POLL: What is the most stupidly overpowered class in daoc

In terms of easy moderness, overpoweredness, bad design which leads for frustating fi

  • Bonedancer

    Votes: 190 20.1%
  • Spirit Master

    Votes: 39 4.1%
  • Warlock

    Votes: 345 36.5%
  • Bainshee

    Votes: 114 12.1%
  • Enchanter

    Votes: 13 1.4%
  • Vampire

    Votes: 55 5.8%
  • Sorceror

    Votes: 116 12.3%
  • Theurgs

    Votes: 16 1.7%
  • Cabbys

    Votes: 11 1.2%
  • Necromancers

    Votes: 45 4.8%

  • Total voters
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eggy

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censi said:
assume enemy numbers are you versus this class.

seems like a less pointless post than most tbh. if you aint interested you dont have to comment rather than just post you think its pointless when like 200 other forum members felt the need to perhaps vote.

People vote before reading the posts, therefore most polls on FH are completely pointless.

Not flaming, just stating - it's a fact of life.

From tonight's action, sorc is definitely near the top of the list.
 

prOx^^

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danmrman said:
Warlocks def are the gay class, the only way u can live against them is being in a duo with a cleric that has DI2 and both instas up. is good that all the lame players play them so they can be killed.

BD's i find are a good class and always find them a challenge to fight, with mez tho its easy to mez pets and drag caster away :)

Banshies: i hate this class uver dmg really fast.

had to vote warloks. hoping after the patch they will be nerfed so they are easier to kill without haivng a cleric. altho the hib base stunn is kinda lame :(


That thing u said about warlocks, you forgott about Heretic. No caster can kill a heretic with rr5 up tbh. even tanks have a hard time against Heretic, when its ml10 banelord, or al classes.
 

eggy

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censi said:
not with you at the helm tbh.

Well I do agree, it's hard for a sorc with no pet and MOC/SOI down to beat you and your stealth groups :)

Had a great day of Sorc-ing yesterday though, some real fun fights, especially late at night against the half-hib groups. Oh and sorry Maeloch :( /hug
 

Jox

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luribeauty said:
says u with a pet at 1am in the morning haha such a wanker try solo noob or can u only do that when u don't have friends online.

When you get attacked by 2 sbs you should;

1. Purge the poisons.
2. Press Remedy.
3. Use Malice/Battler.
4. Use Mezz-Poison.
5. Try to kill one of us.
6. When the Mezz on SB 2 wears of, press DoT-Mine.
7. Almost dead? Press Vanish.

You did nothing of this, instead you garroted me 2-3 times before you died.

Cant say I am impressed of your performance.

But thx for the free realm points, I need them.
 

Gethin

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Imho the Most OP classes are:

1) Bonedancers
2) Enchanters
3) Spiritmasters

Havent fought either of the below but due to the regular whine they are probably up there too.

Cabalist
Sorcerors

All pet\lifetap casters need a serious fix (especially so #1 above).

Yes i have excluded craplocks and bainshees. Craplocks at low RR any killable if u get the jump and have sufficient ML abilities. Bainshees are one of my favourite prey!
 

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eggy said:
Oh and sorry Maeloch :( /hug
Only thing that annoyed me was losing while you were solo. Everything was up, so no excuse, just 1/2 asleep...only had to hit rr5 ffs. Later with ur duo didn't mind so much, onus is on you to win then. I think with the jump it was doable. :).
 

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From a solo sorcs perspective, none of the choices are hard to kill.

Hardest would be charge/det tanks. Without moc or soi up, you're dead in the 15 seconds they're un-ccable. After that, if you can quick-cast a root/mez you're usually ok, but charge is a real problem; often rely upon soi+ml9 pet or moc to deal with them, depending on terrain etc ofc.

Warlocks are tricky depending on position. They'll die in 3 shots if you get the mez and they're slow, but they'll always win if they have any common sense.

Any class can kill a sorc, but with SOI, MOC, lifetaps and a ML9 pet...you can turn a situation around with a few button presses (which is overpowered, imo).
 

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Maeloch said:
Only thing that annoyed me was losing while you were solo. Everything was up, so no excuse, just 1/2 asleep...only had to hit rr5 ffs. Later with ur duo didn't mind so much, onus is on you to win then. I think with the jump it was doable. :).

Yeh, I only duoed at the end of the night because of the 4 hibs running around; couldn't seem to meet them when I had RAs/MLs up, so finished off the evening with Kirrenitic.

Do feel sorry for solo casters though, sorc is a tough opponent to beat, especially RR8+ with all the toys, decent cast speed and damage passives.

Riding horse makes it much easier to target you as well :(
 

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eggy said:
Yeh, I only duoed at the end of the night because of the 4 hibs running around; couldn't seem to meet them when I had RAs/MLs up, so finished off the evening with Kirrenitic.

Do feel sorry for solo casters though, sorc is a tough opponent to beat, especially RR8+ with all the toys, decent cast speed and damage passives.

Riding horse makes it much easier to target you as well :(

agree which is why i cba with rm, if my ns is purged or they see me first, i'm toast :D sorc is indeed a very strong class and i bet a lot of fun.

solo wise its much better on the wl tho, can atleast hold my own vs 3+ oponnents unlike rm where I am eating dirt every run to the nearest charge tank/stun bot.
 

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Arumos said:
solo wise its much better on the wl tho, can atleast hold my own vs 3+ oponnents unlike rm where I am eating dirt every run to the nearest charge tank/stun bot.

The irritating difference is that Warlocks have the ability to 'moc' every fight, as well as unload chambered damage, PBAE etc...as well as lifetap. This makes them near impossible to beat with a sorc, unless you have a stun pet or catch them off-guard/resting/re-doing chambers (the only time I ever kill you!)

Must be easy to kill warlocks with hib casters; if purge is down!

Camping bridges is different to roaming, and I know you have a fetish for Ocassus!! :)
 

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Arumos said:
agree which is why i cba with rm, if my ns is purged or they see me first, i'm toast :D sorc is indeed a very strong class and i bet a lot of fun.

solo wise its much better on the wl tho, can atleast hold my own vs 3+ oponnents unlike rm where I am eating dirt every run to the nearest charge tank/stun bot.

Yeah, why play a fairly balanced class when you can play a warlock?
 

Mirt

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BD's although unkillable 1v1 had a weakness

Banelord > BDs

Watch this space for my Vamp video, got a couple of fights vs Excal's finest BDs (amongst other things).

(I just need BT Wholesale to get their arses in gear and remove the ADSL marker on my phoneline, moving house can be such QQ...)
 

eggy

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rure said:
Yeah, why play a fairly balanced class when you can play a warlock?

Arumos is a skilled player though; combined with a deadly class he gives a lot of reason for changing your pants!

The main thing is that he's having fun, which he evidently is. I don't think he plays warlock to laugh at the hordes of deathblows...think he just likes the playstyle.
 

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it's like using the awp or scout for sniping even when you got the money for either :E
 

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The main thing is that he's having fun, which he evidently is. I don't think he plays warlock to laugh at the hordes of deathblows...think he just likes the playstyle.

i had a run with WL the other night.

But like regardless of how fucked up it is (confirmed by the pole) and the fact thats its played by guys only interested in killing rather than gameplay... OMG its such a boring class, like maybe i could see getting like rr2-3 on one before bordem but like playing it longterm rofl sorry but thats just sad.
 

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The lack of +int in irl templates is strong here. Its obvious that sorc is way better than warlock in all possible ways.

People just dont read patchnotes do they? Wheres the sorc nerf? When is the sorc nerf arriving I wonder?
 

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atos said:
The lack of +int in irl templates is strong here. Its obvious that sorc is way better than warlock in all possible ways.

People just dont read patchnotes do they? Wheres the sorc nerf? When is the sorc nerf arriving I wonder?

In the same patch where they will nerf sm pet intercept for example...
 

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atos said:
The lack of +int in irl templates is strong here. Its obvious that sorc is way better than warlock in all possible ways.

People just dont read patchnotes do they? Wheres the sorc nerf? When is the sorc nerf arriving I wonder?


lol sorc nerf

No sorc get buffed up cause its a weak class :eek7:

They get ns in 1.83.

WL is just a screwed up class the mecanics is all wrong and it should just be removed from game like all Catacomb classes should. none of them is balanced yet and it's been a year, and it doesn't seem like mythic is gonna bother when they make them $ faster by just spamming new expansions. Sad but true :(
 

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censi said:
...like maybe i could see getting like rr2-3 on one before bordem but like playing it longterm rofl sorry but thats just sad.

Because ganking soloers with your PM trio gives so much more satisfaction right?
 

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It seems as if more Hibs and Albs are answerring this poll hehe but never mind that.

For me, a midgard player, with casual rvr expirience, the worst oponents are:

Hibs
Banshee
Eldritch with stunn nuke nuke -> me dead.

Alb
Sorc
Minstrel

beeing in 8 vs. 8 group the worst to encounter ever has been Banshee. I ran with some much more expirienced players i was RR4 and they were RR 6+ and we killed a lot of albs, ........... but when meeting hibs, it was very simple.

If their banshee or their 2 banshees got killed we won, if they did not get killed we were wasted.

So to me the worst char to meet simply is the banshee.

p.s. i normally play my Runemaster or Warrior in RvR. My warlock project stopped at lvl 24 BG1 :D

Best Regards

Von War
 

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censi said:
i had a run with WL the other night.

But like regardless of how fucked up it is (confirmed by the pole) and the fact thats its played by guys only interested in killing rather than gameplay... OMG its such a boring class, like maybe i could see getting like rr2-3 on one before bordem but like playing it longterm rofl sorry but thats just sad.

Did you play a scout called Christel?
 
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