Infils = 2 button class

[behatch]

Originally posted by -RG-Jaond
Yeah lvl 2x healers and savage is the stlong

almost 3x xDD

 

[-RG-Jaond]

Originally posted by behatch
almost 3x xDD

god nerf ffs

 

[behatch]

Originally posted by -RG-Jaond
god nerf ffs

? think they are geting nerfed fotm 4tehwin,its just dontoochpoopy is scared to admit it

 

[knoll]

hewhotouchesothers are a fotm himself.


only thing he aint a good fotm he sucks at it.

 

[BidAccount]

Originally posted by knoll
hewhotouchesothers are a fotm himself.


only thing he aint a good fotm he sucks at it.

LOL - joo funneee

Like your mummy.

(Too amusing - a painzergling accusing someone else of sucking! Hehehehe)

 

[BidAccount]

Originally posted by behatch
? think they are geting nerfed fotm 4tehwin,its just dontoochpoopy is scared to admit it

Funny

All thru 1.63 you were adamant they were getting nerfed. They didn't.

And all thru 1.64 you were convinced the nerf was coming. It hasn't

And all thru 1.65 you kept posting your usual mindless nerf df gibberish. And now we're at the end of 1.65 guess what. No nerf

You picking up a pattern here?

 

[knoll]

it will come and where will u be then ????
whining that mythic should nerf Thane's cause they are to powerfull.

u see the pattern ?

 

[Haldar]

Originally posted by donttouchpoopy
Funny

All thru 1.63 you were adamant they were getting nerfed. They didn't.

And all thru 1.64 you were convinced the nerf was coming. It hasn't

And all thru 1.65 you kept posting your usual mindless nerf df gibberish. And now we're at the end of 1.65 guess what. No nerf

You picking up a pattern here?

if SBs will cease to point that Dfang is overpowered, the current sorry state of SBs will continue to exist for a long, long period of time. We just do not want to give infis this pleasure

 

[BidAccount]

Think I do...

Knoll posts. gibberish comes out. Yep - think i got it.

They may well nerf Dragonfang, but I think it'll be based on hard data (the basis for the LA reduction) rather than whine posts. And at the moment I see precious little hard data.

So based on the historical SB level of organisation and intelligence I figure any DF review will be somewhere around 2017.

 

[Silenzio]

Originally posted by Haldar
if SBs will cease to point that Dfang is overpowered, the current sorry state of SBs will continue to exist for a long, long period of time. We just do not want to give infis this pleasure

uh?

 

[behatch]

Originally posted by donttouchpoopy
Funny

All thru 1.63 you were adamant they were getting nerfed. They didn't.

And all thru 1.64 you were convinced the nerf was coming. It hasn't

And all thru 1.65 you kept posting your usual mindless nerf df gibberish. And now we're at the end of 1.65 guess what. No nerf

You picking up a pattern here?

did u see a pattern of LA not getting nerfed for 1 year? pwnd

 

[behatch]

Originally posted by Silenzio
uh?

means,more whine = faster nerf,guess why mid classes get nerfed so fast? :/ gimped albs /whine mode 24-7

 

[witte-]

nerf Fatbelly!

 

[Driwen]

Originally posted by donttouchpoopy
Think I do...

Knoll posts. gibberish comes out. Yep - think i got it.

They may well nerf Dragonfang, but I think it'll be based on hard data (the basis for the LA reduction) rather than whine posts. And at the moment I see precious little hard data.

So based on the historical SB level of organisation and intelligence I figure any DF review will be somewhere around 2017.

df review will most likely be along with the complete style review. Anyway you cant proof with hard data that DF is overpowered, as it isn't about damage or defence it is about the stun. You cant get hard data on wether a stun is overpowered, but you can get a feeling about when playing the game or looking at how a fight goes on.
Hell that infils spec thrust just for DF means that there is something wrong? Off course if its true that DF is the only good style in thrust that should be changed and it will most likely in the style review. Most likely thrust will get a boost and DF a nerf.

 

[-RG-Jaond]

tbh cant say infil is a 2bottum class

QB 1
1. dragonfang
2. dragonfang
3. dragonfang
4. dragonfang
5. dragonfang
6. dragonfang
7. dragonfang
8. dragonfang
9. dragonfang
0. dragonfang

QB2

1. sprint
2. stealth
3. /y help solo sb inc
4. /rude
5. /laugh
6. /flex
7. /y help solo sb purged my df

They use atleast 17 bottums

 

[Thamiles]

they equally shitty classes imo.

 

[-Freezingwiz-]

Originally posted by -RG-Jaond
tbh cant say infil is a 2bottum class

QB 1
1. dragonfang
2. dragonfang
3. dragonfang
4. dragonfang
5. dragonfang
6. dragonfang
7. dragonfang
8. dragonfang
9. dragonfang
0. dragonfang

QB2

1. sprint
2. stealth
3. /y help solo sb inc
4. /rude
5. /laugh
6. /flex
7. /y help solo sb purged my df

They use atleast 17 bottums

ermmmm I don´t see vanish !

 

[Haldar]

Originally posted by donttouchpoopy
Think I do...

Knoll posts. gibberish comes out. Yep - think i got it.

They may well nerf Dragonfang, but I think it'll be based on hard data (the basis for the LA reduction) rather than whine posts. And at the moment I see precious little hard data.

So based on the historical SB level of organisation and intelligence I figure any DF review will be somewhere around 2017.

i have seen huge numbers of logs posted by SBs getting beaten by infis, and i have seen a fair amount of logs posted by infis who casually beat SBs....this have become more obvious after adding slow 16.5 weapons in 1.64

logs have been reported. TLs have been notified. Petitions have been sent. Now we have to wait and kick all superiors sometimes to make them work harder.

btw, i've never seen such amount of "we suck!" logs from infi, i've never seen "we perform badly" lines in infi TL report, i've never seen any petitions or feedbacks from infis......and u tell me about our bad organization? rofl.

 

[BidAccount]

Frankly all I can say is good.

But if its anything like 99% of whats on the vnboards you're in trouble. Plus mythics history of reviewing looks at how a class is underperforming/overperforming in realm terms - not how class a fares in a fight with class b.

Make your case for the thrust line and its possible it will be done. Whine that a separate class in another realm beats you and in all likelihood it'll be ignored.

Take heed of what happened to the zerker leader - a request for 15% damage increase with no supporting data or argument, plus repeated gripes about it = ex zerker TL.

 

[BidAccount]

Originally posted by behatch
did u see a pattern of LA not getting nerfed for 1 year? pwnd

LA reduced.

DF untouched.

Your point?

 

[Cawr]

Biggest wajn post eva!

 

[Driwen]

Originally posted by donttouchpoopy
Take heed of what happened to the zerker leader - a request for 15% damage increase with no supporting data or argument, plus repeated gripes about it = ex zerker TL.

when you go yelling at mythic about it, its kinda obvious you get kicked. But they cant kick the players for continualy requesting something and SB TL has almost nothing to do with wether infil gets nerfed. He might point mythic to the logs and he might request to do some tests with infil TL, but its more between mythic and infil TL than with the SB TL. So what ever SB's or any other class community does concerning infils on board, they will hardly get their TL kicked (besides the zerker TL got himself kicked not his class community).

LA reduced.

DF untouched.

Your point?

LA nerf wasnt announced till the patch it happened and there was certainly not pattern. So you cant make the point that DF wont be nerfed, because there is some pattern. LA did to much damage, wasnt nerfed for several patches and then "suddenly" it was. Sort of same might happen for DF, until there has been a real style review you cant be sure wether or not the style gets nerfed.
Besides all the logs and all the facts, I think its wrong that infils go for thrust mainly for one style. This might mean the thrust line is horibly underpowered, but then why would anyone spec in it as you could go slash get a good anytime chain and get the damage type SB's are vulnerable against? So I think DF is overpowered, but the rest of the line might be to weak. So they need to boost the line and weaken DF.

 

[BidAccount]

I would wholeheartedly support a boost to the thrust line - its such a botched mishmash of mostly useless styles.

Dragonfang reduction I can see as reasonable within an overall line improvement. But if DF gets reduced you have to expect the same thing for LW annihalation and Slam. Both easier to pull off, and one at lower spec. Also a minor reduction to diamondback if the stun on DF is lowered to 7 sec or less. I could see as reasonable DF 7secs, FG 5 secs, DB 4 secs.

Thing is - SBs are still going to complain with any duration stun regardless of whether its evade, anytime or chained.

Anyway 1.65 is up in the US and no changes - it'll be wait for the style review and see.

 

[Haldar]

a short remark...dont have much time now.

i have seen zero people complaining about FG
i have seen few people complaining about DB
i have seen a lots of people complaining about Dfang

 

[froler-mid]

make dragonfang 6sec, and gimme AP and im happy.


tytytytyty.

 

[belth]

One thing you SBs are forgetting when comparing LA "nerf" to Dragonfang... Massively overpowered LA affected larger scale fights more than just meaningless 1v1's. Slam and Annihilation are much bigger "issues" than some reactionary stun which only one class can use well.

 

[BidAccount]

Originally posted by Haldar
a short remark...dont have much time now.

i have seen zero people complaining about FG
i have seen few people complaining about DB
i have seen a lots of people complaining about Dfang

Lets get this absolutely clear though - lots of people complaining about dragonfang=

- 2 well known SB boardtrolls
- a number of clueless ex shadowzerk players who rolled a tank with stealth and now want revenge

I don't see lots of informed players complaining, just the same old handful of names with repeated postings.

 

[nalistah]

Originally posted by donttouchpoopy
Lets get this absolutely clear though - lots of people complaining about dragonfang=

- 2 well known SB boardtrolls
- a number of clueless ex shadowzerk players who rolled a tank with stealth and now want revenge

I don't see lots of informed players complaining, just the same old handful of names with repeated postings.

not only on exc QQ

http://forums.barrysworld.com/showthread.php?threadid=85989

its a fact that the style is overpowered on a 50% evading class. Dont try make it sound that its not, it just dont hold

 

[behatch]

Originally posted by froler-mid
make dragonfang 6sec, and gimme AP and im happy.


tytytytyty.

then we would have to whine about AP aswell make dragon fang a chainn and i'm happy....

nerf mercfils

 

[behatch]

nerf merfils
nerf ap
nerf df
nerf infil leather to slash resist ^^
nerf slash infil
nerf friars evade
nerf frairs dmg
nerf friars end regen
nerf friars haste

etc