Is this what society has come to?

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I don't think she did. If you listen to the answer to all of the questions she answers correctly and consistently.

The quick-fire questions coming at her completely change subject and context and they've clearly practiced that line of questioning before she came on. And she dealt with it well.

But she's still Jimmie Krankie, no matter how she answers identifies - right @Bodhi? :)
 

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There is a benefit - it gets arseholes off the street and away from the general public. Just like the female arseholes who are in prison.

I don't care whether they're men or women or penguins - I don't think we should have segregated prisons anyway. In the same way I think single-sex schools breed mysoginists and misandrists that are poorly adapted to working with the opposite sex - our prisons are the same. And I think the same for hospital wards too - we shouldn't have single sex wards. The healthiest wards are mixed wards becase men and women play off each other.

Rapists and paedos? Lock 'em up separately (as is happening). The rest? Bung em all in together.

It's just not a problem. The example you gave is NOT a problem. The whole discussion on this crap is dead m8.
This former prison governor thinks you are dead wrong:


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Frankly, our whole approach to crime and punishment needs scrapping and focussing on rehabilitation - real rehabilitation.

Before they brought in the po-po (which was a thinly-veiled punt by the rich to ensure there was a 'militia' to keep the poor in line - which is still their model today) we'd have to live alongside criminals ourselves - we knew what humanity was all about and we were hardened to it.

Our model is expensive, broken and is focused on punishment that is proven to not work. We need to reduce criminality and reduce repeat offending.
 

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My mind is fucking blown by this. A choreographer points out a violent rapist who identifies as a woman was very obviously a man by, you know, doing rapes 'n shit, and the band he's working with sacks him for being transphobic? Rather missing the point about the actual important issue aren't they?
 

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My mind is fucking blown by this. A choreographer points out a violent rapist who identifies as a woman was very obviously a man by, you know, doing rapes 'n shit, and the band he's working with sacks him for being transphobic? Rather missing the point about the actual important issue aren't they?
It's exactly the thing Ricky Gervais was joking about. 'Raped with HER penis, you bigot!'
 

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Incidentally one of my son's mates has decided he no longer identifies as a girl as it was just a dumb thing he did for attention.

Which never happens.
 

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My mind is fucking blown by this. A choreographer points out a violent rapist who identifies as a woman was very obviously a man by, you know, doing rapes 'n shit, and the band he's working with sacks him for being transphobic? Rather missing the point about the actual important issue aren't they?
Could have just pointed out that the cunt was a rapist, no? Didn't even need to wage into the transgender shite. Own goal tbpfh.

Edit: It's more about the fact that people want to be touchy-feely about the very nice Eddie Izzards of the world. I've come round to the opinion that we just need to figure out a different name for 'em tbh.
 

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Incidentally one of my son's mates has decided he no longer identifies as a girl as it was just a dumb thing he did for attention.
That's the kind of default thing for kids isn't it. I wonder if half the hoo-ha is just to give kids something to do...
 

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Could have just pointed out that the cunt was a rapist, no? Didn't even need to wage into the transgender shite. Own goal tbpfh.

Edit: It's more about the fact that people want to be touchy-feely about the very nice Eddie Izzards of the world. I've come round to the opinion that we just need to figure out a different name for 'em tbh.
Eddie Izzard is a straight white man. Simples.

/edit: Oh, and sometimes he likes to wear lipstick and heels, which is fine.
 

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So I've been on twitter a bit. bear with...

Women can be men
Men can be Women
Some women like trans people
Some don't
Even people that don't know what the fuck everyone is arguing about are called...CIS, I believe?

Can I opt out of all this bollocks?
 

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So I've been on twitter a bit. bear with...

Women can be men
Men can be Women
Some women like trans people
Some don't
Even people that don't know what the fuck everyone is arguing about are called...CIS, I believe?

Can I opt out of all this bollocks?
Cis is just a made up bollocks term which means nothing except, not trans, or non binary, or other stuff. Never allow it to be used about you. It’s just admitting that you believe that people have gender souls and yours is the boring kind.
 

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I don't care what graphics card he has.
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Interesting take on the above:


I see this book as a projection of the writers distort images of what it is to be female.
 

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No doubt it's fucked up. Probably won the pulitzer because of it's "startling originality" or something. Or really, it made the judges feel something. Whatevs, hardly anyone will read it - I looked at the extract and realised I'd lost the will to live :)

But to take a single line from that article:
Pornography drips with misogyny.
Perhaps the willing female participants who's day jobs is to film these things feel differently about fantasy eh? There's an easy fix for feminists who hate porn - convince women to not make it.

Personally, I think feminism drips with misogyny (and misandry) nowadays.
 

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History will not look back kindly on this trans rights bullshit.
 

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History will not look back kindly on this trans rights bullshit.
I dunno. I think it'll look back in the same way we felt about gay rights at the time. There's a load of bullshit (the sport thing being the first one I'd point at myself) but if when we come out the other side of this and people can put penguin on their passport, we've all got same-sex loos and trans people are a non-entity who nobody really gives a shit about, then all to the good.

In the meantime, we can all be outraged at fringe shit.
 

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It’s not fringe. Most of the older males who decide they are women are pervs. They don’t have dysphoria. They get off on it. Brains broken by weird porn.
 

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All of this is a direct result of us trying to make sense of individual human sexuality by defining it as one of two genders only. Life isn't that simple. Education is needed.
 

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All of this is a direct result of us trying to make sense of individual human sexuality by defining it as one of two genders only. Life isn't that simple. Education is needed.
 

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All of this is a direct result of us trying to make sense of individual human sexuality by defining it as one of two genders only. Life isn't that simple. Education is needed.

Education on mental health issues, agreed.
 

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That's not a position I hold, so no, we do not agree.
 

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