Harvey Weinstein

[Scouse]

No, I just don't have the time to provide links to people who are being "respectful" and "fine" about Louis CK despite being asked by two different people on three (sorry, four) separate occasions.

Fixed...

Edit: And what @Wij said.

 

[Hawkwind]

So you're suggesting that because people are 'left-wing' they get away with crimes like this?

Please.

No but the US media does, specifically CNN, NY Times....
Then Fox New and Breibart will crucify him, polarised america fed by a polarised political media

 

[Wij]

No but the US media does, specifically CNN, NY Times....
Then Fox New and Breibart will crucify him, polarised america fed by a polarised political media

Buh?

Harvey Weinstein accusers now more than 40

Where's the apologia on CNN? I've not seen it?

 

[Raven]

No but the US media does, specifically CNN, NY Times....
Then Fox New and Breibart will crucify him, polarised america fed by a polarised political media

But the thing with dumb, usually "inexperienced" people these days is that the first question they ask is if you are a "liberal" or not, despite them not actually knowing what true liberalism actually means.

If you don't conform to the extremely narrow popular view then you just get a torrent of bullshit, name calling, misquotes, accused of agendas and whatever bollocks that might be swirling around their head at any given time.

Its pretty funny.

 

[Hawkwind]

Yep, and you don't agree with that narrow view of liberalism then your labelled an "alt right nazi"! It is truely fucking crazy there right now. Going to take years to fix this.

 

[Scouse]

@Raven & @Hawkwind - you're talking (vaguely) about liberalism after making spurious accusations of some people being apologists and showing "respect" or "being fine" with some of the accused based on whether they're left-leaning or not, and you're repeating these things - but not actually providing anything to show that's potentially even mildly correct.

At least @Wij is backing up what he's saying with links and examples. I don't recognise your reality - I'm not saying it's not actually true either - I just would like you to show me, rather than just whine about "liberalism" being a problem (rather than people committing sexual abuse), without backing it up...

 

[DaGaffer]

No but the US media does, specifically CNN, NY Times....
Then Fox New and Breibart will crucify him, polarised america fed by a polarised political media

Where are CNN or the NYT giving Louis CK or Spacey or Weinstein a free pass? If anything these are the outlets that broke these stories. The Guardian certainly isn't soft soaping what they did.

 

[Wij]

Oooh:

McConnell calls on Roy Moore to end Senate campaign following accusations of sexual misconduct

But Moore has been calling McConnell the devil for months so maybe not surprising...

 

[Raven]

Stupid fucks are smashing their coffee machines now.

 

[Wij]

Stupid fucks are smashing their coffee machines now.

Yep. Hannity says 14 year old girl consented to being felt up. Advertiser says 'I'm not comfortable with this right now thanks'. Lots of people say 'How dare you stop advertising' and smash up their own property.

What a time to be alive.

 

[Scouse]

I had to look it all up, had no idea what you guys were on about.

And people in this thread are complaining about liberals??!


Edit: Love the last line in this article:

“Sorry, I was off Twitter for a while,” ... “It appears that people are destroying coffee machines to show their support of child molesters?”

 

[Wij]

Locals Were Troubled by Roy Moore’s Interactions with Teen Girls at the Gadsden Mall

 

[Wij]

And HW seems to have lost control of his hands in his old age :/

George Bush Snr 'groped 16-year-old girl'

 

[SilverHood]

Makes you wonder about the child actors that went off the rails. Was it just the fame and pressure, or did they get the Weinstein Company special treatment.

 

[Hawkwind]

I actually had some 20 something SJW try to lecture me on Muslims, wasn't until the guy sat next him told that I'd lived and worked in the Middle East for 20 years that he shut up. Know it all bunch of self righteous pricks, that actually know next to nothing.

I had to look it all up, had no idea what you guys were on about.

And people in this thread are complaining about liberals??!


Edit: Love the last line in this article:

@Raven & @Hawkwind - you're talking (vaguely) about liberalism after making spurious accusations of some people being apologists and showing "respect" or "being fine" with some of the accused based on whether they're left-leaning or not, and you're repeating these things - but not actually providing anything to show that's potentially even mildly correct.

At least @Wij is backing up what he's saying with links and examples. I don't recognise your reality - I'm not saying it's not actually true either - I just would like you to show me, rather than just whine about "liberalism" being a problem (rather than people committing sexual abuse), without backing it up...

Was meant to be a more general comment on the polar opposites that America is divided down now. Never been like this before at least not since the Civil war. It really does not take long to find examples on google/youtube from both right and left to see examples of the way news media like CNN (left example) covers politically motivated news with anchors like Don Lemon. Type in "CNN fake news" and see the crap they generated around Trump and recent visits to Japan etc. Yes, I know both sides are at fault with Fox and Breibart equally full of BS, it's a complete mess in the with the media on both side fueling it. At lot of friends and co-workers there are really worried about how this can fixed and even if it can be fixed in the foreseeable future.

The comment regards SJW's, just showed me personally what idiots they are and yes I know that is the extreme version of liberalism that has infected many US campuses. Just hilarious when people interview the clueless idiots, many examples on Youtube, go look. Or try talking to them yourself as I did recently at our California HQ. A conversation over lunch with a new hire millennial. know it all, lecturing me how wonderful Islam is. He did not like it when I called him out on his so called facts, religion of peace and great for women... Common example from what I am told and its the way they have been taught to think in higher education.

 

[Gwadien]

I actually had some 20 something SJW try to lecture me on Muslims, wasn't until the guy sat next him told that I'd lived and worked in the Middle East for 20 years that he shut up. Know it all bunch of self righteous pricks, that actually know next to nothing.

Was meant to be a more general comment on the polar opposites that America is divided down now. Never been like this before at least not since the Civil war. It really does not take long to find examples on google/youtube from both right and left to see examples of the way news media like CNN (left example) covers politically motivated news with anchors like Don Lemon. Type in "CNN fake news" and see the crap they generated around Trump and recent visits to Japan etc. Yes, I know both sides are at fault with Fox and Breibart equally full of BS, it's a complete mess in the with the media on both side fueling it. At lot of friends and co-workers there are really worried about how this can fixed and even if it can be fixed in the foreseeable future.

The comment regards SJW's, just showed me personally what idiots they are and yes I know that is the extreme version of liberalism that has infected many US campuses. Just hilarious when people interview the clueless idiots, many examples on Youtube, go look. Or try talking to them yourself as I did recently at our California HQ. A conversation over lunch with a new hire millennial. know it all, lecturing me how wonderful Islam is. He did not like it when I called him out on his so called facts, religion of peace and great for women... Common example from what I am told and its the way they have been taught to think in higher education.

Nice experience in the most conservative part of the planet.

Can easily apply that to a couple of billion people yeah.

 

[Bodhi]

Nice experience in the most conservative part of the planet.

Can easily apply that to a couple of billion people yeah.

True. Let's listen to someone who lives in Leicester instead!

 

[Raven]

Muslims are fine so long as their ridiculous ideas about personal freedom and choice are kept away from society. Its funny when people say x country is moderate, they allow women to drive and gays don't get thrown off buildings, just lashed.

 

[CorNokZ]

A new industry is going to evolve with CGI artists removing actors from films.

American Beauty will reach even higher levels of weirdness

 

[Hawkwind]

Nice experience in the most conservative part of the planet.

Can easily apply that to a couple of billion people yeah.

Well it is one thing to claim that there are good Muslims, which there are and that they are the vast majority. It is completely different to make out that it is all wonderful and there are no issues whatsoever with their religion. Even most Muslims I interact with back in UAE are aware that there are huge issues with their religion and the way that it is misused and misrepresented by a minority. The problem is that the positives don't get airtime and negatives are seen globally every week. There is actually a huge effort with some prominent Muslims like Queen Noor trying get people on social media and the web to create a more positive vibe, change the narrative. I wish them luck.

 

[Hawkwind]

Gotta love Bill Burr


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUb0tAW4CHc

 

[Ormorof]

American Beauty will reach even higher levels of weirdness

Im hoping for a nicholas cage edition

 

[Job]

Well it is one thing to claim that there are good Muslims, which there are and that they are the vast majority. It is completely different to make out that it is all wonderful and there are no issues whatsoever with their religion. Even most Muslims I interact with back in UAE are aware that there are huge issues with their religion and the way that it is misused and misrepresented by a minority. The problem is that the positives don't get airtime and negatives are seen globally every week. There is actually a huge effort with some prominent Muslims like Queen Noor trying get people on social media and the web to create a more positive vibe, change the narrative. I wish them luck.

The problem for me is that Islam is fundamentally racist, while we...the least racist people on the planet have to give them concessions, becayse they suffer from racism.

 

[DaGaffer]

The problem for me is that Islam is fundamentally racist, while we...the least racist people on the planet have to give them concessions, becayse they suffer from racism.

Islam is not "fundamentally racist". Its lots of shit things, but its only racist to the extent it takes from the Old Testament, which also applies to Christianity (Sons of Ham etc.) Islam is discriminatory, but all religions are that too to a greater or lesser extent, even the hippies favourite, Buddhism. Don't want discrimination? Don't give religions any say in anything in public life.

 

[Job]

Its possibly THE most racist religion/cult/ideology on the planet...it even has specific words for non believers and a huge list of gory things to do with them alongside another list of how unhuman they are.
Which is ...of course..the exact definition of racist.
If you go to muslim countries the racism against you is epic level.
To suggest they are not is farcical...we are a shining light of tolerance in the world...or maybe we should start showing adverts on TV with a Pakistani muslim kissing an Indian girl....now that would be fun.
And dont try to water down racism with 'discriminatory'..I mean really, talk about PC speak.

 

[Raven]

You're mixing race, culture and religion up, again.

 

[Scouse]

Which is ...of course..the exact definition of racist.

No, no it isn't.

There's a difference between racism and discrimination. Job in "doesn't get it" shocker.

 

[Job]

You're mixing race, culture and religion up, again.

No..youre making the classic error if presuming racism is purely based on race.

 

[Job]

No, no it isn't.

There's a difference between racism and discrimination. Job in "doesn't get it" shocker.

If you discriminate against an individual from an identifiable group based solely on them being a member of that group...thats racism 101.
If you discriminate against someone because they are annoying..thats discrimination.
If Muslims discriminate against Indians...thats racism.
Job gets it shocker.

 

[Raven]

Muslims don't discriminate against Indians, they discriminate against non-muslims. Some Pakistanis discriminate against Indians. Not the same thing at all.

You're an idiot.