Nerf Mid please...

[sauna-]

Originally posted by schinkaar
I assure you 4 bm:s is fast dmg output, stormrider do around 400/round on me. I dont know his attackspd, nor gear and i dont have any facts to back it up. Its just my personal experience. but id say 4 BM:s = 2 svges +1 zerk dmg wise? As no one really seem to know shit about svges i think my guess is as good as anyones.

I dont get why you just state that its useless tho. Tbh i have no idea if ur good or not, you make a million assumptions about everything, base almost nothing on facts, act as if u knew everything there is to know and your only motive seems to be to whine. And with you i reffer to the majority of the bw community.

Think you have enuff there to produce a few more pages of fun reading .

I think you just used up a month's worth of fun in that post, so won't bother .

 

[infozwerg]

tbh no midgard nerf wont make up for the lousy albs on excalibur.

FC are good?

- rr10 friar that cant move and turn at the same time and puts it on video

- sorc that tries to qc mezz chargin tanks, as a rule doesnt turn camera while running away, goes oop nuking tanks and puts it on video

- rr8 mercenary using two jambyia

- konah

Any other good alb guilds/groups?

- GoL

- BF usually runs with 4 2h armsmen

- Herfolge are casual zergers

- i dont even know any other albion guilds from playing against them

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by sorusi
whats your 1h weaponskill, apparently this affects your guard/block rate, whatever weaponskill you have with mainhand.. so if you have 6blades + 16 or so, you wont block that much i noticed this on my warrior, when guarding my blocks increased ALOT after going from +1sword to +11 in equimpent

your spec in 1h affects your slamming, not your blocking.

 

[Asha]

Hey ! We only have ONE 2h arms :doh: And it's gunner so stfu.

We're always very happy to see you in NP group tho. :great:

 

[sauna-]

Originally posted by tildson
Yeah, much easier to be successful as mid with 3spreadhealers :/ And i also HATE, when albs are sosing away, start bashing a tank for 30-40dmg feels wrong. And yes, those fights usually last very long - which is very fun hopefully the 1.65 will balance the savages some, atm its not right 2shotting bards and stuff. But hey, every patch has its fotm

Yup I'm naive and gullible so I hope for future patches and more equal fights amongst all realms no matter if you're uberopted or not, every group deserves to win if they play well together or at least get an even and cool fight which you'll remember .

 

[infozwerg]

i cant remember being in an NP group more than once or twice since i stopped playing prydwen

 

[Asha]

I can't remember seeing you in either more than once or twice but we were happy still

Always happy to see estat.

 

[Pandemic]

Originally posted by old.XanateA
Okay... I play mid. I play in the best guild.
Im so sick of not being able to loose a FG fight... there is no fucking challenge on excalibur anymore... not when it comes to FG fights. Albs do not make balanced groups with good players... not even guild groups.

Last night i saw the total of 0 alb RvR guilds. I saw one group of LA... but even if they play well they stand a minimal chance of winning vs us even if we play equally good.
Got 100k rp or so in 7-8h RvR... and most of it came from killing mindless Warder zerg albs... how fun is that?!?? ((

So nerf the shit out of savages and remove ASD from healers and the fights might be more challenging.
And ppl get less things to whine on... the amount of mid groups out in emain will decrease... cuz there is not many groups who play good and win because of that and not because of the savages doing lots of dmg.

Am i the only mid who wants the realm to be nerfed abit so winning in RvR is decided on experience, teamwork , skill and high RR and not better classes?

just dont nerf warriors. or at least me. i been rvring since way back in the day when finister was a lowbie alb and i am still only only rr7.
i think somewhere it all went badly wrong for me

 

[exe]

Originally posted by Pin
your spec in 1h affects your slamming, not your blocking.

Affects blocking as well, blocker 1h ws vs attacker wsOo

 

[infozwerg]

Originally posted by Asha
I can't remember seeing you in either more than once or twice but we were happy still

Always happy to see estat.

you made a old norse fell all warm and fuzzy by saying that

 

[old.arneduck]

Originally posted by sorusi
whats your 1h weaponskill, apparently this affects your guard/block rate, whatever weaponskill you have with mainhand.. so if you have 6blades + 16 or so, you wont block that much i noticed this on my warrior, when guarding my blocks increased ALOT after going from +1sword to +11 in equimpent

i am aware of this, and im specced 28 pierce.
i need, however, get more + bonus to pierce on my next SC set, but dont really have the dough atm to get a full MP set of scale

 

[benknuser]

Ehm, savage's are nerfed....so you just gotta wait for 1.65 to be happy i guess.

 

[Asha]

Re: Re: Nerf Mid please...

Originally posted by Pandemic
i think somewhere it all went badly wrong for me

maybe here: Armourcrafter 1162
and here: Tailor 1159

rr ain't all

 

[hotrat]

Originally posted by infozwerg
tbh no midgard nerf wont make up for the lousy albs on excalibur.

FC are good?

- rr10 friar that cant move and turn at the same time and puts it on video

- sorc that tries to qc mezz chargin tanks, as a rule doesnt turn camera while running away, goes oop nuking tanks and puts it on video

- rr8 mercenary using two jambyia

- konah

Any other good alb guilds/groups?

- GoL

- BF usually runs with 4 2h armsmen

- Herfolge are casual zergers

- i dont even know any other albion guilds from playing against them

I read the first point and thought this was a serious post, but then got to the sorc and thought well that ain't me maybe another sorc vid, then I read BF usually run with 4 2h arms and I know its a joke post, very funny mate

In my vid I qc mezz only when tanks are hitting me, not at all in the first fight, nor in the second, nor in the third, at the fight at mmg vs mids I use it on 2 savage and 1 zerker hitting me and in the last fight I use it on the BM's all hitting me. I also turn the camera everytime I run from a tank. I did go oop in the first fight, but the only tank i nuked was a luri hero (when the fight was pretty much ours), and I had a power crystal ready and mcl ready in 20 secs.
So basically you can't be talking about my video

 

[K0nah]

Originally posted by Asha
Always happy to see estat.

yeh it means its the NP B-team.

free rps

 

[Ialkarn]

Originally posted by Pin
your spec in 1h affects your slamming, not your blocking.

so wrong

 

[zapzap]

Can we swap albs from excal to prydwen plz
Maybe a bit less of them.


Zapsi

 

[marchegiani]

Originally posted by Ialkarn
so wrong

http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=56572409

 

[Ialkarn]

Originally posted by marchegiani
http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=56572409

I sugest you to play the game more and read the USA boards less.

Ws dosen't affect the block rate? you can test it yourself:
fight a Sb being Str/con debuffed and not,
and tell me if your block rate 'll be the same.

That is the reason why Warriors blocks more than armsmen whit same spec,cause their WS is higher.


In what terms WS affect the block/parry/evade rate I don't know,
but on my eyes it' cleary it does.

That is the reason why Warriors blocks more than armsmen whit same spec,cause their WS is higher.

I would be curious to know if a trolls blocks more than a norse or not
-------->if dex it's more important than ws or not.

 

[old.Thanatlos]

The one reason (perhaps not the only one) mids currently > most other groups is ASD.
If you cannot see the value in having an insta-cast spammable interrupt on the most common class in mid groups (usually equal or greater than the amount of healing classes in enemy groups) then there's something wrong.
Have had plenty of occasions where a healer comes stand next to me when i'm trying to cast and i'm just not able to cast anything while the healer is perfectly able to cast spreadheals himself (in which case i start hitting him.. but my ability to help the group has been compromised from a distance)
In the meantime the mage being guarded has died to savage negating blocks/pbt because of their amazing hitrate.
Having 3 healers (4 actually with shammy included) means you can interrupt 3 people minimum yourself without too much effort, while still being able to do your task yourself. Now you can say enchanters can do the same but it's a whole lot harder to do when you're down in 2-3 combat rounds tops (because healing classes can't heal at the start of the battle) and somewhat easier if 30% of your class is insta's.
I've personally grown to immensely hate this bug abuse, which imo it is because it's abusing game mechanics that will be fixed later on. Just tell healers to stop using it and see how much more challenging fights get when the enemy is being able to heal from time to time, k!

 

[infozwerg]

very funny mate

i admit i may be exaggerating a little ^^

yeh it means its the NP B-team.

free rps

its usually Pandora and unless you have >fg of stealther adds its also a trip to your bindstone

That is the reason why Warriors blocks more than armsmen whit same spec,cause their WS is higher.

how many armsmen "whit same spec" do you know? do these armsmen have comparable gear, realmrank and realmabilities and the same dex? did you ever run any actual tests or just giving voice to your feelings or quoting popular opinion? did you know that some players might have access to dex/qui debuff charges? do you compare block rates against dualwield, 2h or 1h? what is the opponents weaponskill?

 

[Ilur_oom]

Originally posted by old.XanateA
Okay... I play mid. I play in the best guild.
Im so sick of not being able to loose a FG fight... there is no fucking challenge on excalibur anymore... not when it comes to FG fights. Albs do not make balanced groups with good players... not even guild groups.

Last night i saw the total of 0 alb RvR guilds. I saw one group of LA... but even if they play well they stand a minimal chance of winning vs us even if we play equally good.
Got 100k rp or so in 7-8h RvR... and most of it came from killing mindless Warder zerg albs... how fun is that?!?? ((

So nerf the shit out of savages and remove ASD from healers and the fights might be more challenging.
And ppl get less things to whine on... the amount of mid groups out in emain will decrease... cuz there is not many groups who play good and win because of that and not because of the savages doing lots of dmg.

Am i the only mid who wants the realm to be nerfed abit so winning in RvR is decided on experience, teamwork , skill and high RR and not better classes?

Xana want a challenge?? reroll cleric imo =P

 

[israel-keeper]

try to make groups setup w/o savages in it might be more challenge.
i see lots of n00b players playing savages or any other stupid group setup they do and killing old and skilled players so fast it
makes me sad.
but still sometimes the support actually win the fight and mids got best support after all.

 

[Rulke-RM]

Fix the bug where grey con pets count as owners level for the purpose of interupts too imo

 

[Release]

We made a group yesterday which was:

1 Runemaster (me)
3x Healer
1 Shammie
1 Skald
1 Warrior
1 Savage

Needless to say we won all fg v fg fights I think, lost to a few zergs and 2fg VGN (gg guys)
Not to mention we killed 2fg Albs a few times.

 

[Gahldir]

Originally posted by old.XanateA
Okay... I play mid. I play in the best guild.
Im so sick of not being able to loose a FG fight... there is no fucking challenge on excalibur anymore... not when it comes to FG fights. Albs do not make balanced groups with good players... not even guild groups.

Last night i saw the total of 0 alb RvR guilds. I saw one group of LA... but even if they play well they stand a minimal chance of winning vs us even if we play equally good.
Got 100k rp or so in 7-8h RvR... and most of it came from killing mindless Warder zerg albs... how fun is that?!?? ((

So nerf the shit out of savages and remove ASD from healers and the fights might be more challenging.
And ppl get less things to whine on... the amount of mid groups out in emain will decrease... cuz there is not many groups who play good and win because of that and not because of the savages doing lots of dmg.

Am i the only mid who wants the realm to be nerfed abit so winning in RvR is decided on experience, teamwork , skill and high RR and not better classes?

imo, Xana is trying to pull of an "Arnold" somewhere

 

[Gahldir]

Originally posted by Xeanor
Perfect Hib/Alb group with RAs > Savage grp

vs the clueless fotm midgroups that actually seems to lack knowledge how to play you can win fairly easy.

but vs those who have a clue RAs, groupsetup and personall skill doesn't matter most of the times.

 

[Gahldir]

Originally posted by old.XanateA
btw Xeanor: ur success if limited to how good ur bard is at leading ;O

no, meddeh thinks he can be asleep and hibs still win.

xDDD

 

[Gahldir]

Originally posted by Rollie
PR is basically a lv40 rez without the rezsick.

yeah, and 100% more power then the l40 rezz isn't that great either, huh?

 

[Gahldir]

Originally posted by old.Lethul
Well, according to alot of people on irc and watching deathspam there certainly is alot of savages groups that aint "unbeatable". But to be able to beat them you need to have an "opted" group to and when BF on vacation and FC dont seem very active (might be wrong here, or they went odin's )

well, not 100% of all the fotm grps know how to play thier classes(basics, not skill). and thank good for that.