Paris shootings

[Embattle]

I see the police officer killed was a Muslim.

 

[Gwadien]

So right, that Police officer was a muslim, if she was in Paris, she may have known & been friends with the Police Officer that was killed, so the stupid nationalist response is to fucking kill a person that obviously cares about her community and wanted to be a Police Officer.

I don't know what's worse, Extremist Islam, or Nationalism.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Best leave this rather sensible discussion now and go play some games as i think it's about to explode in about an hour when the "intelligent" people get in

 

[Job]

Well it is or it isn't...putting it in brackets (that aren't) doesn't make any difference.

According to the 2011 census 4.4% of the population of the UK are Muslim, probably half that actually practice it.

Muslims can be from any race. Probably most of those funny brown people you dislike so much are actually Hindus.

Asians and British born Asians 7.8% and black 3.5%

Your numbers don't even come close to adding up.

I was referring to France.

 

[Raven]

I was referring to France.

Ah, where it is 10% Muslim with only around 36% of that 10% population claiming to be observant? Or are you talking ethnic minorities. The French don't collect ethnic information so if you are talking about dirty foreigners I have no idea where you are getting your figures from.

 

[Mabs]

Gunmen now in the area of our head office in France.... Sorry but I will not accept this kind of bloodshed is the fault of religion and tbh I am quite sick of hearing this as a reason to kill people. Again I have many close Muslim friends who are outraged by this crap. Have you any idea what their lives become after wankers like this decide to go on a rampage?? Unlike Catholics during the crap IRA years peaceful Muslims can be easily identified and harassed / bullied / hurt and god forbid killed as a backlash to this nonsense... I have no other words for these extremists except fucking retards as this level of violence does absolutely fuck all to help their 'cause'

and thats the point
they attack the office, ordinary people attack muslims , "OMG MUSLIMS PERSECUTED, JOIN OUR JIHAD".. they get half a dozen new fuckwits to join.. its a net gain

 

[Scouse]

Sorry but I will not accept this kind of bloodshed is the fault of religion

"Alluh Ackbar" they said as they shot the cop.

It's not the 'fault' of religion - but the religion provides them their "moral justification" in their eyes. And if you look at the link I provided earlier - it's people who feel morally justified who go around murdering like this.

You don't see extreme atheists going around killing people because satirists drew cartoons about their non-beliefs - because they don't hold any beliefs to get upset about.

Twisted or not - Islam is absolutely fundamentally intertwined with this. Just because you can point at peaceful muslims means jack shit.

 

[Scouse]

And the backlash people generalising muslims are just as bad of an influence as the extremists on the whole west vs muslim issue. "We" bomb them, "they" get angry and extremists do stuff back, we use brush on everyone of same beardcolor, more people angry, more extremists, more retaliation, more brushes, moronum repeatum infinitum.

Finally. You're starting to agree with me

 

[Scouse]

I don't know what's worse, Extremist Islam, or Nationalism.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YhRS9BUUgw


Shame we, as a society, are turning away from science and turning back to magic and mysticism. Carl'd be spinning in his grave at these events...

 

[Billargh]

Scouse vs Freddyshouse

He's become the new Tohtori.

 

[Raven]

Now now, that's quite a stretch. He doesn't end up arguing with himself, just relentless bollocks.

 

[Scouse]

Don't shoot me.

 

[Scouse]

@Yoni - look at this - it's about the cartoons in denmark and the concomitant violence and capitulation - and tell me it's not religion.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZZ96SArpuc

 

[Job]

The truth doesnt matter..if people feel threatened they will turn on every part of Islam and guilty by association will be the norm..Sarkosvy said tonight it is a war against civilisation..the first politician to admit this is civilisations at war..its gonna get all Lord of the Rings.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Finally. You're starting to agree with me

Not agreeing with you, we just happen to agree on something

He's become the new Tohtori.

He does have the potential, but his emotions are clouding it. He would require years of training, but he could get there if he would have the discipline.

 

[old.Tohtori]

You don't see extreme atheists going around killing people because satirists drew cartoons about their non-beliefs - because they don't hold any beliefs to get upset about.

Twisted or not - Islam is absolutely fundamentally intertwined with this. Just because you can point at peaceful muslims means jack shit.

Not over cartoons, but plenty of other stuff just as ridicilous(as mentioned before). I'm not saying religion is a good reason, i'm saying there isn't a reason at all to go around killing people and the killing is the problem, not the justification.

Just wanted to clarify that, not getting into it that much.

 

[Scouse]

Not over cartoons, but plenty of other stuff just as ridicilous(as mentioned before)

Really - you see groups of atheists killing people because of what common ideal exactly?

 

[old.Tohtori]

Really - you see groups of atheists killing people because of what common ideal exactly?

As said in the post "equally ridicilous stuff". Be it money, notoriety, love, lust, jobloss, etc. This doesn't just include atheists, but everyone.

But since you facepalmed me, i guess you think that killing people is ok for some reason.

 

[Scouse]

As said in the post "equally ridicilous stuff". Be it money, notoriety, love, lust, jobloss, etc. This doesn't just include atheists, but everyone.

I said groups of atheists and common ideal.

Go on. Answer the question.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Actually you originally said "extremist atheists over cartoons". You added the group and common ideal only after you realised you couldn't get away by saying "Yeah, other murderers are equally stupid".

EDIT: And just to make you stop being silly, the same answer i gave you above also applies to your "newly found meaning".

 

[Raven]

...and the wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round.

 

[Bodhi]

Really - you see groups of atheists killing people because of what common ideal exactly?

Communism.

 

[Raven]

...and the wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round.

 

[BloodOmen]

I see the police officer killed was a Muslim.

Yup, pretty much undermines the Gunmen's claims they were doing the prophets work when they kill a Muslim, they fucked up there, royally.

 

[Yoni]

@Yoni - look at this - it's about the cartoons in denmark and the concomitant violence and capitulation - and tell me it's not religion.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZZ96SArpuc

@Scouse I'm not interested in your view on any topic containing religion so not getting into it with you its a waste of energy.

 

[Yoni]

Double post

 

[Raven]

Double post fever. Fix it @Deebs You're our only hope!

 

[old.user4556]

Whenever I read stuff about "respect Islam" and "it's not all muslims" and "if it wasn't for the west's aggression" when the bodies aren't even cold, it makes me want to do this:

 

[Gwadien]

Whenever I read stuff about "respect Islam" and "it's not all muslims" and "if it wasn't for the west's aggression" when the bodies aren't even cold, it makes me want to do this:

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I agree, but frankly, when you've got one side knee-jerk attacking random muslims, it's hard to ignore the elephant in the room.

 

[Job]

Over on reddito..which is surprisingly quiet, a muslim posted that they are taught to love mohammed more than themselves, which is scary shit and the very basis of a cult...if Islam was just around 50,000 people we would round them up and shoot them.