New FOTM group? alb?(partially a joke)

[old.Niljindil]

Sorc, cc speced.
Mincer, 50 inst.
Spirit/body cabalist, will be debuffing spirit.
4 clerics 44 smite 30 rej
1 cleric 35 smite 40 enhance.
2 50 enhance buffbots.

176 3 sec cast time DD on 43 smite, uber cast time thanks to buffbots, and ubar damage cuz of assisting the cabby(63% spirit resistance debuff).

And as for the goodies.
BoF x5
Single insta x 4
group insta x 4
spreadheal healer x4
basically everyone in the group can do damage in some form.
sos x1

How about it, could work, no?

Edit: And yes, i realize that losing the mez war would KILL this group, but seeing as there as such HUGE defensive capabilities and still lots of offense that would still be an interesting scenario

 

[Rg.Roller]

zero determination characters hope you get the mezz in first

 

[vintervargen]

as long as purge is up,, why not

 

[old.Niljindil]

OOooh, totally forgot that 7/8 chars in that group can get MoC

 

[zoia]

That group would get pwned by this group:

1 healer for ae stun
1 skald for speed (me)
6 thanes
enough bots to fully buff group
Oh, maybe change one thane for a live shammy(end regen)


Of course, all thanes would need MCL 2 or higher to actually kill something before going OOM. Talking about post 1.65 here.
(thanes are getting MCL in 1.65, right?)

 

[BlitheringIdiot]

No, I think mythic just give thme a lollypop or something in 1.65 and tell them to shut the hell up.

"remodellnig stormcalling" my arse.

 

[shatar]

I belive they get mcl yes.
Lollypop. LoL. Gifv lollypops!!!! <---- best smiley and must be used in every post, where apropriate.
Interesting idea, but no thx.
1 mincer.
1 cc sorc.
3 merc.
2 clerics, spread heal and some other shiz.
1 paly, end and slam and guard.

Ofcourse you are to have BB's at tk.

 

[Asha]

haha

 

[Tilda]

One problem, caster debuff dont work for noncaster classes.

So spirit debuff is good for therugs but not cleric or necros.

Tilda

 

[Ravenbourne]

but does it fit into the zerg????

 

[iluvatur]

wtf you mean it doesnt work for non-caster classes??? cerdin debuffed for my smite cleric and i hit for loads ><

 

[zoia]

Originally posted by Ravenbourne
but does it fit into the zerg????

Imagine a zerg of thanes......
Ooooh, it would be grand!

 

[iluvatur]

my computer... dieing..... some one .... (goes link dead and comp crashes)

 

[Pin]

I'll stick with our group from tonight, with 2/3 air theurgs, 1 spirit cabby and my sorc, thanks

 

[BlitheringIdiot]

Originally posted by Pin
I'll stick with our group from tonight, with 2/3 air theurgs, 1 spirit cabby and my sorc, thanks

Was that the SS group in hadrians today?

You were frighteningly good.

 

[old.Niljindil]

Originally posted by Tilda
One problem, caster debuff dont work for noncaster classes.

So spirit debuff is good for therugs but not cleric or necros.

Tilda

It does work for everyone, youre thinking about acuity buffs.

 

[iluvatur]

yeh me too

 

[Tilda]

Originally posted by old.Niljindil
It does work for everyone, youre thinking about acuity buffs.

Nope, it dosnt work for necro's im sure of that.
And im 99% sure that someone had tested it and found it didnt work for non cloth casters either.

Tilda

 

[hotrat]

Heh not a bad idea very good defensive group, but like ppl say weak to mezz, and very reliant on spirit debuff to actually kill stuff without going oop too quick
I would maybe get a second spirit caba, they can also debuff body for the sorc as well, and the pet is nice

 

[old.shotgunstow]

Originally posted by Tilda
One problem, caster debuff dont work for noncaster classes.

So spirit debuff is good for therugs but not cleric or necros.

Tilda

Damn you beat me to it

 

[Asha]

I think it does work for smite clerics? Not sure too... what is smite again?


edit: naw paci said it doesn't work for cleric and necro

 

[Belomar]

Interesting group, but like Pin said, we currently like our theurg-based debuffing caster group. Our last run, we had 3 air theurgs, almost a joke the kind of damage you can output then. (But yes, as with any caster group, mezz is a problem -- but they're so much fun!)

Also, as for the debuff not working for necros and clerics, yes, that's correct, but it has nothing to do with clerics not being cloth casters (necros are, k?) -- it's a bug, plain and simple. Minstrels can make use of the body debuff, so why should not clerics and necros be able to use the spirit debuff?

 

[Belomar]

Originally posted by BlitheringIdiot
Was that the SS group in hadrians today?

You were frighteningly good.

Yes, that was us. Roamed in HW for about 3 hours and lost exactly one fight, and this against overwhelming numbers that would have been okay if we had won the mezz war. I know for a fact that one of our theurgs was running with a constant hard-on due to the damage he was doing when nuking debuffed targets.

Oh, and thanks.

 

[old.Odysseus]

Sigh I find myself pondering getting my hands on a warrior and smacking the hell out of any theurgist i see - but then i switch my brain on and consider the odds

 

[Sharp Thing]

Originally posted by Tilda
One problem, caster debuff dont work for noncaster classes.

So spirit debuff is good for therugs but not cleric or necros.

Tilda

how can it not work for certain classes. it looks at the damage type a certain class does, not the class itself. for a necro that could be different since its not you who is casting, but your pet, and pets have a different ruleset etc

 

[Javai]

It definitely does not work on clerics, necros or indeed Reaver spirit based spells. I tested it, it works fine for Theurg and also for Sorc body spells (using Body debuff obviously)

 

[xevius]

Originally posted by Belomar
Yes, that was us. Roamed in HW for about 3 hours and lost exactly one fight, and this against overwhelming numbers that would have been okay if we had won the mezz war. I know for a fact that one of our theurgs was running with a constant hard-on due to the damage he was doing when nuking debuffed targets.

Oh, and thanks.

Hey.................. I told you that in confidence. :uhoh:
anyway, ultimate alb caster grp, IMO.

Sorc
Mincer
Pally
3xAir theurgist
Spirit cabby
Cleric
=
wtfpwn :mgwhore:

 

[Weeping Willow]

Originally posted by Belomar
Yes, that was us. Roamed in HW for about 3 hours and lost exactly one fight, and this against overwhelming numbers that would have been okay if we had won the mezz war. I know for a fact that one of our theurgs was running with a constant hard-on due to the damage he was doing when nuking debuffed targets.

Oh, and thanks.

How many good guildgroups did you meet?

 

[Lumikki]

Fun idea but the group itself suck

xx

 

[xevius]

Originally posted by aginamist
How many good guildgroups did you meet?

As many as NP meet daily while roaming Emain with there wtfpwn savage grps.