Politics Election 2019

[Wij]

How Labour Lost the Culture War

 

[Job]

From a painfully liberal viewpoint.

 

[Wij]

From a painfully liberal viewpoint.

Buh?

 

[Job]

Tired stereotypes still hanging on.

 

[Job]

Something more to the right

Europeans have started to change their minds on Brexit | The Spectator

 

[Deebs]

Sensible means sensible... there aren't different definitions. Maintaining the status quo would've been the sensible thing to do. Something that isn't sensible is reckless, and I can't think of a better adjective for what's about to happen.

The thing is that people have different views on what sensible is. Many do not think that the route the EU is taking is sensible for them and given the chance to make their voice heard they were.

 

[Job]

The Libs got 280 votes here.


Haha.

 

[Wij]

Something more to the right

Europeans have started to change their minds on Brexit | The Spectator

lol’ed irl at the bit where he says that Brexit is more likely to lead to Ireland wanting to join the UK than NI leave it.

@DaGaffer I presume this is the current mood in Dublin?

 

[DaGaffer]

lol’ed irl at the bit where he says that Brexit is more likely to lead to Ireland wanting to join the UK than NI leave it.

@DaGaffer I presume this is the current mood in Dublin?

Clearly Ireland now wishes to be brought under the moral tutelage of more modern, more secular, more capitalistic powers. London is a more logical and convenient choice for that role than Brussels. This would require forgetting a lot of history, but of course forgetting history is what ‘European values’ are all about.

Wow. Just. Wow. The chances of Ireland ever deferring to British governance, ever, are about the same as Somalia putting the first astronaut on the Sun.

The whole narrative here since Thursday is essentially that Irish unification is essentially inevitable (along with the general breakup of the UK) and Varadkar has basically been telling people to calm down and not get ahead of themselves.

NB. The mention in the article that only 50% have been satisfied with Varadkar's handling of Brexit is a complete lie, it's about the only thing where Fine Gael is doing well in the polls with 80-90% approval.

 

[dysfunction]

Wasn't Boris the editor of the Spectator at one point?
Still got influence in that then by the looks of it

 

[Wij]

View: https://twitter.com/MollyMEP/status/1205491713269288963

 

[Deebs]

View: https://twitter.com/MollyMEP/status/1205491713269288963

FFS. Here we go. Everyone knew the rules under which the GE was going to run with.

Didn't we have a vote on this in 2011?

 

[dysfunction]

FFS. Here we go. Everyone knew the rules under which the GE was going to run with.

Didn't we have a vote on this in 2011?

Yes we did. Unfortunately that didn't go the right way either

 

[Gumbo]

Yes we did. Unfortunately that didn't go the right way either

Mostly because the Lib Dems got bent over on that one too, and it wasn't a proper PR option.

 

[Gwadien]

It's a bit sad that Dennis Skinner lost his seat tbh.

Even if you disagree with his politics, he was an integral part of the House of Commons and you can't deny his commitment.

 

[Yoni]

Just because we vote on something once doesn’t mean we will vote the same way again as election 2024 will show when those northern towns have realized they should have never put their destiny in the hands of a bunch of people who don’t care ...

 

[Moriath]

Yes we did. Unfortunately that didn't go the right way either

The right way according to you. This is the problem with a lot of the divisiveness. People have their own view of right and cannot accept it when more people believe the opposite to them.

 

[Moriath]

Just because we vote on something once doesn’t mean we will vote the same way again as election 2024 will show when those northern towns have realized they should have never put their destiny in the hands of a bunch of people who don’t care ...

I do t think any one is under the illusion that a lot of the northern votes were lent to the tories because of corbyn / brexit.

 

[Job]

Just because we vote on something once doesn’t mean we will vote the same way again as election 2024 will show when those northern towns have realized they should have never put their destiny in the hands of a bunch of people who don’t care ...

At least there wont be another trillion of debt by then.

 

[Embattle]

Just because we vote on something once doesn’t mean we will vote the same way again as election 2024 will show when those northern towns have realized they should have never put their destiny in the hands of a bunch of people who don’t care ...

You hope

 

[Embattle]

I do t think any one is under the illusion that a lot of the northern votes were lent to the tories because of corbyn / brexit.

Yet I can easily see a number of circumstances where he could keep them even in the next round.

 

[Yoni]

If by some Christmas miracle Bozza gets scrooged and significantly improves their situation (decreasing their irritation to begin with by using his majority to drown out the ERG and far right influences) I will be more than overjoyed. However, I believe for that to be remotely possible there needs to be a strong opposition in play and sadly at the moment there isn't (optimistically momentum will ctfo).

 

[Job]

The Guardian is very subtly turning against labour and the libs, I think this finally has the bean counters deciding that ticking over on begging and a small collection of the converted isnt going to get the rent paid.

 

[Wij]

Furious Labour backlash after Jeremy Corbyn refuses to take blame for election disaster

 

[Wij]

Ashcroft’s poll on voting by age is mind blowing. Age is far more predictive of voting than social class or wealth or sex.

Probably needs to start funding the NHS properly.

 

[DaGaffer]

Ashcroft’s poll on voting by age is mind blowing. Age is far more predictive of voting than social class or wealth or sex.

Probably needs to start funding the NHS properly.

Boomers. Making everyone's future shittier since 1945.

 

[caLLous]

 

[Moriath]

Ashcroft’s poll on voting by age is mind blowing. Age is far more predictive of voting than social class or wealth or sex.

Probably needs to start funding the NHS properly.

Apparently loads of young were registering to vote this time but the % was slightly less than 2017 that actually voted.

boomers voted us into europe in the 70s.

 

[Moriath]

Shops shutting is not the tories fault thats mainly the rise in online shopping tbh.

 

[Gwadien]

boomers voted us into europe in the 70s.

Is that a fact?

Because I'd imagine the people that lived through WW2 were more likely to vote to join the EU.