Moriath
I am a FH squatter
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Don't get me wrong, I am not asking for a lockdown. I just follow guidance and use my common sense (shame that lots of others don't). My concern is the downplaying of just how deadly Covid-19 is.
Might be to you, but I've not been following WHO amendments, so that's news to me.I agree with Bodhi's point of view - just like all data / statistics they can be manipulated to support any view point and yes Scouse your lack of agreement with WHO now they have modified their view is noticable.
Yes. Yes it is.As I said, comparing COVID to flu isn't downplaying how deadly COVID is
Covid deaths three times higher than flu and pneumonia
Office for National Statistics data looked at the underlying cause of death in England and Wales.www.bbc.co.uk
Well done. You've found an article comparing half a weak flu season to COVID.
that article said:The mortality rate for Covid-19 is also significantly higher than influenza and pneumonia rates for both 2020 and the five-year average," said Sarah Caul, from the ONS.
WiYes. Yes it is.
Sweden..Might be to you, but I've not been following WHO amendments, so that's news to me.
Where do me and the WHO differ?
We did do something about it but it took a long time and killed many many people along the way and to be honest if a very virulent strain of flu occurs again the human race as you can see from the information below could still be fucked although Corona has killed more humans with a lockdown than most of the pandemics in recent times the exception being Spanish flu.No one has answered my question.
Maybe the reason why the flu isnt as bad as everyone made out because we did something about it?
As I don't follow Sweden and the WHO's position on Sweden religiously it'd be good if you could explain what's changed rather than expecting me to just "understand" with a one-word country answer :\Sweden..
No, I did get spanked by Guardian clickbait and didnt read the article fully.When something (clear data) hits him square in the face then he has a little wobble, writes a post that is barely intelligable then carries on as normal, disregarding the thing that shook his reality...
Just FYI - I wasn't. That's something Bodhi threw in there and you agreed on.if you were indeed following WHO
The fact that the flu and covid are in the same ballpark doesnt hold out much promise for a vaccine.
Just FYI - I wasn't. That's something Bodhi threw in there and you agreed on.
At the beginning of the pandemic I quoted the WHO in a number of things - including their historical advice, which is still good advice. As the WHO have clearly amended their position on how to manage this unique disease as time has passed then what I'd be quoting today would be different from my position then.
As is only sensible - you take your feed from the experts.
Bodhi has been "it's no worse than flu" since the beginning and has pretty much kept that up consistently.
/shrug...
That’s too dramatic - Covid is nasty but it is not going to wipe out the human race... We the human race will more than likely wipe out the human raceAbsolutely this.
Let's not be complacent and let something wipe us out because Covid wasn't all that bad.
That’s too dramatic - Covid is nasty but it is not going to wipe out the human race... We the human race will more than likely wipe out the human race
My only covid conspiracy theory is that it's being treated so severely because it's being used as a trial run for something potentially much worse in the future.
Well, apart from the 300 million people who died of smallpox in the 20th Century maybe.Things are worse than they were before.
My only covid conspiracy theory is that it's being treated so severely because it's being used as a trial run for something potentially much worse in the future.
Well, apart from the 300 million people who died of smallpox in the 20th Century maybe.
Or the other endemic diseases that have been cured by medical science.
I'd be great at that. The zombie apocalypse.Well we can't be too prepared for the incoming zombie apocalypse.
As I don't follow Sweden and the WHO's position on Sweden religiously it'd be good if you could explain what's changed rather than expecting me to just "understand" with a one-word country answer :\
And as the last time I had an opinion on Sweden was a few months ago, and that the WHO have obviously changed their position, is it beyond the ken that I may also have changed mine?
Unlike some people (*cough*@Bodhi*cough*)I don't have a fixed opinion on this (*cough*it's just like the flu*cough*) that controverts the actual evidence (*cough* it really isn't like the flu *cough*) that I desparately cling to from moment one to the end like my "right-ness" is integral to my identity, or something.
If the WHO position has changed on Sweden then great.
What is it?
I'm not a real prepper by any means (some of them are nuts!) but I have quite a large, well stored stock of dried and tinned food, booze, medical stuff etc probably enough to live on for 3-4 months atm but I stock it up now and again. Plus a load of water treatment stuff and a generator. Along with all that I have taught myself carpentry and various other useful things, gardening, plastering, some rudimentary plumbing and electrics and how to shoot/hunt small game, rabbits, pigeons, squirrels etc.
Even in lockdown it's handy to know how to be as self sufficient as possible.
Quite a lot of people are saying that the more we encroach on nature en mass the more nasty shit we are going to dig up and with the world getting smaller and smaller nasty shit will spread quickly.
I've been searching for WHO releases from the past week but I can't find owt.in terms of fatality rate it is slap bang in the same ballpark according the WHO last week. You can argue semantics all you want, but if you use the numbers they quoted, the IFR is somewhere between 0.1 and 0.2.