Politics POLL: Brexit Withdrawal Agreement

Discussion in 'The Front Room' started by Wij, Nov 14, 2018.

If you were an MP would you vote for or against it?

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  1. Job

    Job The Carl Pilkington of Freddyshouse

    Luckily it seems we all have.
     
  2. Job

    Job The Carl Pilkington of Freddyshouse

    So..Sinn Fein eh.

    Dabbling with gay EU licking progressive didnt last long.

    Ireland general election: Sinn Féin surges to 22% in exit poll

    Sinn Féin support a policy of "critical engagement with the EU", and have a "principled opposition" to a European superstate. It opposes an EU constitution because it would reduce the sovereignty of the member-state
     
  3. DaGaffer

    DaGaffer Down With That Sorta Thing

    They didn't get traction because of their EU policies, they got votes because of the housing crisis. Irish politics is hyper-local. And Sinn Fein won't be in power anyway, FF/FG won't let it happen.
     
  4. Job

    Job The Carl Pilkington of Freddyshouse

    Very Gaelic.. Irish politics innit.
     
  5. Ormorof

    Ormorof FH is my second home

    What does that even mean @Job makes no sense :)
     
  6. Job

    Job The Carl Pilkington of Freddyshouse

    24.5% of the vote and the highest 2nd preference

    Given the history of Fein...this is very dodgy ground for refusing a coalition.

    Irelands just done a fuxit.
     
  7. Gwadien

    Gwadien Uneducated Northern Cretin

    Literally been told by a guy that actually loves in Ireland that you're chatting shit.

    But you're still preaching.
     
  8. Job

    Job The Carl Pilkington of Freddyshouse

    i know you're determined to pass this off as an inconsequential glitch..it's actually a seismic event.

    Sinn Fein are now the only Irish party with major political influence both north and south of the Irish border, the European Union's new land border with the United Kingdom. Such is the seismic shift in Irish politics that Sinn Fein's demand for a united Ireland will be heard louder.
     
  9. Ormorof

    Ormorof FH is my second home

    United Ireland has seemed inevitable since your lot voted for Brexit ;)

    They only fielded 47 candidates for a possible 160 seats, they will either be part of a coalition or very strong opposition

    Means top 3 parties in Ireland were born out of conflict and civil war rather than the usual two
     
  10. Gwadien

    Gwadien Uneducated Northern Cretin

    Again, I'll trust Gaffer on this more than I trust you.

    I don't believe that the Irish are stupid enough like us to sacrifice Europe's fastest growing economy for some 18th century nationalistic ideals.

    Like we did :)
     
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  11. DaGaffer

    DaGaffer Down With That Sorta Thing

    With a quarter of the popular vote its pretty likely they'll be in government in one coalition or another; MacDonald wants an "everyone but FF/FG" coalition because SF would dominate such a group, but its pretty unlikely she can convince them all to join up, which she'd need for a working majority (some of the independents are too right wing or just ideologically unlikely to deal with SF) so a deal with Fianna Fail is probably the only way to create a "stable" government, but it will be interesting because FF will have the seats (and experience) while SF has the votes. But what it also means is that SF can't write the agenda in relation to the North. In addition, as I said earlier, they've been given votes on the basis of fixing housing and public services, NOT a united Ireland, and that's the yardstick they'll be measured on. People here really don't care that much about a united Ireland, its a nice to have, not a motivator, and if SF go off tilting at windmills instead of fixing what they've promised to fix, any coalition they are in will collapse in short order and SF will be out on their ear. Mary Lou MacDonald is too savvy for that (although she will definitely have to do a better job of keeping some of the major league fuckwits in her party in line), so I'd expect kid gloves in relation to NI for a few years at least. Of course if they do well in government (which I doubt, see the aforementioned fuckwits, some of the people who've just become TDs are dumb as rocks; the bar to being a TD in Ireland is alarmingly low; like 5000 votes low) then yes, SF will be agitating for a border poll sooner rather than later, but to be honest I couldn't care less about that, and let's be blunt, neither could most English people.
     
  12. Wij

    Wij I am a FH squatter FH Subscriber

  13. dysfunction

    dysfunction FH is my second home

  14. Gwadien

    Gwadien Uneducated Northern Cretin

  15. Job

    Job The Carl Pilkington of Freddyshouse

    All the media keeps mentioning his brexit credentials, how Leo failed to capitalise on his brexit diplomacy.
    Who gives a fuck..the little turd just slated the UK , licked the EUs ass and exit polls showed only 1% of people gave a shit about his brexit dealing.
    It was actual issues that he failed miserably on...grandstanding on the world stage means jackshit to the voters.


    Fail are starting to wobble about a Fein coalition.
     
  16. Job

    Job The Carl Pilkington of Freddyshouse

  17. Gwadien

    Gwadien Uneducated Northern Cretin

    Okay let's not talk about the human aspect of this because you won't care unless they're white.

    So.

    Explain to me how it's the responsibility of Jamaica to take on these people after were done with them after they've lived in the UK since they were toddlers.

    Their crimes were a result of experiences in the UK not in Jamaica, or should we just impose our will on Jamaica because we're the British empire?
     
  18. Jupitus

    Jupitus Old and short, no wonder I'm grumpy! Staff member Moderator FH Subscriber

    We can't just Ja-Make-em!! :)
     
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  19. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    I feel you're trying too hard to shoehorn a "she came of her own accord" joke in there m8 ;)
     
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  20. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    It's very clear isn't it?

    If we can legally kick criminals who've lived here since they were 6 months old then why should we give a fuck about how they feel? Just do it - we get rid of a load of fucking criminals.

    Of course, Jamaica gets a load of criminals who don't know anything about Jamaica and it's probably way worse all round. Apart from for Blighty*, because we've gotten rid of loads of criminals that we don't give a shit about.


    Britain (and Job) lacks class. It's clearly and obviously not the "right thing to do". But who gives a fuck about morality eh?

    *ofc, that's still an arguable point.
     
  21. Jupitus

    Jupitus Old and short, no wonder I'm grumpy! Staff member Moderator FH Subscriber

    Russia?
    Nah - let her take her time....
     
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  22. Wij

    Wij I am a FH squatter FH Subscriber

    I say I say I say. I’m going to marry a girl from east Africa.

    Kenya?

    Of course I can. We don’t have racist marriage laws at this point in history.
     
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  23. caLLous

    caLLous I am a FH squatter

    [​IMG]
     
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  24. Job

    Job The Carl Pilkington of Freddyshouse

  25. Job

    Job The Carl Pilkington of Freddyshouse

    You dont go to prison for uninsured speeding inless you have an offence history 3 miles long.
    'I've been ripped from my family': deportee struggles to cope in Jamaica
     
  26. caLLous

    caLLous I am a FH squatter

  27. Job

    Job The Carl Pilkington of Freddyshouse

    Seriously unlikely unless they are omitting the fact it was a high speed pursuit through built up areas that ended on a motorway and even then that length of sentence requires previous
     
  28. Job

    Job The Carl Pilkington of Freddyshouse

    So back to Brexit and now we are leaving suddenly all the EUs redlines evaporate into space and now they are offering a special one off Britain plus.

    Zero tarriff..Zero quota....in return it wants a level playing field, which is very different wording from strict regulation alignment.


    View: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51458697


    Finally reality strikes home....theyve just lost Britain....fucking lol.
    All that fucking remainer bullshit..project fear and self haters.
     
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  29. Wij

    Wij I am a FH squatter FH Subscriber

    You don't understand shit.

    Regulatory alignment was the pre-condition for no regulatory checks at the border. Customs alignment was the pre-condition for no customs checks on the bnorder.

    Regardless of zero tariffs and zero quotas we would have those. That is trade with very heavy friction.

    And, as you say, they will only offer us zero tariff, zero quota if we sign up legally to heavy duty 'level playing field' clauses, which the likes of Canada don't have to sign up to since they are thousands of miles away. The EU hasn't conceded anything you moron.
     

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