Petition for savage dps buff nerf!

Elendar

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Sycho said:
2139ws and hitting mid chain(capped resist ones) 200 or so mainhand without crits(if not diseased) 120-140 offhand, studded=300s mainhand 150s offhand, scale about same, now savages what's your damage like to ours?(rr9 merc and rr9 bm)

I bet it's about 30% or so more...

you where hitting me for 300+ mainhand consistendly pre toa when you had relics (mid chain)
 

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cougar said:
dont they prefer using cs-heroes instead of savage? :(

Nah, that would be 2h axe kobbie warriors with no mob :eek:
Hmm.. why does that sound so familiar...
 

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Elendar said:
you where hitting me for 300+ mainhand consistendly pre toa when you had relics (mid chain)

Well thats funny cause he didn't do it on me, and I wear RF :OD
 

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cougar said:
dont they prefer using cs-heroes instead of savage? :(
pretty sure its LW heros not CS
played a hero other there once, was specced 50LW 50 parry 23 CS...
 

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Elendar said:
you where hitting me for 300+ mainhand consistendly pre toa when you had relics (mid chain)

Yes but i have 2k+ weaponskill a savage doesn't but can outhit zerk/bm/merc.The dps buff makes their base damage go to silly amounts, hit for 950 by a savage today(this is with 812af...) and near same amount earlier at speed cap...then people claiming they aren't overpowered.(without str relics any slash/blades merc/bm hits mid chain for crap damage after disease)

I play mid on excal too, i just would love to see the realm having more of their classes fixed(i.e some speclines boosted like darkness sms, thanes boosted a bit in certain areas, LA boosted by 10% or so damage) and savages put on equal terms with other tanks.
 

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Pfft matt, you'll always suck. :D

This post makes me so glad I quit DAoC though. :p
 

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Ctuchik said:
and that should work how for a shaman as their only tank grps going rvr??

everything works on paper but u still need to THINK!
My point is that skill-spamming means absolutely nothing when talking about how good class A is compared to class B. Shaman getting 60 kill-spams in relic raid shows how overpowered the class is and in need of nerf? Oh, dont just read, think while doing it :m00:
 

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Edlina said:
What's the point in considering your rr2 troll svg as a representative of savages class when you've gained 20k rps on him

And Cougar _is_ representative??
 

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Laston said:
sigh your so sad, you think he learned NOTHING from level 1 to 50? dont you think he should have SOME CLUE on how his class works? or you only learn everything about your class soon your hit rr5? :p


Dont think you get any idea on how the class performs well tweaked RR5+ with buffs and top gea, artifacts and a decent amount of dmg-enhancing RA's while you are levelling it in Malmo (or wherever).

Dont you think the people meeting them everyday in RvR and noticing a savage kills as fast as 2 mercs assisting have a clue ?
 

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Dook said:
You call me ignorant and then go onto assume I've never played a L50 Savage in RvR. Nice. :>

Name of your rr5+ savage then? I'm terribly sorry, but if you leveled one and played it to rr5, you really should include it in your sig..

Dook said:
Oh and OFC your Savage doesn't do good damage, it's rr2 ffs, get it to rr5/6 and then mebbe you can come on FH and whine about your damage without making yourself look like a retard.

Did your virtual penis get bigger now, or do you need your imaginary girlfriend stroking it first?

Whine about my damage? Where do I do that? I'm not expecting to do a lot of dmg as a rr2 savage, therefore I am not disappointed either. I have never said that I base my impression of savages on my own gimpy low-RR savage, if u read my post again you'll (maybe) see that I base my impression of savages on playing lots of rvr as a support class... my point is that some savages do a lot of damage, way more than their competing counterparts in the other realms, but most are not overpowered at all.

Basing your view on savages on the actions of a very small percentage of savages is called generalization - thus I am having problems taking this thread seriously (it's like those "all albs / hibs / <insert guild name here> zerg" threads that were so popular once on BW)

Nerf ppl making biased generalizations imo.
 

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Klonk said:
Whine about my damage? Where do I do that? I'm not expecting to do a lot of dmg as a rr2 savage, therefore I am not disappointed either. I have never said that I base my impression of savages on my own gimpy low-RR savage, if u read my post again you'll (maybe) see that I base my impression of savages on playing lots of rvr as a support class... my point is that some savages do a lot of damage, way more than their competing counterparts in the other realms, but most are not overpowered at all.

Basing your view on savages on the actions of a very small percentage of savages is called generalization - thus I am having problems taking this thread seriously (it's like those "all albs / hibs / <insert guild name here> zerg" threads that were so popular once on BW)

If your playing RvR with Savages in group and not seeing how quickly and easy they kill everything, Then your playing with some bad savages who dont know what to do. Also if your really watching them you shouldnt be, you should be forfilling your role in the group.

And your point that some savages do alot of damage ? ...... Anything from bout R4-5 onwards is in this bracket. Go RvR with your savage until then with Toa stuff and ml etc and then come back and tell us how you feel. Silly I would imagine.

I really wish it was only a 'few' savages that were omg wtf pwn killah's but saddly its pretty much any R5 savage who has a clue how to play a savage.

A shit player makes a Savage looked balanced. A good player makes a Savage a Killing Machine.
 

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Its funny its almost only EU players that think savages are overpowered :)
 

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Vindicator said:
If your playing RvR with Savages in group and not seeing how quickly and easy they kill everything, Then your playing with some bad savages who dont know what to do.

Nah, all rr5+, most or all with high-RR alts too, so not noob players :)

Vindicator said:
Also if your really watching them you shouldnt be, you should be forfilling your role in the group.

Lol, I don't know about you, but as a aug/mend healer I tend to keep an eye on the players in my grp... you CAN do two things at once, you know, spread heal + observe what is going on around you is as easy as chewing gum + taking the elevator ^^

Vindicator said:
And your point that some savages do alot of damage ? ...... Anything from bout R4-5 onwards is in this bracket. Go RvR with your savage until then with Toa stuff and ml etc and then come back and tell us how you feel. Silly I would imagine.

I really wish it was only a 'few' savages that were omg wtf pwn killah's but saddly its pretty much any R5 savage who has a clue how to play a savage.

A shit player makes a Savage looked balanced. A good player makes a Savage a Killing Machine.

I hear what you're saying, but I don't agree. Simple as that :) Sure a rr4 savage could do a lot of damage before "nerf" or "correction" or "bug fix" or whatever u wish to call it, but now they are fine imo. Nothing extraordinary, I would rather have a rr10 zerk (or warrior for that matter) than a rr10 savage. But maybe that's just me :)
 

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Klonk said:
I hear what you're saying, but I don't agree. Simple as that :) Sure a rr4 savage could do a lot of damage before "nerf" or "correction" or "bug fix" or whatever u wish to call it, but now they are fine imo.


Pffft, they would only be fine if their rr4 bm/mercs/zerks counterparts could deal the same damage, fact that sadly atm doesnt happen.

Basic math: either nerf savage damage to merc/bm/zerk status, or hype merc/bm/zerker damage to savages level. :fluffle:
 

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I think my ban on vn is inc now :(

It was worth it, nothings funnier than an American who's being 'patriotic' except for maybe monkies pulling down the kings trousers.
 

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Klonk said:
Did your virtual penis get bigger now, or do you need your imaginary girlfriend stroking it first?

I stopped reading after that.

You're a whiney noob RR2 Savage who's bitter because he can't hit like the higher RR Savages and in your desperation, had to break out the (quite sad) personal insults due to having no argument other than "omg m8s my Savage doesn't hit that hard!!!11".

You say you can see that most aren't overpowered from a support classes view? WTF sort of view is that? You're telling me you can see the damage they do and take on each target? You folow the /assist train now do you? Oh, and it sounds to me like you play with some gimped Savages if you think they're "balanced" tbh.

FO and actually PLAY your Savage somewhere other than in a PvE exping group and then try to defend your class.

Oh, and... nQQb.
 

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Eleasias said:
Klonk is retarded.

Wow, that was an intelligent and reasoned answer. With arguments like that I can't think why I'm not rushing to agree with you.

Dook said:
You're a whiney noob...

...FO...

Oh, and... nQQb.

Ditto.
 

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Garok said:
Savage damage is ofset by the fact their attack stance looks like they are about to do the kind of shit that killed Elvis ;X

Ballad said:
Almost made me laugh.

I thought it was fucking hilarious!! xD
 

p0x

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Can see this thread is fucked up when frs's posts make more sense than 90% of the replies here :/
 

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Lol...just because those that play high rr-savages with toa gear hit hard then nerf, nerf, nerf....and that 4.4 speed weapon people whine about its for sale in every haven in ToA...its very common and every savage that leaves mpkE has at least 3.... :rolleyes:
 

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Marcus75 said:
its very common and every savage that leaves mpkE has at least 3.... :rolleyes:

Yes, in fact Savages have 3 arms and can swing all 3 at once, too. That's before we take off and nuke the site from orbit.
 

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Marcus75 said:
Lol...just because those that play high rr-savages with toa gear hit hard then nerf, nerf, nerf....and that 4.4 speed weapon people whine about its for sale in every haven in ToA...its very common and every savage that leaves mpkE has at least 3.... :rolleyes:


Savage with SI equipment is overpowered too, no need to be ToA'ed
 

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