Petition for savage dps buff nerf!

[Ormorof]

I will admit that I dont know much of other light tanks merc and bm, but I want to point out that its not normal to hit for 500 with main!

unless you are like RR7+ which is all that people show pictures off

show me a picture of an rr2 hitting for 500-700 mainhand (consistently, ie not just one hit but lots of times in a row ) and i might change my mind

 

[p0x]

Check the vn thread DD

"Blademaster is superior to the savage, Unless you think wasting hp on a slash weak character with no way to snare is somehow awesome.

As for the whole Euro player/american player comments, Don't make me laugh... Anyone who's seen Dem hibbies video will laugh at the stupidity of Euro Players.

I mean christ, half you tards run all savage groups on those servers."

DDDD

 

[Edlina]

unless you are like RR7+ which is all that people show pictures off

show me a picture of an rr2 hitting for 500-700 mainhand (consistently, ie not just one hit but lots of times in a row ) and i might change my mind

Show me a picture of a rr7+ bm hitting for 500-700 dmg mainhand.... Just 1 picture...

T.T

 

[p0x]

Show me a picture of a rr7+ bm hitting for 500-700 dmg mainhand.... Just 1 picture...

T.T

I did over 600 with Supernova cap + ~45% crit + essence flames proc

 

[Sycho]

I did over 600 with Supernova cap + ~45% crit + essence flames proc

How much your bm hitting with battler/malice and what ws?

 

[p0x]

How much your bm hitting with battler/malice and what ws?

using event weapon, not malice oO 2068 wskill or smth
500 on zerach (dunno why), 350 on other savages, 250-300 in general, 4 on paladins

 

[Sycho]

using event weapon, not malice oO 2068 wskill or smth
500 on zerach (dunno why), 350 on other savages, 250-300 in general, 4 on paladins

2139ws and hitting mid chain(capped resist ones) 200 or so mainhand without crits(if not diseased) 120-140 offhand, studded=300s mainhand 150s offhand, scale about same, now savages what's your damage like to ours?(rr9 merc and rr9 bm)

I bet it's about 30% or so more...

 

[remi]

cougar sawk

 

[Equendil]

I think someone should post that petition on the savage board

http://vnboards.ign.com/Savage_Forum/b22323/

Got my account banned, but that could be fun to watch.

 

[Damon_D]

So only 0.01% of Savages hit harder than your average Tank? Hardly.

I'll just rephrase your post for you:

"I'm a Mid, I don't want Savages nerfed because I have one/I'm thinking of rolling one/Midgard deserves this blatantly overpowered class. In a sad attempt to stop the Savages of Midgard being nerfed, I will claim that 0.01% of all Savages do good damage."

Nerf Savages, hard.

HEHE yeah plz destroy the class for anyone not rr8+ ... I'm happy , ecstatic even , if my savage hit's half as hard as on that screenshot , and he is rr3l4... But yeah lvl to 50 , getting kited out in ToA gear is not enough of a time sink , lets make it so that if your char is not atleast rr8 you will suck monkeyballz.....

 

[Dreami]

cougar sawk

Boom got shields down t_t good to compare

 

[yaruar]

Pfft, you have no clue what you're whining about.

Why don't we nerf your blatantly overpowered 15-kills-in-3 seconds Hib casters hard, then, as well? I note you conveniently forgot to read or comprehend that bit. Don't you think that's overpowered?

"Sad" is a whiner still whining even after the object of their whines has been nerfed.

Zerks were overpowered before the LA nerf, Savages have already been nerfed, they don't need any more nerfing, case closed. Find something else to cry about.

Everyone complains that an assist train of savages can kill a person in 3 seconds..... Like the man says no one calls for daily nerfs of casters because they can pbaoe 20+ people to death in less time than it takes for any meelee class to draw their weapons..... I got hit for 800 by one nuke last night even with full sc resists... And that was long range.......

 

[Herjulf]

Have a check as this thread, this is how overpowered they perform vs mobs in PVE.

https://forums.freddyshouse.com/showthread.php?t=15982

phear them!!!

 

[Jaem-]

no pic and link don't work ;<

 

[Derric]

Have a check as this thread, this is how overpowered they perform vs mobs in PVE.

https://forums.freddyshouse.com/showthread.php?t=15982

phear them!!!

Enemy: Anathemic Salamander

Don't be silly.

 

[Eroa]

Have a check as this thread, this is how overpowered they perform vs mobs in PVE.

https://forums.freddyshouse.com/showthread.php?t=15982

phear them!!!

Who cares how they perform in PvE when they on regular basis are able to kill casters in 1-2 swings with a spd of 1,5sec swing.

 

[Herjulf]

no pic and link don't work ;<

yes it work but the damn host have annoying rules.
You may have to copy url and paste and hit enter.

Enemy: Anathemic Salamander

Don't be silly.

is it much to ask not to be outdamaged by a kobold shaman buffbot w. 91% qual 15.6dps weapon. with only a AF buff? Whilst savage have 50hth+11+rr and MOA3+TOA(+buff) red shaman buffs.

It f00king shouldnt be. ppl whining over savages being able to quad like with a 2% chance, still have to work in a assist train, and use some sort of skill grp wise.
still takes work, and awarness for that, a chanter grp can take out a zerg in seconds, a well rounded assist grp can handle itself well to but it isnt the "overpowered" savage there, it is well working together people who crush random grps, those will always perform better then the everage joe.

Savage is broken imo, it perform well in rvr if it have high realmrank etc, but imo low realm ranked it´s missrate and dmg output isnt impressive.
0 hits out of 800+ attacks.. on a PvE mob. outdamaged by a kobold shaman buffbot..

 

[remi]

Boom got shields down t_t good to compare

who cares? cougar hits cap on his gimp BB as do I , its the cap you should look at.

 

[Ctuchik]

Just listed the main DoTters of all realms - cast one AE DoT and hope the PBAErs have took 90% of targets HPs, finishing them and getting the spam shoudn't be too hard

and that should work how for a shaman as their only tank grps going rvr??

everything works on paper but u still need to THINK!

 

[nick]

qq remi

 

[Ballad]

LA was overpowered pre nerf hell yeah. but nothing compared to the savage dmg.

A savage today is 50 times more effective killing machine than a Pre nerf zerk.

And the pigs fly.

 

[Shike]

But you'll get str/con buff-stripped by shamans, and then you'll still get 2 shot quad or no quad.

then we'll just have to kill the bloody shaman wont we? (yea i know what u mean, 1.69 will be kinda... funky for mids)

 

[Klonk]

So only 0.01% of Savages hit harder than your average Tank? Hardly.

I'll just rephrase your post for you:

"I'm a Mid, I don't want Savages nerfed because I have one/I'm thinking of rolling one/Midgard deserves this blatantly overpowered class. In a sad attempt to stop the Savages of Midgard being nerfed, I will claim that 0.01% of all Savages do good damage."

Nerf Savages, hard.

You, my good man, are at best ignorant, at worst very stupid, I don't care to guess..

1) Play a savage before whine about them pls, you can borrow my fully SC'ed rr2 lvl 50 troll h2h savage, if u are impressed by his damage, you are easily impressed..
2) Why do you ignore the valid points made by Svartmetall in his post? Oh, wait, it's because you prefer whine before a decent discussion

Bitteliten, Garbannoch, etc are the caster equivalent to SOME mid savages that indeed owned most of their unlucky targets (read: Jack Herer - Nolby, who gets most of the whine, mostly use from zero to one savage in their grps, they have high rr zerkers, who do at least the same damage - even after LA nerf). So if Dem Hibbies wipe out armies, and JH did the same when they were active, only whiners and/or morons could argue that they are representative for the class as a whole. But hey, it's your choice, maybe that's what you want to be?

 

[Dorin]

You, my good man, are at best ignorant, at worst very stupid, I don't care to guess..

1) Play a savage before whine about them pls, you can borrow my fully SC'ed rr2 lvl 50 troll h2h savage, if u are impressed by his damage, you are easily impressed..
2) Why do you ignore the valid points made by Svartmetall in his post? Oh, wait, it's because you prefer whine before a decent discussion

Bitteliten, Garbannoch, etc are the caster equivalent to SOME mid savages that indeed owned most of their unlucky targets (read: Jack Herer - Nolby, who gets most of the whine, mostly use from zero to one savage in their grps, they have high rr zerkers, who do at least the same damage - even after LA nerf). So if Dem Hibbies wipe out armies, and JH did the same when they were active, only whiners and/or morons could argue that they are representative for the class as a whole. But hey, it's your choice, maybe that's what you want to be?

i cant 2 shot ppl either :< ffs

 

[Klonk]

LA was overpowered pre nerf hell yeah. but nothing compared to the savage dmg.

A savage today is 50 times more effective killing machine than a Pre nerf zerk.

You got rr2 savage wtf do u know? )

First; lol to your statement that a post-nerf savage is 50 times better than a pre-nerf zerk Did you play much rvr before LA nerf?

Second; I also have a rr2 savage, but I know a lot about savages and mid rvr nevertheless, wanna know why? I got a rr5 warrior and a rr6 healer, which means I play with savages and zerkers all day (at least before TOA ) If savages are so much better than zerkers, how come the "best" or most eager mid rvr guilds are using more zerkers than savages? I can tell you, if savages were so good that you think, we'd never loose. And we do. Q.E.D.

try play anything than mid and get hit by those truckers that can 3-4 shot a paladin (with luck maybe, but still FUCKED UP)

With luck, and rr10 ^^ Much has been said about this already, so I won't comment further on this, has spammed too much already. Are you all thinking: "we loose to savages, and the reason must be they are overpowered!" ?? Maybe some honest evaluation of self could reveal other reasons contributing to that result...

 

[Dook]

You, my good man, are at best ignorant, at worst very stupid, I don't care to guess..

1) Play a savage before whine about them pls, you can borrow my fully SC'ed rr2 lvl 50 troll h2h savage, if u are impressed by his damage, you are easily impressed..
2) Why do you ignore the valid points made by Svartmetall in his post? Oh, wait, it's because you prefer whine before a decent discussion

Bitteliten, Garbannoch, etc are the caster equivalent to SOME mid savages that indeed owned most of their unlucky targets (read: Jack Herer - Nolby, who gets most of the whine, mostly use from zero to one savage in their grps, they have high rr zerkers, who do at least the same damage - even after LA nerf). So if Dem Hibbies wipe out armies, and JH did the same when they were active, only whiners and/or morons could argue that they are representative for the class as a whole. But hey, it's your choice, maybe that's what you want to be?

You call me ignorant and then go onto assume I've never played a L50 Savage in RvR. Nice. :>

Svartmeall doesn't have any valid points, if he had some I'd take note of them.

Oh and OFC your Savage doesn't do good damage, it's rr2 ffs, get it to rr5/6 and then mebbe you can come on FH and whine about your damage without making yourself look like a retard. Did you bother to read anything in this thread or jump straight into random flame about something you obviously know next to nothing about.

Your Savage is a Troll and it's rr2. Enough said.

nQQb.

 

[Garok]

Savage damage is ofset by the fact their attack stance looks like they are about to do the kind of shit that killed Elvis ;X

 

[Edlina]

You, my good man, are at best ignorant, at worst very stupid, I don't care to guess..

1) Play a savage before whine about them pls, you can borrow my fully SC'ed rr2 lvl 50 troll h2h savage, if u are impressed by his damage, you are easily impressed..
2) Why do you ignore the valid points made by Svartmetall in his post? Oh, wait, it's because you prefer whine before a decent discussion

Bitteliten, Garbannoch, etc are the caster equivalent to SOME mid savages that indeed owned most of their unlucky targets (read: Jack Herer - Nolby, who gets most of the whine, mostly use from zero to one savage in their grps, they have high rr zerkers, who do at least the same damage - even after LA nerf). So if Dem Hibbies wipe out armies, and JH did the same when they were active, only whiners and/or morons could argue that they are representative for the class as a whole. But hey, it's your choice, maybe that's what you want to be?

What's the point in considering your rr2 troll svg as a representative of savages class when you've gained 20k rps on him, grats on that great achivement, but it's not you he's gonna meet in active RvR, is it?

 

[Ballad]

Savage damage is ofset by the fact their attack stance looks like they are about to do the kind of shit that killed Elvis ;X

Almost made me laugh.

 

[cougar]

ty pox.