is Maelstrom killing the Agramon nights?

[MaditioN]

Keep running . People who will want a challenge will still come . This message doesnt go to Maelstrom but to anyone who does it ..if they want a challenge and they 'know' they are uber players ..they drop their full rr10 plus grp and ra dump ..and try something a little harder . Run a fg of rr 4's and have a challenge for the first time in 4 and a half years and see how ye do . Ill tell ye how ye will do .. PUG GRP .

aye because when we first started to play we where instant rr11, we never played throu rr1-11 and never meet other higher rr grps that creamed our asses?!orly

losers=dedication/waste of time=maelstrom?

ofc! we are playing aprox 3hours a night when people aint got rl stuffs and if we can get players :]

With what guild where you playing with, and with who? hib I supose?

he played with Ascending Dawn if my mind dont fool me, also sometimes with Eclipse, who are you anyway? ~~

http://f.nu/madition/daoc/ascending_dawn_mejt.jpg

edit: and keep the whjiiiinage coming!

 

[Dorimor1]

Let's put it this way, if the other groups ran all RR10-11 then Maelstrom wouldn't be doing as good.

 

[Vodkafairy]

Let's put it this way, if the other groups ran all RR10-11 then Maelstrom wouldn't be doing as good.

bullshit. rr is way overrated teamwork plays the biggest role, then setup, then rr.

 

[Dave J.]

mael have to run easymode setup, cause if they loose a fight the whinage is so huge that half the group will quit ventrilo, and the other half will quit from irc instantly

=)

 

[Mastade]

Let's put it this way, if the other groups ran all RR10-11 then Maelstrom wouldn't be doing as good.

RR ran a close to rr10-11 grp and didnt do that well.. Our setup wasnt that optimal but still didnt do good. Point is, if you put good high rr players in a sick mid setup that play together on a regular basis you will outperform those that doesnt.. tough shit, but thats just the way it is

 

[Straef]

are the less experinced grps whining about not being able to farm eachother anymore just cuz one of the good grps didnt roll camlann? ;P
How did u think it was before camlann?

You need to have some hard groups in every realm to balance eachother out tho ;x If you'd have a Mael equivalant actively playing on alb/hib at the moment you wouldn't see the same lowby groups getting run over again and again, as the hard groups would keep eachother busy, at least for a bit, while a group has free reign when it has no proper opposition, as it is now.

 

[Chrstffr]

RR ran a close to rr10-11 grp and didnt do that well.. Our setup wasnt that optimal but still didnt do good. Point is, if you put good high rr players in a sick mid setup that play together on a regular basis you will outperform those that doesnt.. tough shit, but thats just the way it is

due to sucky bodyguarding clearly

 

[Mastade]

due to sucky bodyguarding clearly

Ye prozze stinks

 

[andeh]

bullshit. rr is way overrated teamwork plays the biggest role, then setup, then rr.

don't argue with the all knowing dorimor please, we all know he has a vast amount of fg experience from which his opinion on this matter is formed.

 

[Vodkafairy]

don't argue with the all knowing dorimor please, we all know he has a vast amount of fg experience from which his opinion on this matter is formed.

true, sorry. but i think he only wins fights because his healerpet is rr13 irl.

 

[Straef]

aye because when we first started to play we where instant rr11, we never played throu rr1-11 and never meet other higher rr grps that creamed our asses?!orly

I agree that every group had to start somewhere, as I've been there myself and it's pretty obvious that anyone who'd rolled a character himself has been there. There were, however, no groups of rr10-11 players around when you were, say, rr5, as I remember fighting you back then, and even tho there were some individuals, I don't recall seeing entire groups of them.

 

[Valgyr]

Cant ever recall seeing any whine from mids or albs when OG ran and they where like... higher RR than us?

Well the diff between rr 8 on all players in grp and rr 10 is kinda ok rr 5 vs rr 10 is another thing.

 

[brad]

valg smells of weee, :england:

 

[Bondoila]

bullshit. rr is way overrated teamwork plays the biggest role, then setup, then rr.

The rr makes a huge diff. The dmg out put from an high rr grp is so much higher. Also when the grp is able to have am3 baod3 bof3 moc3(on healers) you can start to noticed that it's kinda twice as hard to drop that grp vs one not having any of it.
Still a high rr grp with bad players will never do well and will also lose to much lower rr grps with experienced players in. But bullshit aint really the word I would use.

 

[auroria]

well it could actually be fun if all grps did /respec realm sometime to test, although maelstroem are good players, and doubt it would make big difference, the thing is that everything would be more depending on who wins the mezz and how many demezzers your group have

 

[Martok]

Well tbh i know maelstrom hated the old Evita group and we hated them but tbh i felt we always gave eachother a good fight although we lost about 98% of the time!

tbh maelstrom have been running for a very long time and its good to see them back and i cant wait to get dug into them with my cabby / heretic instead of my merc (who the bastards always used to kite and kill )

anyway back to the thread give it a month or so good groups from all realms will start to apear and people will start getting to the level needed and the mentality needed to kill maelstrom ect just takes time practice patents and determination and teamplay. To be honnest mael cant be blamed for killing everyone what they can do though is leave my damn poor merc alone .

the pugs / groups / gg will keep running if people from all 3 realms keep going agramon and it wont die. it will only die when people get fed up and go iRVR and the easy rp's take the challenge as long as all gorups stick to the no adding policy then i dont see a problem tbh they are hard but can still be beaten!

 

[Cromcruaich]

Well tbh i know maelstrom hated the old Evita group and we hated them but tbh i felt we always gave eachother a good fight although we lost about 98% of the time!

tbh maelstrom have been running for a very long time and its good to see them back and i cant wait to get dug into them with my cabby / heretic instead of my merc (who the bastards always used to kite and kill )

anyway back to the thread give it a month or so good groups from all realms will start to apear and people will start getting to the level needed and the mentality needed to kill maelstrom ect just takes time practice patents and determination and teamplay. To be honnest mael cant be blamed for killing everyone what they can do though is leave my damn poor merc alone .

the pugs / groups / gg will keep running if people from all 3 realms keep going agramon and it wont die. it will only die when people get fed up and go iRVR and the easy rp's take the challenge as long as all gorups stick to the no adding policy then i dont see a problem tbh they are hard but can still be beaten!

Well said.

 

[Konah]

You need to have some hard groups in every realm to balance eachother out tho ;x If you'd have a Mael equivalant actively playing on alb/hib at the moment you wouldn't see the same lowby groups getting run over again and again, as the hard groups would keep eachother busy, at least for a bit, while a group has free reign when it has no proper opposition, as it is now.

1 problem with that, alb only has 1 setup that works consistently and it cant do shit vs 2 bd's (and mael know this). perhaps this is a function of how few grps there are around and the setups your likely to encounter being so predictable, caba/sorc/theurg for alb and bain/eld/bain for hib.

kinda strange that when ppl whine about no fg action they go and roll with a setup that 99% grps will have little to no chance against. personally i never rly got much enjoyment from fights that were too easy. am surprised/glad it took mids so long to finally run 2 bd's aswell tho heh.

maybe time for the det5 aom5 em3 hybrid armsman grp of doom!

 

[Kraben]

Or do it like happend on the french servers I believe: signup tournatment for all 3 realms. All rr8 and any setup allowed fg v fg.

Was a goa event and the fightings took place in some closed battleground.

Only way to find out who's best rly.

 

[Belisar]

NFD2 and Maelstrom were the only groups in Agramon for a while on Sunday and Maelstrom owned us more times than I can remember. The thing was we kept going back and trying something slightly different, we were happy to fight them and lose as it meant we could analyse and try to improve.

What would make it better is more groups in Agramon, then you do not have to fight the same group and same set up time after time. Meeting different enemy and thinking on the hoof in an 8 vs 8 fight is a lot of the fun and the challenge. Last Tuesday was as good as I can remember RvR wise.

I would encourage all groups to have a run or two there and see how it goes. You can learn a lot more from a defeat than an easy win and if it all gets a bit too much then there is still the choice to go play elsewhere.

Maelstrom are damn good at what they do and I take my hat off to them for being so tough. I have no issue with them being there, but a few more groups would make it a lot more interesting.

 

[Eyres]

Who says you win because of 2 bds in grp. you were still good with normal setup. everybody knows your grp plays well, just lame setups make it harder

But your right maybe other grps are going to have to start changing setups if you continue to run 2 bds

reason bds are fairly annoying imo is, they interupt well on caster grps, and against tank trains they straef all over the shop + pd4 etc.

5 caster kite groups are a hell of a lot more lamer and 2 bds is the way to counter them


seriously this thread is retarded its like Azerbajn complaining they cant win the world cup because Brazil are playing

 

[Chamie]

Hehe, it’s losers vs losers. Only the RL losers win in-game
Some call it dedication, others a waste of time.

Fun to see these threads again. Anyways back to OT. Cya in another RvR whine thread near you

ftr I only read the first 2 pages.

tbh doesn't count for mmorpg games ;P.
Can ensure u that roleplayer average looks a lot more scary than competetive player average in mmorpg if u don't agree well then I dont know what kind of people u are used to see where u live ;P.

 

[Genedril]

5 caster kite groups are a hell of a lot more lamer and 2 bds is the way to counter them


seriously this thread is retarded its like Azerbajn complaining they cant win the world cup because Brazil are playing

But Brazil don't run 2 bd's!!!!

Actually you made me laugh & that should never happen wading through the whine .

 

[Chronictank]

But Brazil don't run 2 bd's!!!!

Actually you made me laugh & that should never happen wading through the whine .

the whole point of whine is to entertain you at work

 

[MaditioN]

seriously this thread is retarded its like Azerbajn complaining they cant win the world cup because Brazil are playing

made me laugh also haha

 

[Genedril]

the whole point of whine is to entertain you at work

Givf work - bloody broken collar bone sat at home for 5 weeks .

 

[Chronictank]

Givf work - bloody broken collar bone sat at home for 5 weeks .

play daoc

Worst part about work is when you have nothing to do, you can amuse yourself with games because everyone can see you screen ><

 

[adoNix]

well it could actually be fun if all grps did /respec realm sometime to test, although maelstroem are good players, and doubt it would make big difference, the thing is that everything would be more depending on who wins the mezz and how many demezzers your group have

i smell hidden hib whine faril ;o ;p

 

[Profion]

Wont have any damagedealer in 2 weeks, I am going to Egypt for a month then, so dont worry.

well we dont really need u grawen, i do more dmg with my shaman then u do with your ressist bugged SM have fun in the Egypt ALACHBAR!! or smt

 

[swords]

In response to the original poster, no ofc they aren't.