Losing Weight

[tris-]

because there is parts of certain foods that do no benefit the body and they contain no fibre for a start. not all of a bigmac benefits the bodybuilder, but eggs and porridge will. i can agree that certain foods benefit and others do not. if you agree weight gain and loss is down to calories in and out.

looks solid as a base but id want protein at every meal or at least around 150g a day spread how ever you want it. not including your post workout shake.

 

[Bahumat]

bahu: i believe from concentrate means the following -

at the origin, they have x litres of fruit juice. they remove y litres of water and now that leaves a concetrated fruit juice.
the person who buys it adds back the y litres of water making it the same as at the origin. its pretty much the same as fresh squeezed stuff. unless ytou get the really crap stuff. eitherway, fresh or from concentrate should only contain fructose whcih is slow releasing like oats for example.

I cannot be certain, but i noticed alot of diabetic people asking whether certain brands were concentrate or not. I 'believe' the reason is when whomever receives the juice, they re-add the water like you say, but also add sugar to this to keep the sweet taste.
I can only guess its like what sailers used to do (years and years ago) by adding salt to meat to cover up the fact it was starting to go off.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Burn more than you eat.

Cheapest way to do it, get running. Endurance run, 8-10km per run, 3-5 times a week. Slow speed, so it takes you 50 minutes to run the 8km.

Don't run anything less than 30 minutes (unless you need small distances to get your body used to it), as the metabolism burning fat kicks in after that time.

At first your back and feet joints will hurt, but after a week or two you'll be fine.

After a few months of training you'll be able to run a half-marathon easily.

Just don't do the running in the middle of a hot day, I prefer my runs deep in the night or in the early mornings.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Btw it's kilocalories.

I am not sure why everybody strips the kilo when talking about kalories.

Thousands...

 

[old.Tohtori]

Btw it's kilocalories.

I am not sure why everybody strips the kilo when talking about kalories.

Thousands...

Unless they are not talking about calories.

In europe we have this thing called kilo.

Kilos.
Calories.

Different strokes.

 

[- English -]

because there is parts of certain foods that do no benefit the body and they contain no fibre for a start. not all of a bigmac benefits the bodybuilder, but eggs and porridge will. i can agree that certain foods benefit and others do not. if you agree weight gain and loss is down to calories in and out.

looks solid as a base but id want protein at every meal or at least around 150g a day spread how ever you want it. not including your post workout shake.

Doesn't too much protein cause liver problems in the long run? Not sure how much grams you need to get this bad though

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Unless they are not talking about calories.

In europe we have this thing called kilo.

Kilos.
Calories.

Different strokes.

What do you mean with in Europe we have the kilo? As in short for kilogram?

Every time someone says coke has ~130 cal it is ~130 kcal. The food industry started to omit the k so people would believe something has little calories and it seems peeps are believing it.

 

[Aoami]

What's all this talk of good and bad calories btw?

 

[- English -]

bad calories = shit food
good calories = good food

 

[Aoami]

Oh.

 

[Chronictank]

bad calories = shit food
good calories = good food

erm theres no such thing as a bad calorie though

A calorie is just a unit of measurement, more specifically a unit of measurement for energy

There may be more bad stuff in bad food, for different reasons but its nothing to do with how many calories it contains

 

[Aoami]

That's what i was thinking. I get what English means, but it's quite difficult to comprehend at the same time as it doesn't exist!

 

[- English -]

erm theres no such thing as a bad calorie though

A calorie is just a unit of measurement, more specifically a unit of measurement for energy

There may be more bad stuff in bad food, for different reasons but its nothing to do with how many calories it contains

Yes quite true... im mainly talking about fats, should have said ;p

 

[old.windforce]

Do like me and have some nice IBD (Colitis Ulcerosa in my case). I lost over 2 stones (14 kilo) the past 6 weeks just by doing nothing. The downside is the 15 times a day you have to go to the toilet which feels like being anally fisted by a razors covered glove.


But anyway, best way to loose weight a healthy way is NOT to diet because it makes you fat. There is no replacement for good old boosting of your metabolism and eat healthy food. The worst you can eat is chips and anything but the salad from the big yellow M. The best thing you can do is eat when you are feeling hungry.

 

[tris-]

Doesn't too much protein cause liver problems in the long run? Not sure how much grams you need to get this bad though

which yahoo answers page did you get this off?
what counts as too much protein?

this is your downfall in this game man. you cant just read something random on google and then think its correct.

 

[Aoami]

Not enough protein has been known to cause cirrhosis of the liver.

edit - I think, and this is going back a couple of years to when i studied human biology - if you are recovering from liver disease, you'd be advised to not have much protein so the liver has to get it's arse in gear, but it doesn't cause disease.

 

[Iceforge]

i'm sorry but that guy looks like he had most of the muscle beforehand, then ate way too much to put on bulk making himself look overweight.

Which he does tell on his webpage, that he had the muscle from earlier, and had muscle memory working in his favour.

Go theuser group and see more "regular joe's" and their results.

Ofc his results are extreme due to muscle memory; The program will do more toning and less bulking on people who didn't use to be trained like he was before doing his own program.

 

[Iceforge]

And about the dieting, which is being discussed above between Tris and English, the reason why diet programs tell people to eat "healthy" calories rather than "unhealthy" calories, is that while the body runs on calories and makes no difference from getting 1500 calories from big macs or 1500 calories from oatmeal, your STOMACH system registers VOLUME, not calories.
We all roughly know the sizes of 3 big macs (which is supposed to be 1500 calories from your early talk)
Well, to get 1500 calories in oatmeal, you need 385g of oatmeal.

Now, split that into 3 potions of 125-130g each, and ask yourself, serious, which do you think will fill more in your stomach; 125g of Oatmeal or 1 BigMac?
The weight of the oatmeal is DRY, before adding water.
I know I eat 60-70g of oatmeal with water each morning, sometimes upto 80g if I am really hungry.
To compare, I could easily eat 3-4 big macs in a row. When I went to McDonalds (long time since now) I usually ordered a "soccer menu" which is: XL cola, XL fries, Bigmac + Cheeseburger, and THAT was not really something that made me go full for a long time.

 

[- English -]

which yahoo answers page did you get this off?
what counts as too much protein?

this is your downfall in this game man. you cant just read something random on google and then think its correct.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/d...oo-much-protein-damage-your-liver-313763.html

its not exactly fact but its just 1 post of thousands which came up. I didnt even state it did, hence the question mark after my sentence. If you want to get technical in all this tris feel free, you may beat my basic knowledge of it all but i sure know someone who does know what they're talking about - Gimmly hahha

 

[Overdriven]

O_O I feel really bad now..

I wake up ranging from 9-11am, do teeth, eat half hour later (Bowl of oat things, drenched in milk). If not doing anything, have the same, or some toast at around 3-4pm, with water/juice, then eat dinner around 8-9pm (eaten this time since I was around 3, so "it's bad for you" is bs, since I can eat VERY runny eggs too, as I (and all my family) were fed them as a child) - My diet is pooor for when I'm not doing anything.

If I'm going out... Breakfast at about 9 (Cornflakes, a coffee and a cigarette), lunch at around 1pm (Random food joint, ranges from sandwich to burger palces) a snack at like 5pm and then dinner around 9. (Dinner is allways home cooked, we don't use oil (only olive, and that's rare) and we loathe microwave food, unless it's the chinese stuff from ASDA) - Even if coming back from a pub, I can't touch donner kebabs, they make me gag.. Chicken kebabs are win when drunk.

My BINGE days are bad Maybe 4k calories of shite all day.

 

[leviathane]

I know you said running isn't something you wanna do, but I find it quite enjoyable. Nothing like running for a good period of time through the countryside ipod playing and enjoying the views.
If planning on starting just start yourself on small runs for a couple weeks then build up.

 

[- English -]

O_O I feel really bad now..

I wake up ranging from 9-11am, do teeth, eat half hour later (Bowl of oat things, drenched in milk). If not doing anything, have the same, or some toast at around 3-4pm, with water/juice, then eat dinner around 8-9pm (eaten this time since I was around 3, so "it's bad for you" is bs, since I can eat VERY runny eggs too, as I (and all my family) were fed them as a child) - My diet is pooor for when I'm not doing anything.

If I'm going out... Breakfast at about 9 (Cornflakes, a coffee and a cigarette), lunch at around 1pm (Random food joint, ranges from sandwich to burger palces) a snack at like 5pm and then dinner around 9. (Dinner is allways home cooked, we don't use oil (only olive, and that's rare) and we loathe microwave food, unless it's the chinese stuff from ASDA) - Even if coming back from a pub, I can't touch donner kebabs, they make me gag.. Chicken kebabs are win when drunk.

My BINGE days are bad Maybe 4k calories of shite all day.

Dont expect better foods at uni, the guy living next door to be ordered a take away every night. He knew all the drivers in the end :/

 

[Overdriven]

Dont expect better foods at uni, the guy living next door to be ordered a take away every night. He knew all the drivers in the end :/

Difference is, I'm quite happy to spend 20m cooking my food I just need a mini-fridge to store stuffs

 

[- English -]

Difference is, I'm quite happy to spend 20m cooking my food I just need a mini-fridge to store stuffs

and good luck playing games with the restrictions with the halls net. Also if u download like more than 1gig a day you get suspended and have to have a " meeting " with some1 lol.

Luckily i was in my own house

 

[leviathane]

and good luck playing games with the restrictions with the halls net. Also if u download like more than 1gig a day you get suspended and have to have a " meeting " with some1 lol.

Luckily i was in my own house

Found it pretty easy playing online games at uni, only problem was the nets overall stability would crash every 2 hours or so.

 

[- English -]

Found it pretty easy playing online games at uni, only problem was the nets overall stability would crash every 2 hours or so.

At Stafford they are or were retarded last year. Had a number of mates who couldn't play CS or anything because of restricted ports. And im quite sure they had to nag and nag for ages to allow them open.

 

[Maeloch]

if you are recovering from liver disease, you'd be advised to not have much protein so the liver has to get it's arse in gear, but it doesn't cause disease.

iirc, if you have liver disease you can't process proteins properly. Ammonia is a by-product of protein metabolism and this builds up if the liver is knackered, which causes the brain to swell, causing headaches, mental confusion, coma in worst case. So people with liver disease are often advised to go on low-protein diets.

All this technical advice . Just get stuck into something - have a crack - it might be chore at first, but you might end up liking and it even becoming a passion.

 

[confused]

I've always been ok with how much i weigh. I'm 6ft and about 13 stone so i'm no skinny guy.

The past couple of months I've eaten really bad and it's showing. I've started eating healthier but I need to do something more to help lose some weight. I have not done anything stupid like "ok im cutting out bread, cheese, meat from my diet" cause I see that as extreme. Alot of people I hear about who are losing weight cut so much out their diets, then after a couple of weeks, they go back to eating those food types.

At my work we have a restaurant canteen so I've stopped getting any cakes that may be on offer (i would normally have 2 in a week) plus if the food on display is too unhealthy i try to get a jacket potato with either Tuna or Beans. I dont get cheese with the beans as I figure that helps. I may get soup and 2 slices of bread on other days.

Some days I do eat junk food, but I dont want healthy eating to become a hinderance so I dont beat myself up over it.

I dont believe you can lose weight off food alone, so i want to do something physical to help the cause.

Would situps and pressups help, or is it a waste of time?

I dont enjoy running and there is a gym near where I live (about 30 minute walk). I would rather not pay to goto a gym unless it's the only real choice.
The reason I am slightly against the gym is time and money. I work shifts so it'll mean losing most of the few hours I have in the evening (when on the early shift), or if I have to do it before work (night shift) I wont have any time to do anything.

bahu you can be my chunky monkey


Parenting Solved: Diabulemia - Using Diabetes to Control Weight


Probably should add, its really not wize to do this, many have died/ gone blind etc

 

[Bahumat]

I know you said running isn't something you wanna do, but I find it quite enjoyable. Nothing like running for a good period of time through the countryside ipod playing and enjoying the views.
If planning on starting just start yourself on small runs for a couple weeks then build up.

No offense as you're offering advice. But you're basically saying to me "I know you're not gay, but just lick that guys ring piece a little".

It's kinda like when you say "I dont like tomatoes" or "brussel sprouts", then some person says "OMFG how can you say that, i love them"....yeah, just cause you like sprouts, dont mean everyone will.

Sorry to drive that point home Thanks for offering advice though

 

[Bahumat]

bahu you can be my chunky monkey


Parenting Solved: Diabulemia - Using Diabetes to Control Weight


Probably should add, its really not wize to do this, many have died/ gone blind etc

Ok but I want at least 3 cuddles a day!

Thanks for mentioning the link, but just to let you know i'd never do that!