Politics POLL: Brexit Withdrawal Agreement

[caLLous]

Funny, that sounds exactly like the deal we hear they're trying to get over the line.

 

[Wij]

Funny, that sounds exactly like the deal we hear they're trying to get over the line.

Yes but now it comes with billions of our money as a bribe

 

[dysfunction]

Now i wonder why an expelled Tory wouldn't back the PM...hmmm....

No 10 struggling to secure Brexit backing of expelled Tory MPs | Brexit | The Guardian

 

[Job]

Parliament has become an excellent advertisment for a dictatorship.

 

[dysfunction]

Parliament has become an excellent advertisment for a dictatorship.

I said that as soon as your mate Boris got into power and you were like.

"Oh no you've been brainwashed by the liberal left...blah blah blah" with your full arsenal of catchphrases.

 

[caLLous]

New IRA says border infrastructure would be ‘legitimate target for attack’

 

[Scouse]

New IRA says border infrastructure would be ‘legitimate target for attack’

Interesting they say anyone who has capitalist interests at heart in the interview, but that line doesn't appear in the transcript.

Anyway - basically they've not said "border infrastructure" they've basically said any person, any country (any EU member) who supports any sort of border in Ireland is fair game.

 

[Job]

So declare war on them.
Seriously terrorists threats are a political tool again.

 

[Scouse]

I'd advise anyone to ignore the above post (and anything subsequent) as an obvious troll.

 

[Wij]

Ahem.

Boris Johnson Brexit deal hits late legal challenge as it breaks legislation from... Jacob Rees-Mogg

 

[Job]

Well we're fucked, the Benn act has fucked us into a corner, handed the entire negotiation on a plate to the EU and if this POS is passed then we will be worse off than before the vote.

Is it too late for a military coup?

 

[Wij]

Sure - blame the Benn act.

 

[Scouse]

Boris Johnson Brexit deal hits late legal challenge as it breaks legislation from... Jacob Rees-Mogg

You repeal the act.

If you can.

General election incoming. If anyone votes for anyone other than greens or the monster raving loony party then you're fools

 

[DaGaffer]

Ahem.

Boris Johnson Brexit deal hits late legal challenge as it breaks legislation from... Jacob Rees-Mogg

The new deal doesn't keep NI in the EU customs union; it keeps it aligned with it. I don't think this challenge would hold up.

Parliament is in a bind now; do they:

vote for the deal thereby giving Johnson a propaganda coup of "fulfilling his promise to leave by Oct 31st"?
vote against the deal, making Johnson go back to the EU for an extension? Which could a. make Johnson weak and a liar, or b. generate sympathy for Johnson who "got a deal" and had it rejected? Since Johnson is already weak and a proven liar, and its done him no harm with his base, it seems like there would be more sentiment for "b" than "a".

Johnson has regained the initiative; make no mistake, the deal is shite (economically it gives Britain less freedom of action than the backstop deal did), and, as I predicted, throws the Unionists under the bus, but an exhausted public never cared about NI anyway, and don't understand that leaving the EU on October 31st is only the start of years of shit, not the end, so quite a few people will give Johnson credit for "getting the job done" if he quickly calls a snap election (he can't wait too long because the economy will be coming apart by the Spring), or better yet, if it doesn't get the votes he can point to an actual deal to vote against (some certainty for the first time in this whole shitshow) whereas Labour and the LibDems are talking new plans, new referendums. How do think that will play out?

 

[Wij]

Johnson: It was hard but we managed to negotiate giving in to what the EU wanted all along:


View: https://twitter.com/MirrorPolitics/status/1184870021861953537

 

[dysfunction]

And yet no progress will be made as it won't get through parliament....again.

 

[DaGaffer]

And yet no progress will be made as it won't get through parliament....again.

As I said earlier, still a win for Johnson.

 

[Job]

Theyre on TV selling it as a win win deal.

Brexiters listen to Farage, its a pile of shit...and obviously has to be ,now we have the Benn act.

The BBC virtual Irish sea border graohics are hilarious..a squiggly line drawn in the sea.

Its form filling and bureaucracy..just like the EU.

 

[Wij]

Theyre on TV selling it as a win win deal.

Brexiters listen to Farage, its a pile of shit...and obviously has to be ,now we have the Benn act.

The BBC virtual Irish sea border graohics are hilarious..a squiggly line drawn in the sea.

Its form filling and bureaucracy..just like the EU.

No brexit is ever brexity enough for the true believer.

 

[Yoni]

Theyre on TV selling it as a win win deal.

Brexiters listen to Farage, its a pile of shit...and obviously has to be ,now we have the Benn act.

The BBC virtual Irish sea border graohics are hilarious..a squiggly line drawn in the sea.

Its form filling and bureaucracy..just like the EU.

but you were so optimistic about bozza Job.

pleaae stop blaming the Benn legislation for Bozza’s deal... you have been repeatedly told that the EU will not compromise the single market or the union... all the Benn deal does is to prevent the UK from crashing out with no deal.

 

[Scouse]

I think Carmeron's choice of the term 'greased piglet' to describe Johnson was, erm, unfortunate

 

[Job]

but you were so optimistic about bozza Job.

pleaae stop blaming the Benn legislation for Bozza’s deal... you have been repeatedly told that the EU will not compromise the single market or the union... all the Benn deal does is to prevent the UK from crashing out with no deal.

Strike you off a negotiation team.

 

[Scouse]

Hold on @Job - we're leaving the EU.

Please explain exactly and precicely A) what you still have objections to and B) why you hold those objections.

 

[Job]

Its The Benn act was a tragic capitulation and has defined our position in Europe for decades.
To even ask for a better deal with that hanging over the proceedings was a joke and has allowed the EU to set demands that put huge pressure on the 'peace' in Ireland.
This from an organisation thats supposed to have brought peace to Europe...which it fucking hasnt, in fact its making it worse in clear sight.
They have put their club before whatever goes for peace in Ireland.

 

[dysfunction]

Its The Benn act was a tragic capitulation and has defined our position in Europe for decades.
To even ask for a better deal with that hanging over the proceedings was a joke and has allowed the EU to set demands that put huge pressure on the 'peace' in Ireland.
This from an organisation thats supposed to have brought peace to Europe...which it fucking hasnt, in fact its making it worse in clear sight.
They have put their club before whatever goes for peace in Ireland.

You should be a politician as you never give a straight answer and flip flop all over the place.

 

[Job]

Well no ones going to let me send the army after the IRA..so we have to deal with them.

 

[Wij]

Strike you off a negotiation team.

View: https://twitter.com/marcuschown/status/1185172794641965058

 

[Deebs]

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

 

[Yoni]

what kind of utter idiot do you have to be to vote for a deal that will decrease income per capita by 2.5% (Mays was 1.7% and WTO 3.3%). From ‘The UK in a changing Europe’

 

[Job]

Those are utterly pie in the sky figures..no one knows.
If they did they'd be a billionaire.