Politics POLL: Brexit Withdrawal Agreement

Discussion in 'The Front Room' started by Wij, Nov 14, 2018.

If you were an MP would you vote for or against it?

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  1. Gwadien

    Gwadien Uneducated Northern Cretin

    You should go back to school.
     
  2. Job

    Job TWAT and FH Object of Ridicule

    I'll ignore Scouses non conventional spelling and wait for your next one.
     
  3. Job

    Job TWAT and FH Object of Ridicule

  4. Job

    Job TWAT and FH Object of Ridicule

    Queenie says steps will be taken to strenghten democracy.


    Supreme court to be bombed.
     
  5. caLLous

    caLLous I am a FH squatter FH Subscriber

    Yawn.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  6. Wij

    Wij I am a FH squatter FH Subscriber

    They're going for voter ID I see. Following the GOP's vote suppression tactics.
     
  7. caLLous

    caLLous I am a FH squatter FH Subscriber

  8. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    We're doing it because Trump has told us to and the tories are cunts.

    Say what you like about Corbyn - he'd be condemning it in a shot. Along with the Israeli apartheid.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  9. Gwadien

    Gwadien Uneducated Northern Cretin

    It's an utter utter disgrace.

    It's not even a political move, it's just a save Trump's face move.
     
  10. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    That's a political move.

    We leave the EU, he'll help out the UK. Maybe. (But I actually doubt it - he'll definitely help out Boris though).
     
  11. DaGaffer

    DaGaffer Down With That Sorta Thing

    Trump has already forgotten who Boris is, and when he's reminded he certainly won't do a damn thing to help Boris unless there's something in it for him.(personally).
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  12. Yoni

    Yoni Cockb@dger / Klotehommel

    These posts make me want to insert a blowjob gif ;(
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  13. Job

    Job TWAT and FH Object of Ridicule

  14. Gwadien

    Gwadien Uneducated Northern Cretin

  15. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    We're worse than Germany (only just tho) when it comes to animal testing.

    It's on the rise in China and level with the 80's in the UK.

    It's because we're not violent enough in our protests tbh. Animal testing is disgusting - especially on primates.
     
    Last edited: Oct 15, 2019
  16. Gwadien

    Gwadien Uneducated Northern Cretin

    You should also see some of the videos vegan activists have taken of animals screaming at abbitoirs etc
     
  17. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    Yeah, but at least animal death for food has more purpose than vanity (cosmetics industry) and more validity than medical testing (because animal models aren't that great, there are alternatives (more expensive) and other ethical issues).

    But yep.
     
  18. Gwadien

    Gwadien Uneducated Northern Cretin

    Vegans would tell you that's a utterly ridiculous argument :p
     
  19. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    I accept the fact that they may indeed be right :)
     
  20. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    • Agree Agree x 1
  21. DaGaffer

    DaGaffer Down With That Sorta Thing

    And they'd be wrong. As they are about many things.
     
  22. Job

    Job TWAT and FH Object of Ridicule

    The Guard mods let this through because they used long words.

    only 18% of people working in music and the performing and visual arts grew up in a working-class household. In publishing ,it’s a pitiful 13%; in film, TV and radio, it’s only 12%.”

    Yet again it very much seems that the industries dominated most by the woke left remain the most snobbish and class exclusive. A surprise to absolutely no one.

    Clicking through on the author’s book link it seems to be about ‘winning the culture war in the age of austerity’. It seems to me that culture warriors and their kulturkampf are the most potent enforcers of bourgeois privilege around; the desultory picture that plays out wherever they have control underscores this.

    It’s doubtful that many of this elite wish more individual working class voices in the media any more than they wished to hear those voices en masse at referendum time. What it wants is a dependent and divided client class who are suitably grateful towards their benevolent leftish patrons. To be blunt, I’m not sure how anyone who has moved outside the establishment-serving echo chambers of the left academy and media world could maintain the spectacular delusion that ‘the culture war’ is intended to benefit the less affluent. It’s consequence is to keep them disorientated, marginalised and compliant.

    For a more egalitarian milieu the author may find the bastions of capitalism more pleasing, though I fear still lacking the feather bedding which may also be sought. These places may lack the bigotry and entitlement of the left run industries, but they’re very much about sinking of swimming based on personal contribution.

    As such, like every other place where work includes responsibilities, pretty much everyone will feel ‘impostor syndrome’ - even if they don’t have the time to write theses on the subject.
     
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  23. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    The guard let it through because the author didn't give them any reason to ban it.

    You got a link to the article?
     
  24. DaGaffer

    DaGaffer Down With That Sorta Thing

    The only people who can afford to work in media when they're starting out are those with an alternative source of income (e.g. parents). Working class kids can't afford to be out of work actors, or even unpaid runners or publishing interns. It was always like this, until a brief period from the seventies until 2008 when poorer kids' parents had a bit more disposable and maybe they could game the benefits system a bit or even borrow at relatively low cost to see them through the first few years, and so slowly there was a rise in working class performers and creatives. Normal service has now been resumed, only its now worse because your careers advisor at Eton tells you not to be a banker but to work in the creative arts dear boy, because its the only place the British have a sustainable advantage.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  25. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    Yup. Would have loved to have worked in the arts but it would have meant homelessness.

    Wage slavery.
     
  26. Gwadien

    Gwadien Uneducated Northern Cretin

    Career advisor at Eton, lol.

    You mean Daddy and his mates?
     
  27. DaGaffer

    DaGaffer Down With That Sorta Thing

  28. Job

    Job TWAT and FH Object of Ridicule

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