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So, I was pleased for Rebecca Adlington, until this crap from her (again):
Big-Nose-Becky said:
"We said, 'Yes! Girl power!' We were celebrating the fact that a girl got it...it's great to see the girls doing so amazingly...Males have ruled the roost for a long time and it was about time we got involved.

Oh fuck off. Swim against the men if that's what it's all about for you. You don't see the men going "yay! men power!! thank fuck we've not got tits eh?"

Also:
Probably-Bigger-Than-Deeb's-Conk said:
"Hopefully that will encourage the younger generation and show that women can be feminine and be involved in sport"

Women can be feminine and be involved in sport. You tho, Becks, look a bit like a man :)
 

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Oh fuck off. Swim against the men if that's what it's all about for you. You don't see the men going "yay! men power!! thank fuck we've not got tits!" :)

Actually the reason for that is the same reason why you can't be proud to be a middle-aged white man. No opressive past means you can't be proud of your achievements becuse there's no obstacle to overcome. Which would suggest that middle aged white men have no problems and as such are superior, but lets glide past that :D
 

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Fucking nightmare journey into London this morning. Waterloo and Shitty line was rammed and I couldn't get on the first train.
 

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Scouse said:
A) They should give tickets to residents of the local area and schoolchildren.
B) How about not treating the public, who've paid for it, like shit?

Ticket to the 100m final, bought today on the website, 700 quid. It's Olympics for the rich. Period.

For the rich hence the army getting free tickets. I have decided you will never be happy if they gave the tickets to locals you would say why not the homeless, if they gave them to the homeless you would say why not dying children. The army are there they are the easiest groups of people to give them too. Giving them to locals would mean setting up a lottery to make it fair.
 

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I'm trying to rise above it, but hat font is driving me mad, there must be a billion fonts more suitable than that, it's just so cheap looking, something a primary school teacher would pick for the school fete.
I tell you it will be the one thing everyone laughs at in years to come.
 

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Almost perfect journey in this morning.

Train was delayed outside of Ashford, but made up the time before we got to StPs. Lots of people waiting in StPs to get on the train. But I now understand why they have barriers down the middle. People getting off the train stay on the side of the barriers closest to the train. Those waiting to board stand on the other side of the barriers. Meant for no problems getting off the platform, no bumping into tourists trying to board.

Down into the tube, no problems there either.


In the office tho, I can hear one guy in the IT team constantly moaning and moaning about the opening ceremony. Everyone hes talking to is disagreeing with him in everything he says, so he moves on to moan at someone else about it. I think I've heard "I'm ashamed to be British" about 10 maybe 12 times now.

Everyone else enjoyed it. I liked it was lively and sarcastically funny, enjoyed it all..cept the athletes walk out, took too long. Liked the Torch idea with each country having part of the torch, that was pretty clever.
 

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Actually the reason for that is the same reason why you can't be proud to be a middle-aged white man. No opressive past means you can't be proud of your achievements becuse there's no obstacle to overcome. Which would suggest that middle aged white men have no problems and as such are superior, but lets glide past that :D

Women have been involved in the Olympics, in their own events, for ages.

We had a female prime minister 30 years ago. If women, in the least oppressive for women country on the planet, still feel that they have to harp on about men - even when they're not in competition with them - then they can fuck off.

If she was bemoaning about failing to not get a top CEO job at a major corporation then I *might* have sympathy. Maybe. But she's not. She's in a girls sport competing against girls.

Men have fuck all to do with it.

So she can take her big fuck off nose and her mahoosive sponsorship moneys and cunt the fuck off.
 

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For the rich hence the army getting free tickets. I have decided you will never be happy if they gave the tickets to locals you would say why not the homeless, if they gave them to the homeless you would say why not dying children. The army are there they are the easiest groups of people to give them too. Giving them to locals would mean setting up a lottery to make it fair.

Rubbish. :)

The only reason they are giving 'em to the army is because, as you said, it's easy.

It's almost as easy to give the tickets to schoolchildren - you know, create a longing for sporting achievement and all that. Legacy. Encouraging healthy lifestyles etc.

The Olympics is supposed to be exactly about that. They've been harping on about it ever since we won the bid.

But no, they're plugging their PR gap in the easiest way possible - drafting in squaddies.
 

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Rubbish. :)

The only reason they are giving 'em to the army is because, as you said, it's easy.

It's almost as easy to give the tickets to schoolchildren - you know, create a longing for sporting achievement and all that. Legacy. Encouraging healthy lifestyles etc.

The Olympics is supposed to be exactly about that. They've been harping on about it ever since we won the bid.

But no, they're plugging their PR gap in the easiest way possible - drafting in squaddies.

I'm assuming the squaddies are the ones who are off-duty from taking over from G4S so you could also look at it as a reward/apology to the squaddies for drafting them in to guard the games!
 

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Forgot how many shitty sports there are at the Olympics, bring back some of the old school stuff imo, where's the tug of war? That would be completely awesome.

How the fuck is Horse Dressage a sport?

Bring back Town Planning and Poetry!
 

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I'm assuming the squaddies are the ones who are off-duty from taking over from G4S so you could also look at it as a reward/apology to the squaddies for drafting them in to guard the games!

Squaddies get paid by the taxpayer. If we've decided that we need them to do a job in securing the nation then why should we apologise or reward them for it other than give them their wages? It's a cushy number anyway - all the totty they get to gawp at whilst on duty.

Either way - you've not addressed any of the points about why not give the tickets to the schoolchildren. There's a small chance of inspiring some of them to a better life - which is apparently much of what the Olympics is about.

Nope, it's a cynical PR-fix.
 

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Finally got around to watching the opening ceremony last night. Damn you Danny Boyle for manipulating my atrophied patriotism gland!! Damn you to Hell!!

I thought it was quite good.

(I will also point out to my children when they're older that Jerusalem is allowed to stir their blood just as much as The Fields of Athenry, and they'll just have to live with the contradiction).
 

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Just saw the Italian volleyball team ( the men).
Not a bad outfit, except for the permanent flames coming out of their arses.
 

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Rubbish. :)

The only reason they are giving 'em to the army is because, as you said, it's easy.

It's almost as easy to give the tickets to schoolchildren - you know, create a longing for sporting achievement and all that. Legacy. Encouraging healthy lifestyles etc.

The Olympics is supposed to be exactly about that. They've been harping on about it ever since we won the bid.

But no, they're plugging their PR gap in the easiest way possible - drafting in squaddies.
Why was that school given more tickets than our school? Why did that school get better tickets that our school? Who is going to collect all the permission slips from the parents so the kids can go? School is closed and the teachers are on holiday so who is going to supervise the kids? Who is going to organise food? Who is going to organise the parents collecting the kids from these events?

Now depending on if you meant giving school kids free tickets to go with their family or with the school there are a hoops to jump though and it is my no means as easy and as cheap as handing them over to the army and telling them it is their problem.
 

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It's almost as easy to give the tickets to schoolchildren - you know, create a longing for sporting achievement and all that. Legacy. Encouraging healthy lifestyles etc.
So lets address it then.

Last I checked it's summer holidays so how exactly would you accomplish this as easily?

Additionally what happens when you give tickets to school children who's parents are working and then cannot take them so you still end up with an empty seat?

I don't disagree that giving them to the Armed Forces makes all the cuntslabs that fucked up the ticket sales look better but who cares, they're always trying to make themselves look better.
 

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Scouse Not the point there, but it's a bit off topic so let's not go that much into it ;)

Just let the women be proud, it's not xactly against men, just proud of their accomplishment.
 

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Quote from the BBC website
But she praised an announcement by Lord Coe - who has said Olympics venues are "stuffed" with sports fans - that some empty seats would be filled by servicemen and women, as well as local students and teachers.

So they might be handing out some to local people.
 

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Sorry to disagree with everyone it seems.

But I think the armed forces deserve it.

They are out there fighting a shitty war in a shitty country, where their "friends" can blow them up or gun them down at random. They finally get home (the ones stationed in Germany here, although i am sure the others have similar problems) get to see family...no wait they are called on yet again to do something that's not actually their job. Just like covering fire fighters strikes.

Our armed forces always step up when we need them, its time they got some leisure time.


Actually really sad now. These people are complained about by a unloving public, crapped on by politicians looking for a nice paycheck and sent off to some crappy hell hole. They didn't ask for this, but they should reap the rewards of a country they fight for once in a goddam while.
 

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Rubbish. :)

The only reason they are giving 'em to the army is because, as you said, it's easy.

It's almost as easy to give the tickets to schoolchildren - you know, create a longing for sporting achievement and all that. Legacy. Encouraging healthy lifestyles etc.

The Olympics is supposed to be exactly about that. They've been harping on about it ever since we won the bid.

But no, they're plugging their PR gap in the easiest way possible - drafting in squaddies.

School holidays mate, no way to organise giving them to the kids or they would. Has been discussed at length this morning on the radio and basically the Armed Forces were the obvious choice as they are off duty and billeted nearby. Nowt wrong with tossing them a bone, they fucking earn it.
 

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Of course as a human being I feel sympathy for the armed forces, though sympathy doesn't really help, they are fighting pointless wars and being sent on foot patrols in fatigues for whatever goddam reason to be picked off by the locals, then quietly forgotten about when they get their legs blown off.
But as yet it isn't compulsory to join the armed forces
 

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I understand the point of view that soldiers do a relatively thankless job, but at the end of the day it is their job which they get paid to do and which they chose to sign up for themselves. There are plenty of other people out there doing equally as thankless (though admittedly less dangerous) jobs who aren't being 'thrown a bone' in terms of being given tickets - charity sector workers and nurses are just two obvious ones that spring to mind.
 

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I understand the point of view that soldiers do a relatively thankless job, but at the end of the day it is their job which they get paid to do and which they chose to sign up for themselves. There are plenty of other people out there doing equally as thankless (though admittedly less dangerous) jobs who aren't being 'thrown a bone' in terms of being given tickets - charity sector workers and nurses are just two obvious ones that spring to mind.

As stated on the radio this morning, for the soliders it is a case of giving tickets to an officer who will then dispense them to soldiers as they go off duty, no security checks are needed. To allocate them to civilians is a bit more difficult, schoolkids aren't in school and most students have finished for the summer so the education establishments aren't manned adequately to cope with ticketing. As for NHS and public servants, the understanding is that they are going to be getting tickets later in the week when systems are put in place to get them out securely. They can't just magic this all up in one day, those empty seats are a dynamic commodity and were allocated elsewhere, LOCOG are now checking who hasn't attended and why so they can free up the remaining tickets if those people aren't coming.
 

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Charity sector workers and nurses are just two obvious ones that spring to mind.
I agree but there is no way to do this a short notice as you can not make it fiar without some sort of lottery. If every nurse in London put their name down then they would all need to go in a pot with the shifts they are working a computer can then pick them at random and then someone can give them a call to give them the good news. If they are doing overtime or can not show up the process needs to start again. It is the same with Police and Fire Service as well. It is a shame for everyone else but it is the only fair way.
 

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As stated on the radio this morning, for the soliders it is a case of giving tickets to an officer who will then dispense them to soldiers as they go off duty, no security checks are needed. To allocate them to civilians is a bit more difficult, schoolkids aren't in school and most students have finished for the summer so the education establishments aren't manned adequately to cope with ticketing. As for NHS and public servants, the understanding is that they are going to be getting tickets later in the week when systems are put in place to get them out securely. They can't just magic this all up in one day, those empty seats are a dynamic commodity and were allocated elsewhere, LOCOG are now checking who hasn't attended and why so they can free up the remaining tickets if those people aren't coming.

All fair enough, but I'm more than sure that if tickets were allocated to schools there would be pleny of teachers willing to organise trips out so they and their students could see something at the Olympics. At the end of the day the problem really lies not in how it is being handled now, but that this wasn't handled months ago.
 

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Yeah, totally agree.

This isn't a problem that is exclusive to the Olympics, it happens at international football matches too. How many times has Wembley had empty seats. It's not as if you have to go far at half time or before the match. All the food and crap is very close to the exits, it's actually a very well designed stadium for pushing customers through.
 

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All fair enough, but I'm more than sure that if tickets were allocated to schools there would be pleny of teachers willing to organise trips out so they and their students could see something at the Olympics. At the end of the day the problem really lies not in how it is being handled now, but that this wasn't handled months ago.
My missus is a teacher, they've already handed out tickets for schools, she's taking kids from her school to see something at the paralympics (can't remember what).

I'd assume the problem here is that they can't simply re-sell the corporate allocations as effectively they've been paid for by the sponsors. Maybe McDonalds should start giving them away with happy meals instead? ;)
 

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Fucking nightmare journey into London this morning. Waterloo and Shitty line was rammed and I couldn't get on the first train.
Isn't it always? I Personally found it quicker to go Bakerloo -> E&C -> Northern Line...but that is traveling to old Street.

Always quieter, always quicker than the drain.
 

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