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Here's my solution. Make every single food item carry it's total calorie count on the label in big black and white text, with the sugar content in red underneath - ie you buy a tub of icecream it says 6000/2000CAL 200g sugar, and add a sugar tax to food.

Problem fucking solved overnight.

The food industry is more culpable than most people realise - they stuff shit full of sugar so make people hungrier to drive up profits.
If they were any kind of non-essential industry to life ( ie cigarettes ) they'd be looked at as the scummiest fucks on the planet.
Their behaviour is just as bad as the tobacco industries.
 

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Cigarettes non essential? Since when?
 

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I already mentioned education and agree with Tom's multi layered approach. Tax rebalancing is just part of that.

Carrot don't work. Stick don't work. Both together = Win.

70% of the population doesn't lie. And to repeat Tax does NOT equal ban.
 

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Wasn't Jamie Oliver trying to get the government to deal with sugar content in fizzy drinks awhile back? whatever happened to that?
 

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Free school meals for all primary school kids will fix the problem, fuck the current generation, it's too late, just fix the future.

Problem is with the current FSM system is that kids who are poor (IE earn under £18k or something) get the free school meals.

However, builders.... They generally eat a fuck ton but they're working all day and their families usually reflect the same diet they have, resulting in fatty kids, but generally not exactly poor, however if you fill kids of up at school, they go home, they don't wanna eat.
 

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Everyone took one look at the sugar content of his recipies and laughed.
 

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Wasn't Jamie Oliver trying to get the government to deal with sugar content in fizzy drinks awhile back? whatever happened to that?

Everything went zero. Its all we drink now at home, I actually prefer it, though it takes some getting used to. Normal coke tastes foul to me now.
 

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Normal coke tastes foul to me now.
See. Tastes change. :)

There's obviously the possibility that you're priming your body for sugar intake, perhaps releasing insulin in preparation for regulation of sugar levels, but the sugar doesn't arrive - and there's a possibility that that's actually more damaging. I don't think they're certain about that yet but that's currently the way they're leaning. Hey ho. People wanna taste sweet. Even horrid chemically fake sweet.

I switched to a bit of lime cordial if I don't drink water. Or I cut a chunk of an actual lemon or lime and squeeze/bung that into a pint of water. Hey presto. Nice drink, like .25 of a gram of sugar. Missus does it with carbonated water.
 

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Now you see, if the choice is between a nice cold can of Pepsi or the contents of the finger bowl at my local Chinese as @Scouse appears to be suggesting, I think I might just take the Pepsi :)
 

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See. Tastes change. :)

There's obviously the possibility that you're priming your body for sugar intake, perhaps releasing insulin in preparation for regulation of sugar levels, but the sugar doesn't arrive - and there's a possibility that that's actually more damaging. I don't think they're certain about that yet but that's currently the way they're leaning. Hey ho. People wanna taste sweet. Even horrid chemically fake sweet.

I switched to a bit of lime cordial if I don't drink water. Or I cut a chunk of an actual lemon or lime and squeeze/bung that into a pint of water. Hey presto. Nice drink, like .25 of a gram of sugar. Missus does it with carbonated water.

Yet, nothing to do with cost. Just felt I was drinking too much sugar and I might need to get my first filling, which pisses me off no end.
 

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I, personally, would triple the cost of unhealthy foods by law and plough that cash back into the NHS - the people who eat/drink it most would thetefore be paying for their own treatment whilst people who make the obviously more difficult choice to take serious responsibility for their diet and weight would benefit too.

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But how would that help poor families that make so little that unhealthy garbage food is the only thing they can afford most days?

You'd just move the problem from one end of the extreme spectrum to the other with people costing just as much because they starve and become malnourished.
 

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But how would that help poor families that make so little that unhealthy garbage food is the only thing they can afford most days?

You'd just move the problem from one end of the extreme spectrum to the other with people costing just as much because they starve and become malnourished.
Disagree. It can (and mostly is) cheaper to cook good healthy food than eat junk shit.

But still, even if I conceded that point - as some have said a multi pronged approach is necessary. Maybe not all that tax take goes to the NHS - maybe some should go to education, some to subsidising healthier food choices etc. Remember - lots of savings are to be had with a healthier population.

And if you eat nothing but junk shite you're malnourished anyway - you may hit raw calories but you don't get proper nutrients. Like the sailors who ran out of vegetables and thought living off rabbit'd keep em alive there's such a thing as fat but starved of nutrients...
 

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Telling people to eat less is pointless..millions of years of deeply entrenched basic desires is what makes that a hiding to nothing in the days of unlimited calories just an arms reach away.
We either need a appetite supressant drug, some kind of targetted brain surgery or an artificial intestine absorbtion control valve.

The latest tech soon to appear from the states is an implanted discharge pipe , so you can stuff your face, then open a tap and pour your stomach contents into the toilet before they are absorbed.
I would say that is a really good idea...bit gory atm, but will improve with time.
 

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Disagree. It can (and mostly is) cheaper to cook good healthy food than eat junk shit.

But still, even if I conceded that point - as some have said a multi pronged approach is necessary. Maybe not all that tax take goes to the NHS - maybe some should go to education, some to subsidising healthier food choices etc. Remember - lots of savings are to be had with a healthier population.

And if you eat nothing but junk shite you're malnourished anyway - you may hit raw calories but you don't get proper nutrients. Like the sailors who ran out of vegetables and thought living off rabbit'd keep em alive there's such a thing as fat but starved of nutrients...
If you eat the whole rabbit, thats more than enough to keep the body healthy.
 

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Telling people to eat less is pointless..millions of years of deeply entrenched basic desires is what makes that a hiding to nothing.

So putting together your views on evolution: it will turn us all into fat racists. We're fucked, the EDL is the pinnacle of human development :(
 

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Yes..we are pretty well all fat racists who prefer porn to real relationships.
 

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Disagree. It can (and mostly is) cheaper to cook good healthy food than eat junk shit.

But still, even if I conceded that point - as some have said a multi pronged approach is necessary. Maybe not all that tax take goes to the NHS - maybe some should go to education, some to subsidising healthier food choices etc. Remember - lots of savings are to be had with a healthier population.

And if you eat nothing but junk shite you're malnourished anyway - you may hit raw calories but you don't get proper nutrients. Like the sailors who ran out of vegetables and thought living off rabbit'd keep em alive there's such a thing as fat but starved of nutrients...
Educate all you like but theres still the in built desire that we have inherited from our ancestors that you are fighting against.
 

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See. Tastes change. :)

There's obviously the possibility that you're priming your body for sugar intake, perhaps releasing insulin in preparation for regulation of sugar levels, but the sugar doesn't arrive - and there's a possibility that that's actually more damaging. I don't think they're certain about that yet but that's currently the way they're leaning. Hey ho. People wanna taste sweet. Even horrid chemically fake sweet.

I switched to a bit of lime cordial if I don't drink water. Or I cut a chunk of an actual lemon or lime and squeeze/bung that into a pint of water. Hey presto. Nice drink, like .25 of a gram of sugar. Missus does it with carbonated water.
That conspiracy theory was debunked.
Just a lot of people who hate the thought something 'un natural', could be good for you.
Thats why we have that stupid green coke using plant sugar for slightly less calories.
 

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Wasn't Jamie Oliver trying to get the government to deal with sugar content in fizzy drinks awhile back? whatever happened to that?

Look at most cordials on the market now - sugar content is massively down.
 

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But how would that help poor families that make so little that unhealthy garbage food is the only thing they can afford most days?

You'd just move the problem from one end of the extreme spectrum to the other with people costing just as much because they starve and become malnourished.

Tesco Mixed Vegetables 1Kg - Groceries - Tesco Groceries

Tesco Homestyle Straight Cut Oven Chips 950G - Groceries - Tesco Groceries

Tesco 5 Haddock Fillets 400G - Groceries - Tesco Groceries

Tesco Casserole Beef 500G - Groceries - Tesco Groceries

Honestly, fresh healthy food is much cheaper than junk food.
 

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Yeah but so many people cant cook except to bung in the microwave or oven
 

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Educate all you like but theres still the in built desire that we have inherited from our ancestors that you are fighting against.
But you're not helpless against...

Structural reform + education is what's needed. That plus a bit of willpower and everything'll go back to how it was before everyone got massively fat in the past thirty or forty years.

Top tip: Practice your willpower only when shopping. Never buy any bad shit. EVER. Never go into a shop hungry.

There's no snack materials in my house ever because of this. So I'm never, ever, tempted. But can cram a crumble down my neck if I eat out guilt-free.



Yeah but so many people cant cook except to bung in the microwave or oven
So education then, right?

Another link to low-IQ and fatties. Cooking isn't hard. Get a recipe and teach yourself thickies ffs. :eek:
 

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If you eat the whole rabbit, thats more than enough to keep the body healthy.
No. No it isn't. Eating rabbit alone will kill you. Stone dead.

That conspiracy theory was debunked.
Just a lot of people who hate the thought something 'un natural', could be good for you.
Not at all. Science is ongoing. Maybe debunked on whatever quack forum you frequent to get your information tho "rabbits are safe" boy :)
 

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But you're not helpless against...

Structural reform + education is what's needed. That plus a bit of willpower and everything'll go back to how it was before everyone got massively fat in the past thirty or forty years.

Top tip: Practice your willpower only when shopping. Never buy any bad shit. EVER. Never go into a shop hungry.

There's no snack materials in my house ever because of this. So I'm never, ever, tempted. But can cram a crumble down my neck if I eat out guilt-free.




So education then, right?

Another link to low-IQ and fatties. Cooking isn't hard. Get a recipe and teach yourself thickies ffs. :eek:
Damn your cupboards must be boring hehe
 

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Yeah but so many people cant cook except to bung in the microwave or oven

Well that's what you do with frozen vegetables. 5 minutes in the microwave in a bowl of water = cooked.
 

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Many families still do not see Sugar as the issue and still focus on Fat as the problem, many do not even realise the sugar/carbohydrate connection. Many of these people are actually trying to lose weight by eating endless low fat products without realising they just eating masses of sugar instead
 

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Many families still do not see Sugar as the issue and still focus on Fat as the problem, many do not even realise the sugar/carbohydrate connection. Many of these people are actually trying to lose weight by eating endless low fat products without realising they just eating masses of sugar instead
true. But its cause all the fat makes u fat messages of the last couple of decades.
 

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