Is It Leagal To use a crafting macro as long as you are presant at the computer?

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If I keep my finger pressed on one button, while levelling in some bug-abuse-free way, and never bother to reply to any messages (most probably I'd seem AFK that way, let's say I removed all chats but /gu and no one is talking, cause it's late at night) would I get banned if I was up for a check up?

If so, how do you motivate what I'm doing wrong?

I daresay that if you deliberatly go out of your way to make it appear like you may be AFK even if your not (like for example, keeping one button constantly pressed down and ignoring any PM's from GM's), then yes, you might get banned, even though you havn't technically broken any rules.

I wouldnt expect too much sympathy when you send GOA your 'Mwuhahahah I twicked you' Email ;)

I wouldnt expect your account back either!! ;)

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Meduza said:
isnt that what animists r doing ?!? :) Watching movies while having 1 finger pressing 1 button over and over again in the livingroom ? :p (be4 the nerf i recon they did)

still do
 

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Tycho said:
I daresay that if you deliberatly go out of your way to make it appear like you may be AFK even if your not (like for example, keeping one button constantly pressed down and ignoring any PM's from GM's), then yes, you might get banned, even though you havn't technically broken any rules.

I wouldnt expect too much sympathy when you send GOA your 'Mwuhahahah I twicked you' Email ;)

I wouldnt expect your account back either!! ;)

Tycho

I dont think you can filter out what the GM is saying to you, but there is a way to put close button on the chat window in the new toa ui interface, that way you can close down chat totaly and it is impossible for you to see any chat. dont know goas stand on that tho
 

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so what about setting a pet on aggressive at a neutral mobcamp and go afk?

3rd party crap involved here!
 

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if you cant use the tools been given to you in game.. and must think of some way around the normal way of playing.. macro's.. radar whatever.. u DESERVE to be banned. dont care how trivial it seems.. some of us have got there the way and u trivialize our achievements.. go play summit else... coz u aint welcome here.
 

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Morchaoron said:
so what about setting a pet on aggressive at a neutral mobcamp and go afk?

3rd party crap involved here!

I meant NO 3rd party crap involved here, but cant edit here on FH ><
 

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Morchaoron said:
I meant NO 3rd party crap involved here, but cant edit here on FH ><


that would be AFK xp'ing. and thats allso illegal :) seen ppl getting banned when caught there :p

and u can edit :) but only within 10 mins from posting the original message.
 

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chanter puts pet on defense stand in the middle of spawn on stay and turns on his lvl40 focus and stick the jumpbutton down

menta sticks down his hotbutton with pet in target

buffbot buffs pet with lotsa buffs and sticks down his FOPbutton

voila, autoxping! and u just need 3 PCs to do this. Drawback is, you get no loot from it.

Doubt its acceptable though :)

I dunno how its breaking the CoC though, pet on defense dont attack mobs others have pulled (mobs attack pet in this situation), you dont use a macro or a 3rd party tool. (unless you wanna count a weight to push down a button as a 3rd party tool but then a lot of xpers at 4fins is breaking the CoC all of a sudden since lots of ppl do exactly this)

This is imo a borderlinecase, ban or not ban? I havent dared to actually try this setup since I dont want a ban but would be nice to know for sure what rules applies to a setup like that.
 

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Elewyth(TLSOA) said:
have to agree with req on this one...u cheated = ban ...end of story.

never ever use anything that isnt available via this game.

what about all the UI's everyone is developing they are a not part of the game ban everyone who is using a UI then


hate people who suck upto people bet he was the snitch at school who everyone hated
 

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Behmoth said:
what about all the UI's everyone is developing they are a not part of the game ban everyone who is using a UI then


hate people who suck upto people bet he was the snitch at school who everyone hated

UI's are a part of the game, the only difference is that Mythic allowed them to be customisable with TOA. Should I underline the allowed bit? Yes... yes I think I will. I'll even go one better and give it lots of other fancy effects so it stands out.

Though my 'post' was done before Requiel's my own opinions are pretty much in line with his, does that mean i'm a suckup as well? Does that mean I snitched on people? Or is it just that because you've got no decent counter-arguement your pulling shit out of your ass?
 

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Archeon said:
... does that mean i'm a suckup as well?
yes!

Archeon said:
Does that mean I snitched on people?
ofc!

Archeon said:
Or is it just that because you've got no decent counter-arguement your pulling shit out of your ass?
how rude!


now we can conclude, that ur a rude suckin' up snitch!

:flame:
 

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Archeon said:
Or is it just that because you've got no decent counter-arguement your pulling shit out of your ass?
P*ssed myself laughing at that! :clap:
 

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1.68.. or 1.67.. not 1.69
:( i want xx hrs of my life back

on the macroing note, i have a gamepad which as a function to press keys in regular intervals (havent btohered attaching it cus im lazy but still) that mean that it is illegal to use that? its not a third party program as it is a piece of hardware.
 

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Chronictank said:
:( i want xx hrs of my life back

on the macroing note, i have a gamepad which as a function to press keys in regular intervals (havent btohered attaching it cus im lazy but still) that mean that it is illegal to use that? its not a third party program as it is a piece of hardware.
Chron, read the whole thread m8! Yes, its illegal! No, you cant use it! Yes, you will get banned or have your skills killed off for doing so! Yes, people have been banned / raped for using them!

Now read requiels answers for why... lets not start this thread from the beginning again!:twak:
 

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Meduza said:
now we can conclude, that ur a rude suckin' up snitch!

I suppose regarding this thread at least, yes I am being rude. I find it insulting that some people are trying to defend people who cheat using weak excuses such as "Everyone does it" - I know its cliché but if everyone started jumping off a cliff would you do it? Its just an excuse, and not even a very good one at that.

So I’m not going to apologise for seeming rude because I don't have a very high opinion of the scum that do things like this and expect to be let off because they think they know 'The Law'.
 

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Shike said:
chanter puts pet on defense stand in the middle of spawn on stay and turns on his lvl40 focus and stick the jumpbutton down

menta sticks down his hotbutton with pet in target

buffbot buffs pet with lotsa buffs and sticks down his FOPbutton

voila, autoxping! and u just need 3 PCs to do this. Drawback is, you get no loot from it.

Doubt its acceptable though :)

I dunno how its breaking the CoC though, pet on defense dont attack mobs others have pulled (mobs attack pet in this situation), you dont use a macro or a 3rd party tool. (unless you wanna count a weight to push down a button as a 3rd party tool but then a lot of xpers at 4fins is breaking the CoC all of a sudden since lots of ppl do exactly this)

This is imo a borderlinecase, ban or not ban? I havent dared to actually try this setup since I dont want a ban but would be nice to know for sure what rules applies to a setup like that.

read this post

https://forums.freddyshouse.com/showthread.php?t=26217

this might give u the answer ur looking for...in this post Requiel quite clearly states on page 6 using scenario's that using weights, so ur char does stuff whilst ur AFK..is infringment of the CoC
 

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Behmoth said:
what about all the UI's everyone is developing they are a not part of the game ban everyone who is using a UI then


hate people who suck upto people bet he was the snitch at school who everyone hated


lolol get a clue 1st....UI's were brought in with TOA...so u could swap and change em

in otherwords to clueless ppl like you...they are Offical!
 

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Archeon said:
So I’m not going to apologise for seeming rude because I don't have a very high opinion of the scum that do things like this and expect to be let off because they think they know 'The Law'.
Judge Dredd (unfortunately not Judge Judy) said:
I am teh law!


1. The message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 3 characters. <--- Hmm, cant quote post it seems :p
 

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Ctuchik said:
that would be AFK xp'ing. and thats allso illegal :) seen ppl getting banned when caught there :p

and u can edit :) but only within 10 mins from posting the original message.

i was afk once in odins with pet on aggressive in a quite desolate place with nothing around, when i came back later i noticed he killed 3 stealthers (my redcon pet did more damage then them)

am i gonna get banned now? :(
 

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Morchaoron said:
so what about setting a pet on aggressive at a neutral mobcamp and go afk?
no 3rd party crap involved here!

Shike said:
chanter puts pet on defense stand in the middle of spawn on stay and turns on his lvl40 focus and stick the jumpbutton down

menta sticks down his hotbutton with pet in target

buffbot buffs pet with lotsa buffs and sticks down his FOPbutton

voila, autoxping! and u just need 3 PCs to do this. Drawback is, you get no loot from it.

Doubt its acceptable though

I dunno how its breaking the CoC though, pet on defense dont attack mobs others have pulled (mobs attack pet in this situation), you dont use a macro or a 3rd party tool. (unless you wanna count a weight to push down a button as a 3rd party tool but then a lot of xpers at 4fins is breaking the CoC all of a sudden since lots of ppl do exactly this)

This is imo a borderlinecase, ban or not ban? I havent dared to actually try this setup since I dont want a ban but would be nice to know for sure what rules applies to a setup like that.
vintervargen said:
Chronictank said:
on the macroing note, i have a gamepad which as a function to press keys in regular intervals (havent btohered attaching it cus im lazy but still) that mean that it is illegal to use that? its not a third party program as it is a piece of hardware.

I have allready answered what Mythics feelings about this is in this very same thread, if people would just read through it.
https://forums.freddyshouse.com/showpost.php?p=355474&postcount=302


Morchaoron said:
was afk once in odins with pet on aggressive in a quite desolate place with nothing around, when i came back later i noticed he killed 3 stealthers (my redcon pet did more damage then them)

am i gonna get banned now?

Guess you should be.
 

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Morchaoron said:
i was afk once in odins with pet on aggressive in a quite desolate place with nothing around, when i came back later i noticed he killed 3 stealthers (my redcon pet did more damage then them)

am i gonna get banned now? :(
No. If you had read this thread (and the related one), you will see Requiel saying that strictly speaking, exping AFK with a pet is not illegal per se since the pet is just doing something it would normally do, and does not require human intervention. However, if you are afk-exping and your pet happens to aggro someone else's pulled mob, you are in deep trouble.

Of course, don't take my word for it, look up Requiel's post for yourself to be certain.
 
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