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Originally posted by gunner440
im full spec and i use 1h about hum 40% of the time and having low dmg type skill would prolly suck +(
Exactly.
Originally posted by gunner440
im full spec and i use 1h about hum 40% of the time and having low dmg type skill would prolly suck +(
Originally posted by vindicat0r
I have Slam < omg this is so useful for so many reasons>
Originally posted by vindicat0r
I can Cross Guard my MA or Assister's < Uber >
Originally posted by vindicat0r
I can Switch Guard During the Fight to help another
Originally posted by vindicat0r
I can Go S/S if I am taking Major damage and help healer's.
Originally posted by vindicat0r
These are just a few reason's ....... There are many more.
Originally posted by gunner440
im full spec and i use 1h about hum 40% of the time and having low dmg type skill would prolly suck +(
Originally posted by Ialkarn
You should try that: 1 pole armsman and 2 mercs:
mercs prevent flight specced,the armsman open whit crippling blow (snare effect,anytime style),your target got snared 100% of the times even if you are disseased he is fucked,why you should need slam?
Originally posted by bracken_woodman
If you got all that landing and he drops then you don't need slam. But slam is another option. It's on a different timer to the snare. There is no reason why you shouldn't have slam. That's the whole point.
Originally posted by Ialkarn
A sucky 1h spec.
Originally posted by bracken_woodman
Based on what? 39+ items/rr takes you over 50...that's the key to maintaining a reasonable spec in 1h terms.
going from 39->50 + items/rr in damage type gives you a little less variation when using pole/2h but quite alot more weaponskill when using 1h (and as a thrust arms your 1h ws is pretty shitty to start with)Originally posted by bracken_woodman
39+ items/rr takes you over 50...that's the key to maintaining a reasonable spec in 1h terms.
Originally posted by Ialkarn
for the same reason ppl spec 50 2h/ pole
more ws, higher cap,more damage.
Originally posted by bracken_woodman
The increase in damage on 1h at say 61 (50+11) is insignificant compared to 1h at 50 (39+11). Given the situations when you would be using 1h (and given that those situations are not primarily about damage) it's certainly not enough for you to still maintain that the hybrid spec is not valid.
Originally posted by stighelmer
The weaponskill is ofc needed to land your 1h hits. But it has been shown (cannot seem to find the thread) that it does also affect your ability to hit with shield...
Hence a too low weaponskill (like 30-summin would be imo) would make it hard to land slam when needed. I would rather trust to use my pole styles where my weapon skill is maxed.
Originally posted by stighelmer
weaponskill != damage per hit
its the chance you have to hit at all.
pretty important
Yes, but more WS is better. If you do not feel the need for slam in RvR then getting it at the cost of less WS (and damage) when using 1h and a small but still existing difference in damage output when using pole would not make sense.Originally posted by bracken_woodman
39+11+rr gets you over 50. That's the important bit. Providing you get over that then you wont have a problem landing slam. I never did. Below that and yes I agree.
Originally posted by stighelmer
Yes, but more WS is better. If you do not feel the need for slam in RvR then getting it at the cost of less WS (and damage) when using 1h and a small but still existing difference in damage output when using pole would not make sense.
But as you pointed out, it's all about how you choose to play. But I like the constructive discussion
Originally posted by stighelmer
Oh and btw, I am off to bed now.
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Originally posted by Ialkarn
You should try that: 1 pole armsman and 2 mercs:
mercs prevent flight specced,the armsman open whit crippling blow (snare effect,anytime style),your target got snared 100% of the times even if you are disseased he is fucked,why you should need slam?
Originally posted by Puppetmistress
To prevent the target from using MOC/insta's ?
Or say a warrior is guarding your target (healer for instance). Instead of wasting alot of time bypassing the warrior his 50+17+MoB3 shield defense guard you could switch to S/S, run behind him and give him a slam.
Slammed warriors dont guard very good
Im not very experienced with armsman, but from what I understand in the discussion the only thing you loose is abit lower weaponskill when using 1h.
So exchange abit lower weaponskill in 1h weapon (while your primary way of dealing damage is 2H as you said before) for an anytime 9 second stun..
Ah well, Im no expert, but 9 sec anytime stun = very good imo.
Originally posted by Puppetmistress
To prevent the target from using MOC/insta's ?
Or say a warrior is guarding your target (healer for instance). Instead of wasting alot of time bypassing the warrior his 50+17+MoB3 shield defense guard you could switch to S/S, run behind him and give him a slam.
Slammed warriors dont guard very good
Originally posted by Ialkarn
I think 23 shield make you as flexible as a 42 shield specced tank.
Originally posted by stighelmer
I am currently 50/50/23/17. I use back stun like 1-2 times per night and that is basically the amount of times I felt the need to use slam when I was hybrid spec.
Originally posted by Ialkarn
Yes its one of those moments where slam is helpfull,but a good caster uses moc only when purge is up.
also ias warrior you are going to save purge for melee stun only (or root in rare cases) ,like every determination tank.
and a good assisting groups can drop pretty fast everything,timers or not. [/B]
Originally posted by Puppetmistress
Wrong. Purge is low on the RA list for a druid because he has Grouppurge, MOC, RP, MCL2 etc etc as essentials too.
Most druids I know (unless very high RR) only got GP and no Personal Purge. Now suddenly a druid can go MOC where he has no personal purge (up).
For instance my druid is 6L1 and he dont have personal purge. Costs for RA's are so expensive, either go Grouppurge --> Purge or Grouppurge --> MOC route and then the traject from MOC --> Personal Purge is pretty high too.
Also alot of younger PBAoE' ers do have MOC but no Purge because they rely more on GP. Pretty common to find PBAoE' ers to have MOC at RR3 and no Purge in Hibernia
True, but what if he used his Purge before and its down?
You cannot focus on RA's all the time, I think an anytime 9 sec stun is not bad to have.
If you want to sacrifice WS for it is personal preference ofcourse, but to do slam off as 'not needed' I think is a bit wrong.
Originally posted by Puppetmistress
You cannot focus on RA's all the time, I think an anytime 9 sec stun is not bad to have.