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The funny thing is that with these MP allegations, they just aren't as murky as you would expect.

"Squeezed my knee" "touched my bottom while hugging" You would probably need a panel of football pundits to watch the action replay from various different angles to agree to disagree anyway, even if there was magical footage of it.

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I can only imagine where that thumb has been.
 

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Its hardly a surprise that an ordinary person gets put in a place of power, has their ego tossed off everyday by a fawning posse, then goes on to abuse the position.
Power corrupts..its just as much our fault as theirs.
 

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And yet probably the vast majority of actors don't go on to abuse their position. Predatory people do predatory things.
 

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John Majors press secretary was on R4 this morning, he pointed out the exact same sleaze was around in his time.
Blair bigged it all up to help bring down the tories, one shocking story was an MP caught drunk snogging a researcher...consenually.
 

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The whole thing is a fucking mess.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-41931331http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-41931331

The party can't tell him what he has done wrong, the police can't tell him what he has done wrong yet he is suspended since last Friday for doing "something" I mean, he looks shifty an'all, being ginger, and a Tory but ffs, is it not about time people actually knew what they were being accused of before we kicked up a fuss?

These people are technically running the country ffs, isn't it about time they started behaving like adults?
 

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Hugh Grant has said hes not going to say a thing because of what he got up to in the 90s.
 

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Source? I googled "Hugh grant sex pest" and just got some Daily Fail bullshit and a load of stuff about him banging a hooker in his car.
 

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This has been swirling around for years, but then if you actually look at these "incidents", bit weird, but not exactly bluebeard; one of the incidents was on the phone ffs "oh no, he's having a wank while I'm talking to him, what will I do? I know, I'll put the phone down". And there's not even the abuse of power argument, he was just another comedian on the same circuit as these women. I dunno, this would seem a bit more, "point and laugh at the fucking weirdo" than "oh noes, the trauma!" to me.
 

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One was on the phone, one he got his wang out for someone, another he asked if they fancied popping back to his room to watch him knock one out.

Its not exactly normal behaviour and I would say it certainly falls on the dodgy side of the line.
 

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One was on the phone, one he got his wang out for someone, another he asked if they fancied popping back to his room to watch him knock one out.

Its not exactly normal behaviour and I would say it certainly falls on the dodgy side of the line.

Yeah, its not "nice" but its not sexual assault either. Bit like that Jonathan Pie vid says, the danger here is trivialising real sexual abuse with trivial nonsense.
 

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Yup, but trivialising is exactly what we do, with everything, even the weather (!). It makes people feel included and gives them something to talk about.

Whether people think that if they stop talking the darkness of their dull lives will get them, I have no idea but genuine assault is getting swamped by dick heads who need to grow up a bit.
 

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To be fair to Louis CK (who I actually really dislike) - if you pop back to someone's room after drinks propositioning can occur, perhaps to even be expected?

Same happened to me and a mate who were just popping back to a bird's flat to 'grab some things' on our way to 'another party'. Got back to her room, she started getting undressed, made it plain that she wanted double-ending. Neither of us were up for it as we had partners (though I was sorely tempted to tell my mate to fuck off as she was hot).

That's not radically innapropriate sexual behaviour. Unless you're a man, ofc, at which point it's harrassment. Especially if you're ugly and ginger. I mean, if Brad Pitt had got his cock out and started masturbating in front of them would they have been harrassed or turned on?
 

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That thought crossed my mind when I was reading about that ex-security guard who accused Mariah Carey of "sexual harrassment". She did sexy things, knowing he could see. Oh you poor thing.
 
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That thought crossed my mind when I was reading about that ex-security guard who accused Mariah Carey of "sexual harrassment". She did sexy things, knowing he could see. Oh you poor thing.
He should complain again. Get some perspective on a lot of this guff...
 

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