Infils = 2 button class

[-RG-Jaond]

Originally posted by Haldar
fotms are not that bad, i still kill them. but high RR infi is a serious threat, and if he's thrust and purge down - its a /release.

No but they very rare less then 5

 

[Haldar]

Originally posted by -RG-Jaond
No but they very rare less then 5

/agree

 

[Glottis_Xanadu]

Originally posted by Haldar
a story

All I read in all the posts that any SB has made so far is that they insist on winning 100% of the fights.
Right now, SB vs Inf is an even fight. You guys complain about the fact there are too many infs, while pre 1.62 there were more SB's than infs (right now 278 infiltrators vs 273 lvl 50 shadowblades, so once again, it is even).
Regards, Glottis

 

[-RG-Jaond]

Originally posted by Glottis_Xanadu
All I read in all the posts that any SB has made so far is that they insist on winning 100% of the fights.
Right now, SB vs Inf is an even fight. You guys complain about the fact there are too many infs, while pre 1.62 there were more SB's than infs (right now 278 infiltrators vs 273 lvl 50 shadowblades, so once again, it is even).
Regards, Glottis

What do you know about that?

You camp amg with the infil zerg 24/7 how can you possible know what equal is?

 

[Haldar]

Originally posted by Glottis_Xanadu
All I read in all the posts that any SB has made so far is that they insist on winning 100% of the fights.
Right now, SB vs Inf is an even fight. You guys complain about the fact there are too many infs, while pre 1.62 there were more SB's than infs (right now 278 infiltrators vs 273 lvl 50 shadowblades, so once again, it is even).
Regards, Glottis

1. compare active players, not a total number. number of 50 lvl infis has increased wildly and i havent seen a new 50 lvl shadowblade for at least a month..
2. read better. i insist on having same tools as infiltrators have, not on having 100% win rate.

btw, how much money u infis spent on ur armor and weapons? i used over 55 plat on my gear, and i use approx 600-800g each RL week on AF charges and potions. how many of you put same amount of efforts on ur char, huh?

 

[piggeman]

10 pages of whine! impressive!

 

[Puppetmistress]

Originally posted by Rollie
no a dex/con oppose to str/con debuff, this would help sb's vs thrust infs and pierce NS.

Bullshit. Thrust/pierce is 50% dex and 50% strength.

So the drop in weaponskill from dex/con poison would be same as str/con poison.

However, the dex/con poison will also reduce his evade because of the drop in DEX and evade is DEX/QUI based.

So in all: That is NOT a solution.

 

[Haldar]

Originally posted by Puppetmistress
Bullshit. Thrust/pierce is 50% dex and 50% strength.

So the drop in weaponskill from dex/con poison would be same as str/con poison.

However, the dex/con poison will also reduce his evade because of the drop in DEX and evade is DEX/QUI based.

So in all: That is NOT a solution.

poison may be made to str/dex debuff (debuff equality, also will bring back need to PA targets) or str/dex/con debuff.

 

[-RG-Jaond]

Originally posted by Glottis_Xanadu
All I read in all the posts that any SB has made so far is that they insist on winning 100% of the fights.

The sbs who insist on winning 100% of the fights allready done /quit. And play savage or fotminfil on pryd

The sbs posting here is the ones who want a fair fight with infils not only when purge is up.

 

[BidAccount]

Originally posted by -RG-Jaond
The sbs who insist on winning 100% of the fights allready done /quit. And play savage or fotminfil on pryd

The sbs posting here is the ones who want a fair fight with infils not only when purge is up.

Provided they win of course. Its in the rules - midgard losing = unfair.

 

[-RG-Jaond]

Originally posted by donttouchpoopy
Provided they win of course. Its in the rules - midgard losing = unfair.

That sounds like you, if you wanted fair fights you would leave amg. Now you camp amg with the rest of the fotmzerg to be 100% sure to win

 

[BidAccount]

Originally posted by -RG-Jaond
That sounds like you, if you wanted fair fights you would leave amg. Now you camp amg with the rest of the fotmzerg to be 100% sure to win

I'll run solo when SBs do, and when buffs have range.

The onkly SBs I've seen solo in the past couple of months are Hroft and Nikki.

I may not be the greatest player, but even I'm not so dumb as to make the fundamental tactical error of trying to take on multiple rr5 plus buffed SBs on my own.

 

[lorric]

yea you wouldnt see the solo SBs because u never leave the amg

 

[BidAccount]

Originally posted by lorric
yea you wouldnt see the solo SBs because u never leave the amg

duh

This infil is a number of months old.

And you think I've never got past amg?

Riiiiight......

Go sit down now please.

 

[quinthar]

Originally posted by Haldar
/sigh

why dont u delete ut alb chars, make shadowblade and play 'easy mode', huh? I'd even help u out with gold...

lol wtf would anybody reroll to any other char than a savage ???

 

[lorric]

Originally posted by donttouchpoopy
duh

This infil is a number of months old.

And you think I've never got past amg?

Riiiiight......

Go sit down now please.

Sorry u never leave the amg solo my mistake

 

[quinthar]

Originally posted by peder
I REMEMBER WHEN I PLAYED BATTLEGROUND 1 WITH ZERKNDESTROY, I WAS UT IN THE FORREST AND I WAS HUNTING SOME ALBSS AND HIPS WHEN I WAS DRAGOONFANGED BY 3 INFILIS AT THE SAME TIME!!! DRAGONASSFANG 8 X 3 = 25 SEC!!

I DIED IN 15-20 SEC!!!

I EVEN WENT BEZERK, BUT I STILL DIED!!

NURF DRAGONASFANGL!!!

Is there a feckin prozac shortage or summat??

 

[Haldar]

Originally posted by donttouchpoopy

The onkly SBs I've seen solo in the past couple of months are Hroft and Nikki.

who is ur infi? u may answer via pm if u prefer.

 

[quinthar]

Originally posted by belth
Not that surprised really, there's a few "manufacturing plants" in Albion that push em out at a steady rate.

tis true, but dont worry many leave and go to Mid to play Savages, they want to play them because they are a difficult class to master, nothing to do with the fact they are grossly overpowered.

 

[-RG-Jaond]

Originally posted by donttouchpoopy
I'll run solo when SBs do, and when buffs have range.

Some sb solo, some duo (like me) some are more, but none are close to what the fotminfils can do.

Not even Pain can when i played with them we where max 5-6 to take out the zerg at amg but many times got outnumbred by you fotmzerglingzzzZZZ

 

[quinthar]

Originally posted by hotrat
all this dragonfang whine now, its been in the game since day 1

Its because SB's got tarred with the same brush as zerkers and got nerfed, I suspect its harder to play an SB now they dont hit like polearmers, hence the calls for making their number 1 nme weaker.

 

[lorric]

Originally posted by quinthar
Its because SB's got tarred with the same brush as zerkers and got nerfed, I suspect its harder to play an SB now they dont hit like polearmers, hence the calls for making their number 1 nme weaker.

exactly what the albs did to the SBs?

 

[Glottis_Xanadu]

Originally posted by lorric
exactly what the albs did to the SBs?

A 10% damage reduction on an SB...
Not sure how you think SB's were doing pre 1.62, but they would normally walk away after 4 hits doing 300+hp damage to their opponents who had little hp after the initial debuff, or end after the initial chase.

Now that they have become mere mortals, they think they should spam these boards asking for a lvl 50 style to become as good as a lvl 5 style (maybe a 1s stun sounds fair as a 5th style in a parry chain for an inf?)
Regards, Glottis

 

[lorric]

Originally posted by Glottis_Xanadu
A 10% damage reduction on an SB...
Not sure how you think SB's were doing pre 1.62, but they would normally walk away after 4 hits doing 300+hp damage to their opponents who had little hp after the initial debuff, or end after the initial chase.

Now that they have become mere mortals, they think they should spam these boards asking for a lvl 50 style to become as good as a lvl 5 style (maybe a 1s stun sounds fair as a 5th style in a parry chain for an inf?)
Regards, Glottis

I never used LA anyway so it didnt bother me ive only just respeced to a SZ and i find it fine but its more than 10% reduction.

 

[Whisperess]

Originally posted by Glottis_Xanadu
A 10% damage reduction on an SB...
Not sure how you think SB's were doing pre 1.62, but they would normally walk away after 4 hits doing 300+hp damage to their opponents who had little hp after the initial debuff, or end after the initial chase.

Now that they have become mere mortals, they think they should spam these boards asking for a lvl 50 style to become as good as a lvl 5 style (maybe a 1s stun sounds fair as a 5th style in a parry chain for an inf?)
Regards, Retard

10% ?

what are you smoking? that has to be some bad shit right there.

 

[old.anubis]

Originally posted by hotrat
all this dragonfang whine now, its been in the game since day 1

no, it wasnt ^^
it didnt work till 1.46-48 (eu had 1.45 then immediately 1.48, so somewhere there inbetween, it definitely wasnt present in 1.45), all the 50 lvl styles/abilities/spells were bugged

- Players should now get their 50th level abilities and spells when they raise to 50th level. Really. We promise this time. Unlike the previous two times when we said we'd fixed this but really hadn't; now, we have. Also, chars who have already attained 50th level will be converted to have their 50th level abilities.

 

[-RG-Jaond]

Originally posted by Glottis_Xanadu
A 10% damage reduction on an SB...
Not sure how you think SB's were doing pre 1.62, but they would normally walk away after 4 hits doing 300+hp damage to their opponents who had little hp after the initial debuff, or end after the initial chase.

Ok from 300dmg to 150-200dmg 10% yeah ok

Originally posted by Glottis_Xanadu
Now that they have become mere mortals, they think they should spam these boards asking for a lvl 50 style to become as good as a lvl 5 style (maybe a 1s stun sounds fair as a 5th style in a parry chain for an inf?)
Regards, Glottis

No why not make it like my lvl 50 style? Ragnarök

And then give infils 2.2 spec points like me so they have to sacrefice something for it to.

 

[BidAccount]

Originally posted by Haldar
who is ur infi? u may answer via pm if u prefer.

Was a few nights ago - grove sw of amg. You'd poped a couple of NS, and being the kind and generous soul I am I went for the one you weren't hitting.

Never fought you with my infil though.

Nikki is cocky though - tends to try and take on amg solo.

 

[Runolaz]

Originally posted by Glottis_Xanadu
Sure, so it is balance cause a slash inf can hit an SB for 160-180hp debuffed, but a thrust inf hitting for 140 or so hp is unbalanced...
Makes sense... love it.

There is a couple of things to be said about this.

Slash Inf: They hit mainhand arround 160-180/70-90 offhand. Usually outdmg a SB with swings of 110-140 mainhand 40-50 offhand - thats with 2 relics. You can kill a Slash Inf with Purge, or you land Env first.

Thrust Inf: Hits arround 110-140 mainhand/70-80 offhand, but they have Dragonfang ---> Stun >> slah dmgoutput imho. You can kill a Thrust Inf if they fail to evade - or you have purge rdy. If they land DF (and they do more often than not) and Purge is down = insta /rel.

Bottomline I would rather meet a INF without stun from DF any day of the week. Why some spec slash when you can get DF I don't know. I guess they feel more skilled when not relying on a "I-win-button".

 

[Runolaz]

Originally posted by belth
Let's see... Reaver, Merc, Scout, Minstrel, Infiltrator - ALL can use it.

Spot the idiot who thinks this game revolves only around stealthers and you've found nalistah.

Yes, they can have it, but then they really have to give up on some other stuff. It's the close to 50% evade chance on a Inf that makes DF so unfair. Merc do not eavde as much as INF, thus is not that owerpowered.

Imho classes like INF/NS that can easily evade should not have a access to a style that gives stun rigth away. I would much rather like to see both INF/NS get their stunstyle made as FG, than SB get a stunstyle like DF.