FH Fitness Thread

[leggy]

This

Spoiler

Distance
4.75
mi

Duration
0:39:58
h : m : s

Avg. Pace
8:25
min/mi

Avg. Speed
7.12
mph

Burned
581
calories

Climb
130
ft

and this

Spoiler

Distance
3.09
mi

Duration
0:25:00
h : m : s

Avg. Pace
8:06
min/mi

Avg. Speed
7.41
mph

Burned
372
calories

Climb
89
ft

Good job. Just got my 5k time to under 24 mins. Aiming for 22.

However, I've just started to develop bad achilles pain which is no doubt a result of a major speed increased coupled with a spacky gait. Might have to rest it for a few weeks which upsets me greatly.

 

[TdC]

No worries Gohan, I'm not insulted or anything. Also, I don't tell you everything re future plans etc, or any details of my past and current eating patterns. What I'm using it for is what it was designed for, a quick win. Besides this I am also back on the bike and in the gym.

 

[ECA]

Also massively unhealthy for cholesterol, heart, lack of vitimans and minerals, fibre etc.

Sorry but you're illinformed.
LCHF is good for cholesterol levels, and there is no lack of vitamins/fibre. ( unless for some reason you're retarded and dont eat vegetables ).


Such ill reputed people such as new scientist:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn5003-longest-scientific-study-yet-backs-atkins-diet.html

Stanford University:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/06/AR2007030601166.html

American Medical Association : http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1108558

New England Journal of Medicine: http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa0708681

International Journal of Cancer: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ijc.22225/abstract

But just ignore those faddy junk scientists?

Quote from new scientist article:

Compared with the low-fat group, Atkins dieters also had lower levels of triglycerides, potentially harmful blood fats which can trigger heart disease. Concentrations of beneficial high density cholesterols (HDLs) also held up better in the Atkins group. And these favourable changes remained till the end of the study, suggesting that there might be lasting benefits.

Quote from stanford study article:

The latest findings add to a growing body of evidence that the high-protein Atkins diet does not cause the harmful heart and artery effects long feared by many researchers.
Women who followed the Atkins plan had a significant drop in triglycerides, one of the unhealthful blood fats linked to a higher risk of heart disease. Their blood pressure also dropped the most of the four groups, a finding that the researchers think may relate to their slightly greater weight loss. Those in the Atkins group also experienced the largest increase in high-density lipoprotein (HDL), a protective type of cholesterol.
Most important, the Atkins group did not develop the soaring levels of low-density lipoprotein (LDL) that some experts have thought might result from eating a diet rich in saturated fat and cholesterol found in fatty cuts of meat, butter and cream. High levels of LDL are a major risk factor for heart disease. The study found that while LDL rose slightly for those in the Atkins group, their blood levels did not differ statistically from the other groups.

 

[Nate]

Good job. Just got my 5k time to under 24 mins. Aiming for 22.

However, I've just started to develop bad achilles pain which is no doubt a result of a major speed increased coupled with a spacky gait. Might have to rest it for a few weeks which upsets me greatly.

Definitely rest mate, I've had ligament pain in my knee and have just stopped since I couldn't run on it half way through my 40min route. Feeling a lot better for it now.

 

[leggy]

Sources

Quote from same source:

This new evidence confirms that levels of 'bad' cholesterol worsen in a substantial number of low-carbohydrate dieters

Plus, nowhere does it mention effects on the brain which uses only glucose for fuel. 6 months is not a long term study and not sufficient for proving anything. It merely hints that it's not as bad as the naysayers would have you believe.

 

[TdC]

tbh I'd never do this for more than 4 months. mostly because I know a few hard core atkins people and they're all wierd as fuck tbh.

 

[Yoni]

With dieting it is all about finding something that works for you (not what works for TdC, Scouse, Leggy,Yoni, Eca etc). We all have different bodies, different hormones, some have allergies or intolerances which need to be managed!

For me protein works if I am not strength training, however I avoid many traditional carbs (bread, white rice, pasta, sugar, sweets), primarily because they make me ill ;/ and secondly because for me they are ridiculously addictive..... More so than coke (trust me I can make this analogy). So now I am eating again I eat lots of lean protein and get carbs from oats, sweet potatoes, brown rice, avocado, pulses etc ( ie I work best on a fast oxidiser diet 20% carb, 50% protein and 30% fat).

Others may perform better as a slow oxidiser (60% carbs, 25% protein 15% fat) or balanced (40% carb 30% protein and 30% fat).

Several facts are certain.... The energy equation is valid and ridiculously low fat diets are really not that good for you as it will effect your HDL cholesterol (although to improve it avoid trans fat and refined carbs).

If you can't be bothered to wade through that lot, the upshot is stop dissing each others diets (unless obviously unhealthy ie the Big Mac and fries diet or swallow a tape worm) and continue to educate yourselves via each others experiences (this is a great thread for both inspiration and information )

 

[ECA]

Quote from same source:

Actually no - the counter opinion that you're quoting isnt from stanford it's this:

from But critics highlight some negative findings from the Duke study. "This new evidence confirms that levels of 'bad' cholesterol worsen in a substantial number of low-carbohydrate dieters," said Neal Barnard of the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, a vegan lobby group in Washington DC.

Some quack they found to provide false equivalency.
He's selling a lot of books on low fat http://www.nealbarnard.org/books/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neal_D._Barnard

tldr, he's not exactly unbiased in this regard

He's got about 20 various "diet books" out there that are low fat meta psycho babble.


Anyway, as Yoni says - read up yourself and make your own decisions.

 

[rynnor]

All diets reflect an unhealthy relationship with food - its all about sustainability - which none of these extreme unbalanced diets like the atkins are.

Yo-yo dieting is actually worse for you than never dieting because over the long term you decrease your muscle mass and increase your fat percentage.

Edit: And theres lots of medical concern about the Atkins type diets - heres one by the American Heart Association - http://www.atkinsexposed.org/atkins/100/american_heart_association.htm

 

[gohan]

Sorry but you're illinformed.
LCHF is good for cholesterol levels, and there is no lack of vitamins/fibre. ( unless for some reason you're retarded and dont eat vegetables ).

AS I said, each to their own, doesn't make me ill informed however,

"High-protein diets are not recommended because they restrict healthful foods that provide essential nutrients and do not provide the variety of foods needed to adequately meet nutritional needs. Individuals who follow these diets are therefore at risk for compromised vitamin and mineral intake, as well as potential cardiac, renal, bone, and liver abnormalities overall."

taken from rynnor's post above. You can find an article to support more or less any argument and 90% of them are baised in one way or another. From personal experience I found that diet type to work well short term but have negative effects long term that out weighed the positives. Was just a warning that they aren't always the quick fix they're made out to be. If it works for you, great!

 

[Overdriven]

I'd rather be on keto and know exactly what I'm eating, in what quantity and exactly what macros than be somebody who has no idea what they're eating and never changes *shrug* - I can go on and off the diet without many issues, usually do 1-2 months of Keto before I move back to carbs (Enough to drop the fat/weight gained) and continue at the gym as I normally do. Gain a little weight back and usually end up more toned/defined, on-carbs sorts the rest out. Actually knowing what you put in your body is quite useful... Makes you appreciate food more..

EDIT: Crohn's also makes me ill if I eat high quantities of carbs, only downside of still have Chohn's.

 

[rynnor]

Actually knowing what you put in your body is quite useful... Makes you appreciate food more..

A lot of people end up obsessing over it though - food addiction is a very nasty disease and can come to dominate peoples lives. Being on a diet is not 'normal' or 'healthy' psychologically.

If you want to lose weight get an active hobby - diets are part of our western obsession with quick fixes rather than being willing to make long term changes to how we live.

 

[Himse]

Made a promise to myself that i'd exercise every day, going to slowly build my fitness up so I can make use of a proper routine with plenty of cardo, a little weights etc.

I did 5k on a cross trainer yesterday, my christ am I unfit, i'm not fat by any means, but it's a real shock how much stamina I have lost.

 

[Lethul]

Stamina is lost at an incredible rate tbh.
It is enough to be sidelined from training for a few months and it feels like you are starting from scratch again

 

[opticle]

Stamina is lost at an incredible rate tbh.
It is enough to be sidelined from training for a few months and it feels like you are starting from scratch again

Completely. It can be quite depressing and knock your motivation back a lot. It comes back quite quickly though - you just have to power through for the first couple of weeks.

 

[Scouse]

Actually ECA
Quote from teh same New Scientist article:

"But what we really need is a study showing whether people on the low-carbohydrate diet for years have different odds of heart attacks, strokes and diabetes," she says

Yep. It's good at making you lose weight - but there's not a lot of long-term evidence around overall benefits and risks.

 

[Exioce]

I'm all alone in the Fitocracy FH group

 

[Appollo]

Lost 6 pound in 4 days with IF and my own eating regime. Aim to get down to 13 stone by end of month, run 1/2 marathon on 4th feb and then start p90x yay!.........

 

[Tom]

This image represents about 8,800 miles of cycling over the last two years. The deeper the red, the more I cycle that road.

Hopefully, this year, a new track will be added - one that goes from Land's End to John O'Groats.

 

[Overdriven]

Lost 6 pound in 4 days with IF and my own eating regime. Aim to get down to 13 stone by end of month, run 1/2 marathon on 4th feb and then start p90x yay!.........

I love the initial water loss, it's a good few pounds - Nice to see the scales drop though! - IF? - If I could be bothered I'd buy the weights etc for p90x, been looking at Insanity out of curiosity (Not needing any equip is a nice seller!)

 

[TdC]

89.1 kg this morning on my unfriendly scales. bye bye christmas pud and booze

two more months of this crap and I'll be at goal. woot.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Given my lack of movement recently I'm hoping I've put weight on. Knowing my stupid body though I'll be at the same weight despite eating more and moving less.

 

[Gumbo]

Finished P90x just before Christmas, no real weight differences, but 3 inches off my waist and massive changes in strength and flexibility.

I'm starting insanity on 28th of January, then planning an insanity p90x hybrid.

The beachbody programs are very american, and cheesy for it, but they are very effective and easy to do at home. P90x was awesome for me.

 

[Billargh]

This image represents about 8,800 miles of cycling over the last two years. The deeper the red, the more I cycle that road.

Hopefully, this year, a new track will be added - one that goes from Land's End to John O'Groats.

What did you use to get a heatmap like that? I'd love to get one myself for my running.

 

[Appollo]

I love the initial water loss, it's a good few pounds - Nice to see the scales drop though! - IF? - If I could be bothered I'd buy the weights etc for p90x, been looking at Insanity out of curiosity (Not needing any equip is a nice seller!)

IF = intermittent fasting I got a pull up bar and those elastic tube things, just need a yoga mat.

 

[Appollo]

Sunday is eatwotyouwantday, just had a tesco Belgium choc cheesecake slice. Fuck it's nice but don't read the health stats on packet

 

[Tom]

What did you use to get a heatmap like that? I'd love to get one myself for my running.

I track all my rides on Sportstracklive (app on my Android phone). I also track my heart rate. When I return home and press the "finish" button, the app uploads the track to the app's website. The website has a "download all tracks as *.GPX files". I downloaded everything (about 350 files) to a folder on my computer.

Then I created a free account on Strava. Then I uploaded all those files to Strava (you can do 25 at once so it doesn't take long). Once I'd done that, I went here:

http://www.jonathanokeeffe.com/strava/map.php

In there, you put your Strava account number (easy to find, just click around the place until the url changes to include your account number, six digits). Then you let it do its thing. With a few hundred tracks it takes quite a while, but the results are pretty fascinating. The image I saved doesn't include a few tracks that are well outside the Manchester area.

 

[Nate]

Went for a run again today, still feel this pain gay.

 

[Appollo]

Went for a run again today, still feel this pain gay.

Same here, have a twinge in groin again. Will run on Tuesday and if it twinges again ill rest it whole of jan.

 

[Nate]

Same here, have a twinge in groin again. Will run on Tuesday and if it twinges again ill rest it whole of jan.

I'm googling some stretches for it, might be worth having a go yourself mate. Rest first ofc.

I snickered at the last stretch.