Politics Election 2019

[caLLous]

A long way in the background then. Like... outside.

 

[JBP|]

A long way in the background then. Like... outside.

Not in this weather.
I also aim for quality over quantity.

 

[Embattle]

Regional voting intentions show both main parties down everywhere, with Labour hit particularly hard | YouGov

 

[Gwadien]

Brexit Party..

Well fuck me, I'm going to cut my arms off.

 

[Scouse]

Abhorrent New Labour cunt making front pages having a pop at Labour during an election.

Never liked this angry twat. Neither did the people who worked with him apparently...

At least he's "writing in the torygraph", eh? Nobody would have read it until the supposedly pro-labour paper started giving coverage to people like him (and Margaret Hodge again) now the election's up and running. Funny that ...

 

[DaGaffer]

Abhorrent New Labour cunt making front pages having a pop at Labour during an election.

Never liked this angry twat. Neither did the people who worked with him apparently...

At least he's "writing in the torygraph", eh? Nobody would have read it until the supposedly pro-labour paper started giving coverage to people like him (and Margaret Hodge again) now the election's up and running. Funny that ...

I thought he was dead

 

[Scouse]

I thought he was dead

I'd hoped...

 

[Scouse]

Can anyone here now not concede a smear campaign is going on?

Front-page headline top-story serious news:

A Labour MP has denied altering the lyrics of the Beatles song Hey Jude to “Hey Jews” while a fellow politician is accused of repeatedly using the word “poof” during a coach journey last year.

A denial, and someone might have said poof last year.

Our mainstream press is disgusting. All this shit had gone quiet - but now the election is on it's back.

It's clear and obvious bullshit.

 

[Job]

Yes..the mainstream press is disgusting.

 

[caLLous]

 

[caLLous]

I'd still expect them to win but the Tories are making a right mess of this so far...

 

[Job]

Latest Yougov poll is a fucking disaster for Labour.
Seriously, Corbyn has to go now or they could become a 4th place power.

They have dropped 25% in the North West in 2 years.

Corbyn poll blow as Labour loses support in northern strongholds

 

[Scouse]

It's lib dem remain vote and brexit party that are taking from Labour.

 

[Yoni]

If they had changed Corbyn out for Starmer they would be having more success

 

[Wij]

If they had changed Corbyn out for Starmer they would be having more success

Anyone really.

 

[Embattle]

 

[Moriath]

Labour's Keith Vaz will not stand for re-election

Something to cheer about

 

[Gwadien]

Labour's Keith Vaz will not stand for re-election

Something to cheer about

Abso fucking lutely.

Now we can rename all the shit that's named after his mum.

 

[Hawkwind]

Hilarious, the Lib Dems caught doing a Trump with fudging poll data (Bristol) and campaign leaflets with fake quotes. Then on TV doubling down on it. A further dive towards the gutter, just when I thought it could not possibly get worse.

 

[Gwadien]

2019 The year that the UK was driven off a cliff but everyone was too busy worrying about very minor things.

 

[Wij]

Farage helping Johnson to deliver a deal which he has told his paid-up party members is not Brexit and denying them the ability to vote for what they agree is Brexit. Because democracy?

 

[Gwadien]

Because if Boris gets a majority it'll be a no deal Brexit anyway.

 

[Gumbo]

Farage helping Johnson to deliver a deal which he has told his paid-up party members is not Brexit and denying them the ability to vote for what they agree is Brexit. Because democracy?

I imagine it's more an attempt to go coalition with the Cons and force a No-Deal by voting down the WA, then voting against anti no-deal legislation.

We're looking fucked, frankly.

The only hope at all is that Labour do just badly enough that Corbyn has to go, and a true remain leader takes over. Then combined with SNP, LibDem, Plaid, Ind etc together with what remains of the sane Cons, band together to prevent No-Deal.

Basically we're probably looking at many more months of this shit, rather than sanity prevailing and calling the whole sorry mess off.

 

[Wij]

I imagine it's more an attempt to go coalition with the Cons and force a No-Deal by voting down the WA, then voting against anti no-deal legislation.

We're looking fucked, frankly.

The only hope at all is that Labour do just badly enough that Corbyn has to go, and a true remain leader takes over. Then combined with SNP, LibDem, Plaid, Ind etc together with what remains of the sane Cons, band together to prevent No-Deal.

Basically we're probably looking at many more months of this shit, rather than sanity prevailing and calling the whole sorry mess off.

The window of 'not-quite-fucked-up' is very narrow. Corbyn won't win (not that it would be great if he did) but if he manages to stop the Tories getting a majority he'll count it as a win anyway. If it's a hung parliament then both Corbyn and Johnson might decide to stay on.

Hell continues.

 

[Scouse]

Lib dems'll fuck it @Wij. Tories will want to form a coalition with 'em

 

[Wij]

Lib dems'll fuck it @Wij. Tories will want to form a coalition with 'em

They won't need to with the way Johnson is still treated in the press and BBC.

 

[Moriath]

I imagine it's more an attempt to go coalition with the Cons and force a No-Deal by voting down the WA, then voting against anti no-deal legislation.

We're looking fucked, frankly.

The only hope at all is that Labour do just badly enough that Corbyn has to go, and a true remain leader takes over. Then combined with SNP, LibDem, Plaid, Ind etc together with what remains of the sane Cons, band together to prevent No-Deal.

Basically we're probably looking at many more months of this shit, rather than sanity prevailing and calling the whole sorry mess off.

So you are trying to organise all the mp’s whose constituents voted to leave majoritys to ignore their vote. The mps should represent what their voters voted for not what they feel.

so places that were remain mp vote remain etc.

 

[Gumbo]

So you are trying to organise all the mp’s whose constituents voted to leave majoritys to ignore their vote. The mps should represent what their voters voted for not what they feel.

so places that were remain mp vote remain etc.

That's never been how our democracy works, but of course there's the argument that our democracy just isn't working any more anyway.

Then you come all the way back to what were people voting for in the referendum and how should their MP's represent that in the House.

As it's now abundantly clear that no one knew what the fuck was being voted for in the referendum it is entirely impossible for the mp's to represent their constituents wishes on Brexit. How many voted for No-Deal, how many voted for Norway style terms, how many voted out, but only if we stay in the common market etc etc etc.

You can't simplify it that much.

 

[Wij]

Latest number crunchers putting it at healthy Tory majority so we'll finally get rid of Corbyn at the expense of the country getting totally fucked.

 

[Moriath]

That's never been how our democracy works, but of course there's the argument that our democracy just isn't working any more anyway.

Then you come all the way back to what were people voting for in the referendum and how should their MP's represent that in the House.

As it's now abundantly clear that no one knew what the fuck was being voted for in the referendum it is entirely impossible for the mp's to represent their constituents wishes on Brexit. How many voted for No-Deal, how many voted for Norway style terms, how many voted out, but only if we stay in the common market etc etc etc.

You can't simplify it that much.

The ref was clear. Do you want to be in or out.
No one was asked on the details. Those were to be handled once the direction was set.

But instead of the mps arguing about which method of exit we should be doing they are still trying to reverse the result. We might have left by now if they had accepted that stay was out of the way.