Losing Weight

Bahumat

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I've always been ok with how much i weigh. I'm 6ft and about 13 stone so i'm no skinny guy.

The past couple of months I've eaten really bad and it's showing. I've started eating healthier but I need to do something more to help lose some weight. I have not done anything stupid like "ok im cutting out bread, cheese, meat from my diet" cause I see that as extreme. Alot of people I hear about who are losing weight cut so much out their diets, then after a couple of weeks, they go back to eating those food types.

At my work we have a restaurant canteen so I've stopped getting any cakes that may be on offer (i would normally have 2 in a week) plus if the food on display is too unhealthy i try to get a jacket potato with either Tuna or Beans. I dont get cheese with the beans as I figure that helps. I may get soup and 2 slices of bread on other days.

Some days I do eat junk food, but I dont want healthy eating to become a hinderance so I dont beat myself up over it.

I dont believe you can lose weight off food alone, so i want to do something physical to help the cause.

Would situps and pressups help, or is it a waste of time?

I dont enjoy running and there is a gym near where I live (about 30 minute walk). I would rather not pay to goto a gym unless it's the only real choice.
The reason I am slightly against the gym is time and money. I work shifts so it'll mean losing most of the few hours I have in the evening (when on the early shift), or if I have to do it before work (night shift) I wont have any time to do anything.
 

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Work out how many calories you consume roughly
then do exercise to burn that ammount

Make sure you measure relevant areas to plot your progress, if your weight goes up then do more exercise/fix your calorie intake

If you dont like running you could do cycling or swimming for example,
i personally play squash/football every couple of days but i should be doing more, i am just lazy :p

Burn more fuel than you take in
Thats the only way to naturally lose weight in a healthy manner

Vladb**ch has loads of links for this sort of thing so prod him on msn
 

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Do what I did :) Which has been causing me major stomach pain (Which has actually lead me to eating more) eat 2 meals a day :) one at lunch, and dinner. That'll drop your weight, but cause dietry problems. (Dont' do this, aim for 3-5 a day, not huge, but enough so it's less than what you normall eat - I now have to eat 3 times a day, else my stomach goes into "okay, let me piss my owner off" mode)

Don't calorie count. Just watch what you eat. Fruit/Veg/Red meat in proportion is a good thing.. Exercise, running/skipping/swimming too/
 

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Eating less wont make you lose weight, unless you just starve yourself for weeks.. but lets be realistic.

My advice. Eat breakfast ( porridge etc, its proven to help lose weight and boost metabolism ), lose the sweats, chocolate, takeaways kebabs etc, drink Green Tea (increases metabolism). Eat as much natural foods as you can, skimmed milk, fruit. If your having pasta eat wholemeal, same with bread (its useless calories and stays in body for 3 weeks!!! (does give an energy boost tho)). Workout when you can, go the gym.

Its no overnight process. Im on week 4 out of 10 at the moment with my fitness program. No dramatic difference but I have noticed my arms getting bigger. Mainly due to me going gym 5 days a week and having shit loads of protein / fibre foods.
 

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lol dont cut stuff just rearrange it, so have a good sized breakfast to set you up for the day (porridge and dried fruit with a few nuts is my breakkie de jour but rice and veg is also good) eat complex carbs for brekkie which take longer to burn up so give you more energy but dont eat them before bed or youll just retain the energy = fat. so have a big brekkie then a good sized lunch, remember its all about balance so have something carby but not too much thats carb based so have a slice of bread or a spud but dont OD, what you do want to eat lots of is veg (careful about the baked beans though those mofo's have loads of salt and sugar and arnt as good for you as you may think) and have some meat or fish but again not too much (I think the ideal amount for protein is the same size as the palm of you hand)

and knock the cakes and stuff on the head unless your exercising because you wont burn off the saturated fats, anyhoo thats brekkie and lunch sorted and then just swap brekkie for supper, so have a light snack in the evening maybe just cereal or a piece of toast and some fruit (also dont eat too soon before you go to bed, give it time to digest)

exercise wise, have you thought about getting a push bike? thats a good form of exercise and you can cycle whenever you like without having to pay per time, or swimming is good (I got an off peak membership at a hotel and its way cheaper than the gym, works out at £100 a year which is excellant), sit ups push ups whatever are ok bt you have to do enough to raise your heart rate, doing 10 or 20 and then thats it wont work up a sweat and get your heart rate up (which is where the fat burning begins), if your after something like that just chuck on some music and boogey round the house for 30 mins that'll get your pulse going.

basically anything is better than nothing and dont go cutting out all fatty foods because youll just end up dreaming about them lol.
 

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Eating less wont make you lose weight, unless you just starve yourself for weeks.. but lets be realistic.

My advice. Eat breakfast ( porridge etc, its proven to help lose weight and boost metabolism ), lose the sweats, chocolate, takeaways kebabs etc, drink Green Tea (increases metabolism). Eat as much natural foods as you can, skimmed milk, fruit. If your having pasta eat wholemeal, same with bread (its useless calories and stays in body for 3 weeks!!! (does give an energy boost tho)). Workout when you can, go the gym.

Its no overnight process. Im on week 4 out of 10 at the moment with my fitness program. No dramatic difference but I have noticed my arms getting bigger. Mainly due to me going gym 5 days a week and having shit loads of protein / fibre foods.


I normally have a glass of orange/apple juice (not concerntrate or with any added sugars) for breakfast as I dont ever wake up in time. I never eat mcdonalds or kebabs etc. I do eat at restaurants every other weekend but nothing stupidly fatty etc.
Although I dont drink Green Tea, I do like White Tea (not normal tea with lots of milk, its a tea much like Green Tea so should be ok)

What sucks about the gym is i can drive. So i gotta walk 30 minutes to get to the place, then work out, then walk back. There is no real bus route to the gym, but its a nice big Virgin Gym so it's well equipped.

I will give the pressups and situps a go for 2 months and see how it goes...unless situps & pressups are useless? I dont know if that burns many calories
 

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um from the sounds of it it looks like your putting on weight because your not eating in the morning so your body thinks its starving and conserves the fat supplies, if your really so pushed for time, make a sandwich the night before and eat it while on the way to work, just eat something when you wake up though.
 

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I normally have a glass of orange/apple juice (not concerntrate or with any added sugars) for breakfast as I dont ever wake up in time. I never eat mcdonalds or kebabs etc. I do eat at restaurants every other weekend but nothing stupidly fatty etc.
Although I dont drink Green Tea, I do like White Tea (not normal tea with lots of milk, its a tea much like Green Tea so should be ok)

What sucks about the gym is i can drive. So i gotta walk 30 minutes to get to the place, then work out, then walk back. There is no real bus route to the gym, but its a nice big Virgin Gym so it's well equipped.

I will give the pressups and situps a go for 2 months and see how it goes...unless situps & pressups are useless? I dont know if that burns many calories

Well for me its different. My goal is to build muscle and tone up. Can't you push bike it to the gym as Ez said, do weights and ride home. The biking counts as your CV and the weights also burn a lot of calories... (Probably more than CV).

Someone told me its 70% diet, 30% exercise ;)
 

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exercise wise, have you thought about getting a push bike? thats a good form of exercise and you can cycle whenever you like without having to pay per time, or swimming is good (I got an off peak membership at a hotel and its way cheaper than the gym, works out at £100 a year which is excellant), sit ups push ups whatever are ok bt you have to do enough to raise your heart rate, doing 10 or 20 and then thats it wont work up a sweat and get your heart rate up (which is where the fat burning begins), if your after something like that just chuck on some music and boogey round the house for 30 mins that'll get your pulse going.

basically anything is better than nothing and dont go cutting out all fatty foods because youll just end up dreaming about them lol.

Hehe I do have a bike, but it's a bmx for doing silly stunts on etc so it's not very comfortable to ride!
 

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You won't lose weight doing press ups and situps. They're more a toning method methinks.
 

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Eat often, but smaller portions.
Press ups, sit ups wont make you loose weight directly. However, do enough and you will gain muscle mass. And the more muscles you have, the more calories you will burn keeping them going, allowing you to eat more and not starve yourself.
But if you start doing press ups/sit ups, don't just do as many as you can, then call it a day. Do as many as you can, 3 times. The number will decline for each set, but it works.
Try to fit some sort of cardio in. I don't care if it's Dance Dance Revolution or a bike ride, just try to get your heart rate up for atleast 30 mins.
 

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You won't lose weight doing press ups and situps. They're more a toning method methinks.

ahhh ok.

What sort of things should I do at a gym? I dont wanna bulk up and put on loads of muscles etc. I just wanna lose some weight.

With the Gym I'd have to go every other week because of the evening shifts. Was thinking maybe Monday, Wednesday and Thursday as I am never about on the weekend.
 

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do the TV-training thing! Every commercial, push-ups, sittups whatever. :p
basically just keep your body above 'resting' mode.

(obviously depends on how often you watch TV and how many commercials there are)
 

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do the TV-training thing! Every commercial, push-ups, sittups whatever. :p
basically just keep your body above 'resting' mode.

(obviously depends on how often you watch TV and how many commercials there are)

lol I only watch tv when its the football.
 

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ahhh ok.

What sort of things should I do at a gym? I dont wanna bulk up and put on loads of muscles etc. I just wanna lose some weight.

With the Gym I'd have to go every other week because of the evening shifts. Was thinking maybe Monday, Wednesday and Thursday as I am never about on the weekend.

You really shouldn't worry about bulking up. Honestly, you wont suddenly blow up. The muscle men you see around put ALOT of work into it. (or ALOT of drugs :p)
So, don't worry about bulking up suddenly :)
 

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Not sure situps, pressups burn that much. Could get a cheap ebay bike that's not the end of the world if it gets niked. Some real bargins on there. Cycling great as it has practical use not just burning off energy in gym and paying for the privilage. Started biking to work, the 15min journey 10-15mins faster than the car across town.
 

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You really shouldn't worry about bulking up. Honestly, you wont suddenly blow up. The muscle men you see around put ALOT of work into it. (or ALOT of drugs :p)
So, don't worry about bulking up suddenly :)

Hehe it's ok I am not under the impression I will become Arnie in 2 weeks! I just wanted to do something (not sure if its the right word) cardiovascular? in the sense that I lose the weight and tone up a bit, but without putting on muscle mass akin to lifting heavy weights and chomping on protein all day!

and don't expect losing weight after 2 weeks.... takes months

I am fully aware :p

Not sure situps, pressups burn that much. Could get a cheap ebay bike that's not the end of the world if it gets niked. Some real bargins on there. Cycling great as it has practical use not just burning off energy in gym and paying for the privilage. Started biking to work, the 15min journey 10-15mins faster than the car across town.

I wish I could, but it's an hours train journey so that distance would be a little too much!
 

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You could buy one of those DDR (Dance Dance Revolution) machines and step it up. On top of burning some calories, you can show off your skills later on to your friends!
 

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You could buy one of those DDR (Dance Dance Revolution) machines and step it up. On top of burning some calories, you can show off your skills later on to your friends!

lol i cant work out if you are serious
 

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shamelessly promotion of the program I am currently following myself to loose some weight and gain some muscle:

http://www.iwantsixpackabs.com/

Loads of great FREE information and training videos there, you can alter them to do them at the gym or order the "use at home" equipment that he uses in the videos.

Recommend starting with the quick start program

EDIT: If you dont want the nice newsletter, just click "already a member", there is no password
 

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shamelessly promotion of the program I am currently following myself to loose some weight and gain some muscle:

HOW TO GET SIX PACK ABS IN 16 WEEKS - Six Pack Abs Workout Routine

Loads of great FREE information and training videos there, you can alter them to do them at the gym or order the "use at home" equipment that he uses in the videos.

Recommend starting with the quick start program

EDIT: If you dont want the nice newsletter, just click "already a member", there is no password

i'm sorry but that guy looks like he had most of the muscle beforehand, then ate way too much to put on bulk making himself look overweight.
 

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if he lost that weight again by that method, it's what you're looking for, isn't it? ;)
 

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if he lost that weight again by that method, it's what you're looking for, isn't it? ;)

I dont wanna look like that though. I dont want shoulders to rest people on. I am not saying I will get like that in 2 weeks, however I dont wanna go down his road.
 

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I wish I could, but it's an hours train journey so that distance would be a little too much!
Oh well :(.

Is the option of getting off a stop or two early and biking the rest - and saving money long term - but prolly more trouble than it's worth.

But great thing about a bike also is can get ur excerise anytime you like, straight out the door and ur good to go no messing about. I only got one myself at easter and loving it, too the point of been evangelical!
 

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Would situps and pressups help, or is it a waste of time?

no.

i can tell you what works.

cut out anything that is processed. that is basically, if its already made dont eat it.

replace your food with healthy substitues.
white bread = whole meal
white pasta = whole meal
mc donalds burger = lean mince burger
crisps = porridge
coke = diet coke

etc, you get the idea. breakfast isnt a sugary cereal anymore, its porridge with eggs or eggs on wholemeal toast. with some fresh orange. unless youre allergic to eggs, get in the habbit of eating them. 3-4 whole eggs should do it. 2 slices of toast. 50g of oats etc.

lunch is something like a salad made with 'chunky' salad stuff (carrots, sweetcorn, thick shit, lettuce wont do anything unless you eat a kg of the stuff), with cottage cheese/tuna/lean meat if youre not going with tuna or salmon etc, throw in some cheddar (match box sized piece).

depending on what youve eaten in the day, determines your last meal. did you cheat, eat chocolate and drink sugar cola? well now your calorie deficit doesnt exist if you eat a big meal. do you get what i mean?

the basics is each meal is balanced - carb/protein/fats. remember fats have more calories per gram but can make you feel more full than carbs even if you physically eat less. find what works. if carbs make you hungry, replace carbs with fats. fast carbs in particular like sugar drinks will make you hungry AND tired. slow carbs like oats can keep you feeling full and give you enough energy to keep on trucking. but for some people they can still cause hunger pains.

its calories in VS calories out. you need a deficit of calories whcih is through exercise, diet or in this case you want both.

you can probably make a good start dropping out all the shite stuff, trimming up your meals and cut the snacks. if you wanna snack, i heard cucumber is good or carrots. dont go with nuts etc, youre trying to lose weight and it oculd be too easy for you to not be in a calorie deficit. you can eat ALOT of nuts without even trying.

again, its calories in against calories out. time of day etc means nothing. you could eat in bed and goto sleep and it wouldnt effect your efforts. ASSUMING youre in a calorie deficit.

if youre looking to build muscle in this calorie deficit, you could do it for a few months. thats noob gains but after that it cant happen. to build muscle your body needs extra extra calories. calories to live, then more calories to build tissues. like a fire needs x fuel to keep burning but if you want it bigger you need x+1 fuels.
 

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replace your food with healthy substitues.
white bread = whole meal
white pasta = whole meal
mc donalds burger = lean mince burger
crisps = porridge
coke = diet coke

no coke atg

water milk fresh orange etc
 

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whats wrong with diet coke?

fresh orange has calories. the aim of the game here is to avoid the excess calories. if you wanted 3 sweet drinks a day, trying to lose weight with all the calories you need coming from the meals, then 3 fresh orange would hamper that.

diet on the other hand is nearly zero calories. a 250ml serving of OJ has 30g of fructose, which is 120 calories. thats the same as a sugar cola, but the fructose wont cause a spike and dip like sugar cola.

although isnt bahu diabetic? so he wont be drinking the sugar colas anyway :D
 

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english, where did you get this info that bread stays in your body for 3 weeks and is useless calories?
 

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