Left Axe...This is why nerf needed

[sorusi]

200 - 300 dmg each 3.5 sec seems pretty crap dmg too me...

oh yeah my ns doed ~100ish with 2x 3.0 spd daggers buffed, each 1.5sec or so... but he hits damn fast, allmost the same damage output him useing garotte chain, and me useing DF on my zerker.. but when we talk about pos styles, my zerker does more damage...

imo its just silly to talk about other classes you havent played etc, and bg chars doesnt count.. because its totally different from what you expect...

when you get killd by xx class you only see that classes bright sides, you never notice their downsides..

 

[skile]

Originally posted by salamurhaaja
SZs are made so that they can deal better against other assassins/tanks. They are not balanced chars, because they have to give up something (usually critical strike) to gain that advantage.

My char is balanced 5-spec, having 37axe and 39 left axe, but those aren't even enough to pull positional style chain.

Albs got best assassin styles, why can't mids have best "tank" styles?
Or is this one of those things that let all realms be same?

Use the power of albion and roll an infil. We use our power and roll zerkers. Hibs use their strengts when they roll those group RA chars (GP and that group resist thing). How can that be unfair?

Infs generally do shit for the realm . Not very useful in groups, a zerker is.

 

[Trinilim]

Originally posted by sorusi
200 - 300 dmg each 3.5 sec seems pretty crap dmg too me...

holy feck, 200-300 damage every 3.5 seconds???

GIMP!..

oh wait, how silly of me, that's unbuffed and with rez sick isn't it :chortle:

 

[skile]

Originally posted by Trinilim
holy feck, 200-300 damage every 3.5 seconds???

GIMP!..

oh wait, how silly of me, that's unbuffed and with rez sick isn't it :chortle:

thats scout damage without pbt influence. /cry

 

[Trinilim]

Originally posted by skile
thats scout damage without pbt influence. /cry

/comfort

they'll fix archers eventually... well... don't get your hopes up, but probably anyway

 

[dakeyras]

Originally posted by horsma
Good, ill quit in case they nerf LA. And no, i dont want to explain.

better quit then because it is not 'in case'

 

[sorusi]

no 200 - 300 is against ppl that got good resists and resistant armour.. or neutral..

df does really do shit damage..

 

[dakeyras]

Originally posted by wrathofsauron

1. Midgard (meele realm) we are suppose to do most damage shall small fucking celts and saracens do the same damage as trolls?.

Err...what part of this don't you quite understand. Where has it ever been said that Midgard are supposed to do more melee dmg..I'll tell you where. In your dreams!

if you can't comprehend the simple fact that you are not meant to do the damage you are doing then the nerf is going to hurt even more!

Understand this... you have been taking advantage of a mistake made by a developer. That mistake is about to be put right.

Will you still play the game?

I doubt it. The game will become 'no longer fun'

The necro LOS issue that Midgard whines about was a mistake by a developer.

LA was a mistake by a developer

Midgard should wind their necks in about necro LOS until their own Realms mistake has been rectified

 

[sorusi]

will still farm albs.. even with the nerfs

 

[old.LandShark]

Originally posted by sorusi
no 200 - 300 is against ppl that got good resists and resistant armour.. or neutral..

df does really do shit damage..

df damage = damage of most style lines' best style.
best LA style dmg = more than this
comprende?

 

[Agreac]

Originally posted by dakeyras
better quit then because it is not 'in case'

Please give us a source where Mythic states they're gonna nerf LA. They're only looking into LA & eng regen combination.

 

[sorusi]

as a berserker i could do compareable damage with useing 2h... and the axe styles... so please go cry at them too..


2h and LA do allmost the same damage now under a ~10sec fight or so.. maybe LA got some faster hits, but you can still get the ~1200 - 1400 hits with 2h and vendo...

so if they nerf LA they will juse make it useless, and zerkers will become 2h users, and this isnt an option if they want to maintain haveing ppl use LA/CD/DW - best thing to do it to up cd/dw to LA lvl..

 

[Zordo]

http://www.ersboda.com/daoc/soruzi/Tankster_hero_1001.jpg


rofl

 

[sorusi]

thats with 20% relic bonus, and slash vurnable target = tankster get - 30% resists there, so quite easy to reach cap.. and didnt even do that..

 

[Sharp Thing]

Originally posted by sorusi
thats with 20% relic bonus, and slash vurnable target = tankster get - 30% resists there, so quite easy to reach cap.. and didnt even do that..

whats in the 9th slot on your qb soruzi?

 

[sorusi]

charge ability, but thats an old qbar ;p

 

[cjkaceBM]

Originally posted by sorusi
as a berserker i could do compareable damage with useing 2h... and the axe styles... so please go cry at them too..


2h and LA do allmost the same damage now under a ~10sec fight or so.. maybe LA got some faster hits, but you can still get the ~1200 - 1400 hits with 2h and vendo...

so if they nerf LA they will juse make it useless, and zerkers will become 2h users, and this isnt an option if they want to maintain haveing ppl use LA/CD/DW - best thing to do it to up cd/dw to LA lvl..

They won't up CD/DW to the same as LA, because then all 3 light tanks would be the kings of melee. The issue here is that LA/CD/DW were all equal once, and then some muppet decided that LA needed to be twice as good as CD/DW.

I find it amusing that some zerkers will quit if they get brought back into line style wise with the other dual wielders, and yet they whine about LoS, chanters etc.

 

[sorusi]

well thing is to be honest, mercs and bms are useless in grps, they do not do more damage than pure tanks, they should do tho... berserkers on other hand do more than pure tanks, and they do have softer defence than pure tanks etc..

 

[ab_fluid]

i seriously cannot see how u zerkers can moan the proof is in whats written, your style damage is absoloutly crazy and u need bringing back down to normal standards, lame thing is 90% of zerkers who rolled flavour of the month chars will quit

 

[sorusi]

why do you keep consering about style damage? it doesnt matter at all its the _outcome_ that matters, doesnt mean jack shit if someone hits for 1k dmg with 990 style damage or 1k dmg with 20 style damage does it?....

 

[Agreac]

Originally posted by ab_fluid
i seriously cannot see how u zerkers can moan the proof is in whats written, your style damage is absoloutly crazy and u need bringing back down to normal standards, lame thing is 90% of zerkers who rolled flavour of the month chars will quit

Ok, if they do that, they should also lower end cost and add better + to hit/defense bonuses to styles. And what are "normal" standards? CD/DW "gimp" standards so every zerker might just as well make warrior and do equal if not better damage? What would be the point in making light tank at all in this game if they all do equal damage than armsmen/warriors but have worse defence? Instead of crying for nerf tp LA how about crying for boost to your own dual wield lines?

 

[sorusi]

Originally posted by Agreac
Ok, if they do that, they should also lower end cost and add better + to hit/defense bonuses to styles. And what are "normal" standards? CD/DW "gimp" standards so every zerker might just as well make warrior and do equal if not better damage? What would be the point in making light tank at all in this game if they all do equal damage than armsmen/warriors but have worse defence? Instead of crying for nerf tp LA how about crying for boost to your own dual wield lines?

exactly..

 

[lofff]

nerfing LA aint the solution imo.. double CD/DW style dmg mb.. they are too gimped atm ;D make all light tanks b the dmg dealers the are meant to b.

Endregen buff is the big fuck up. U can fight against alb/hib end regen versions easily, u cant do anything against mid one.. Such an huge fuckup killed SoS and endregen RAs for mids.. now mids have speed6 and its extremely hard to kill anything when every target has endless sprint.

MAKE MID END REGEN A CHANT FFS

 

[Ironfoot]

Originally posted by lofff

Endregen buff is the big fuck up. U can fight against alb/hib end regen versions easily, u cant do anything against mid one.. Such an huge fuckup killed SoS and endregen RAs for mids.. now mids have speed6 and its extremely hard to kill anything when every target has endless sprint.

MAKE MID END REGEN A CHANT FFS

So you think every fucking shaman out there has end 5 ? The only shamans that will have end 5 are bots parked at a PK and even if they do give end 5 to a group , you think that group is gonna run back to the PK ever fucking 10 minutes ?

You need to get over this bullshit theory that all mids are running around with speed 6 due to end 5 and perma sprint. Even with end 5 you can't perma frost and perma sprint all day long.

Yeah LA needs to be looked at but you sure as fuck dont need to fuck up an already fucked over support class in order to do it. Remeber the end givers in hib and alb have got some kind of defence in the form of instas and in the case of the pally decent af and the ability to hold their own (to a certain extent) in a fight.

 

[Carlos Bananos]

Originally posted by Ironfoot
So you think every fucking shaman out there has end 5 ? The only shamans that will have end 5 are bots parked at a PK and even if they do give end 5 to a group , you think that group is gonna run back to the PK ever fucking 10 minutes ?

You need to get over this bullshit theory that all mids are running around with speed 6 due to end 5 and perma sprint. Even with end 5 you can't perma frost and perma sprint all day long.

Yeah LA needs to be looked at but you sure as fuck dont need to fuck up an already fucked over support class in order to do it. Remeber the end givers in hib and alb have got some kind of defence in the form of instas and in the case of the pally decent af and the ability to hold their own (to a certain extent) in a fight.

Actually, just about ever shaman has respecced to end 5, the ones that havn't, went for end 4.

Cave shamen are no more, an thank god, it's teh gimp spec.

 

[vintervargen]

Originally posted by Ironfoot
Remeber the end givers in hib and alb have got some kind of defence in the form of instas and in the case of the pally decent af and the ability to hold their own (to a certain extent) in a fight.

aye, u should only know the amounts of blocks i do with me drum!

 

[wrathofsauron]

Originally posted by dakeyras
Err...what part of this don't you quite understand. Where has it ever been said that Midgard are supposed to do more melee dmg..I'll tell you where. In your dreams!

Troll

Huge, strong and slow. The troll is one of the largest races in all three realms due to their large size trolls have a natural advange in pysical combat.

In other words trolls got 35 quickness thus WE HIT VERY HARD when we berserk and even harder when albs dex qui debuff us thank you, the ss that sourzi posted before and the damage on it are extremly rare they do no occur all the time as some people think.

When i picked midgard (midgård) i wanted the best fighter there is for me it was obvious that the best damage dealer would be in midgard i assume you have no idea what midgard is so i suggest you read some about it, for example the starting class is viking to me that name is associated with the most feared warrior in known history, do i even have to mention berserker?

You are right thou it does not say that midgard should deal more damage but a 10 year old would probably figure out that midgard probably got better tanks then hibneria and albion.

Originally posted by dakeyras
if you can't comprehend the simple fact that you are not meant to do the damage you are doing then the nerf is going to hurt even more!

Understand this... you have been taking advantage of a mistake made by a developer. That mistake is about to be put right.!

I understand that midgard currently have one relic.
I understand that midgard have least total rp of all three realms.
I understand that midgard have least players in top 100 individual rp holders.

What i don't understand is how you and others when presented with theese facts want us to get nerfed when we are the weakest realm if you compare the statistics that actually do exist, your tiny world consists of the following facts, boy he do more damage then me he is owerpowered and needs to get nerfed, you fail to see the whole picture.

Originally posted by dakeyras
Will you still play the game?

I doubt it. The game will become 'no longer fun'

Trust me it's always fun to slaughter albs who lack any form of organisation (95%) other then let's bring even bigger numbers that is the only way we can win vs the owerpowered this and that class.

Originally posted by dakeyras
The necro LOS issue that Midgard whines about was a mistake by a developer.

LA was a mistake by a developer

Midgard should wind their necks in about necro LOS until their own Realms mistake has been rectified

Glad you admit that the necro los is a mistake, la can't be a misstake in my eyes.

Troll berserker 35 qui, sc armor, mp weapons and capped stats = is suppose to do most damage in the game imho, sorry if you fail to realize that.

Class Berserker = Sacrifice almost all defence for offense (studded leather) no parry or evade works when zerking have no ranged attacks.

Even compare la and the necro los is a joke imo, you can always run from a zerker you can always stun, slam, root or mess a zerker guess what you can nuke a zerker you can kill a zerker. What can 100 mids do vs 4 necros outside renaris walls with 160 albs protecting them? the answer is nothing, four people kill 100 now we talking!.

Try to imagine this you are inside a keep and there is no spot in that keep where you can avoid getting hit for 3xx damage every 2 secs, if there was no upcoming fix for this i would have been the first one quitting this game.

 

[Qte Eth]

first end 5 is perma sprint
second the whole idea of being 10min buff end regen compared to hibs bs and even albs chant is way to overpowered even if its level 1 ,and besides any shaman got end4-5 ,3 in bad case what aswell allows a lot,and dont requires to be in range near pala or useless bard running with drum

you can always run from a zerker-hm wrong atm ,with end regen u cant run from zerker

 

[dakeyras]

Originally posted by Agreac
Please give us a source where Mythic states they're gonna nerf LA. They're only looking into LA & eng regen combination.

Check out the Zerker TL Comments

 

[dakeyras]

Originally posted by wrathofsauron
Troll




Glad you admit that the necro los is a mistake, la can't be a misstake in my eyes.

In your eyes?

That is the problem. Pendragon testers don't see it through the eyes of a zerker who is in denial. You won't admit, even when presented with the stats that you are doing the damage you are doing because of a mistake!

Zerkers were never meant to hit as hard as they are and it is going to change. End regen is irrelevent. LA has to be taken back to pre 1.50 and then look at end.