Another prime-time successfull Relic-raid

[Killerbee]

But is that Hibernia's fault? No.

Did I say that? No. Read Grymligast post about it.

 

[Brite]

cant understand how albs can complain?

We did alarm clock raid, and then we get prime time raided and are outnumbered for the first timer ever QQ :'(


quick get the list out

1. blame shrooms
2. blame banshees
3. blame radar
4. blame lag
5. blame baseline stun

 

[Killerbee]

It's not complain, just was recording the fact, we didnt lose it due to the cba attitude.

 

[Zede]

Suicide/ML10-Sojourner to port to Sauvage. And again... Albs had a CHANCE; because you where ONLINE. That's the difference with an alarmclock-raid in essence...



Would be fun but if Albs cant be arsed to do that it will be hard to get that :S



Again with the difference that the Albs make the choice here not to defend; where the Hibs had no chance to defend coz it was 7:30 AM :X

Chances of less than 1% dont really interest me tbh

 

[Puppet]

Chances of less than 1% dont really interest me tbh

Its not 1%; if it was 1% I wanna know how u succeeded successfully defending a few days earlier ...

 

[Raewyn]

Hibs capitalised on the fact the fg crowd wanted insta rvr.
Dont expect it to happen again youve ruined it for yourselfs

gratz on the relic and it prolly was well executed but hardly a challenge seeing as 2 keeps were already in enemy hands

Erm.. may I ask actually what difference does it make, if 2 keeps are already in enemy hands? We only had to take Renaris to get the relic.

The fact that you didn't have Berkstead nor Erasleigh had absolutely nothing to do with the relic raid, since we didn't go throught the milegates to get the relic.

Come back with real arguments please.

 

[Corran]

Erm.. may I ask actually what difference does it make, if 2 keeps are already in enemy hands? We only had to take Renaris to get the relic.

The fact that you didn't have Berkstead nor Erasleigh had absolutely nothing to do with the relic raid, since we didn't go throught the milegates to get the relic.

Come back with real arguments please.

You having keep = quicker access to realm = more people go.

You having keep = boats dont pass beno = easier not to be seen

You having keep = 70+ hibs in HW = zerg not rare = dont know if RR or not.


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And, shrooms made a big difference at this. Firstly they had a ton guarding the trebs. This meant you couldnt get near them to destroy them.

Once inside they were spread around the doors. I tried to get in (for 3rd time) and i got hit by about 40 shrooms that had been placed beside the outter door and the inner door, and there was more inside the inner keep (you had alraedy got in). So if any alb was trying to get in there was a 99% chance you lose 2-4 people of the group before you got into the centre keep.

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Gratz on the raid but it wasnt a surprise that you got it. Surprised it took so long. Wasnt that many albs in RvR and those that were couldnt do much as were mainly randoms/stealthers and they cant stop multiple high RR hib groups.

 

[Jupiter]

interesting thread, anyways thanks all hibs that turned up givf more screenies

 

[Puppet]

You having keep = quicker access to realm = more people go.

You having keep = boats dont pass beno = easier not to be seen

You having keep = 70+ hibs in HW = zerg not rare = dont know if RR or not.

You also see flames on the keeps earlier because you lack 2 keeps. Also the best defense is actually active RvR in a zone; because it will be more likely to spot the force.

And, shrooms made a big difference at this. Firstly they had a ton guarding the trebs. This meant you couldnt get near them to destroy them.

They where on a hill you couldnt reach from Eras (The ground is too steep to climb), you actually had to go around. Wasnt shrooms preventing you from killing the trebs, it was the geometry.

Once inside they were spread around the doors. I tried to get in (for 3rd time) and i got hit by about 40 shrooms that had been placed beside the outter door and the inner door, and there was more inside the inner keep (you had alraedy got in). So if any alb was trying to get in there was a 99% chance you lose 2-4 people of the group before you got into the centre keep.

Not very different to Mids/Albs doing a Relicraid tbh; I always die whenever I try to get inside /shrug

 

[Penlid]

You having the OUR relic in your keep, with 10% bonus to melee. It's impossible to not think this was going to happen sooner or later, you took your own relics back, and then tried to take both ours. You should have just taken your own relic back, if all you can do is whine about taking OUR relic back.

Iirc 4 or 5 trebs were destroyed from palitones, and there was probably only 3 Animists there. Sorc has the longest range mez in game, use it on shrooms! Quit the whining, you have the longest range in the game but do we QQ about it? NO! Accept the fact that all realms have something superior to the other one way or another.

Once again it was a nicely led raid by Jupi.

 

[Killerbee]

Its not 1%; if it was 1% I wanna know how u succeeded successfully defending a few days earlier ...

Regular RvR ppl was on.

 

[Cromcruaich]

Well planned and well executed raid. Nice one Jupi.

 

[Alyssania]

The way I see it it was again well done raid but since some people here like to argue times and generally whine about everything said here ill start my whine too then...

First of all the time was not anywhere near primetime for me since I was tired as hell already and was something like 23.30. I was supposed to watch a movie but the dragon fell to sleep so logged back to play for a while since knew our group would be terribly underpowered without me.

The albion rr I didnt attend was planned to if I remember correct 9am and relics was taken at 9.30 I heard. I was sleeping at that time since my working hours are from saturday 19 to sunday 6am. Naturally couldnt stay awake to join it even if I wanted.

Last nights rr hibs had planned it for sometime already so maybe that explains the constant adding of high rr hib groups past week or two. Whats better tictac than to drive everyone but the people that like to go random groups or solo away since who on earth would like to run GG on a friday evening against the zerglings.

109 hibs attacked the keep from a place unreachable to albs basically and smashed the walls and CK was also well planned after that I guess you guys shroomed the walls and put your stun nukers to stand there with em while others ran a ram to door. No oil was poured I guess since it would be a freeking miracle if someone would make to press the button there. I never reached to the keep since the well trained zergling groups had their stick macros ready and we got battered on the way to the keep. Well planned and trained for weeks again.

And even with all the 150 lvl 50's online defending we would have probably been losing anyway. 109 hibs with shrooms taking a keep really isnt the hardest option really. Like someone said I also would like to welcome everyone in hibernia to show me a way to defend a keep with walls full of shrooms and show me a way to defend lord room with the current situation of pbaoe etc going through the walls and floors. And yes you can whine that we should roll ice wizzies but if you would have actually played one you would probably know why people dont really play em unlike other realms pbaoer's... Was leaching rp's with my warden on excal last week and albs had enormous zerg taking eras there. I mean I never even seen that much albs in one place probably. Still the about 20 hibs kept the zerg away with walls down for quite a long time with purely stun nuking and somewhat loads of shrooms...

And now if you really get my point of posting you notice I added 2 hours to the times SINCE WE ALL DONT LIVE IN THE FUCKING SAME TIMEZONE!!! And some of us dont see your point in doing primetime raid in the middle of friday night when there is only people doing leveling and trying to get some random fights in rvr...

Hope that was any better than my last whine. All the l33t people didnt really get my point then...

To conclude my post I want to say stop the freeking whining. People play when they want, how they want and also usually what they want. Hibs did a fine raid with same way as albs. They planned it so there would be minimal defenders there and online. Ofc they cant make morning raids because they whined about it for ages just like they dont zerg or run more than one group in a stick if you ask em...(couldnt resist one more )

 

[Raewyn]

You having keep = quicker access to realm = more people go.

You having keep = boats dont pass beno = easier not to be seen

You having keep = 70+ hibs in HW = zerg not rare = dont know if RR or not.

Us having the keep, ok it's faster to port there, but we might as well take boats, not too hard.

Us having the keep, boats don't pass beno. Fair enough, but do you think there would be so many Albs in Hadrian's, if we didn't have the keep there in the first place? Benowyc would be a ghost town. It's alot harder to actually gather a RR zerg in a common RvR zone and not to get spotted.

You really think that, if you see 70 hibs running on stick to the same leader or like 5 - 6 different groups moving to Pennine we are just roaming and zerging around? Like come on. It's very easy to spot the difference or a RR zerg and a random zerg tbh, even for you.

 

[TheBinarySurfer]

outnumbered for the first timer ever QQ :'(

Do you make an effort to be ignorant or does it come naturally? :/

Theyve had the most numbers in rvr BY FAR for weeks if not months now 80-90% of the time...

 

[Straef]

Before anyone tries to verbally abuse me: Here's my _opinion_.
I personally, as a tank, don't feel the least bit useful at a keeptake/defence, let alone a relic raid. Also I feel (not saying it's a fact..) that albion doesn't have the greatest aoe/keep defence/take chars in the game. The only real pbaoe class in albion would be the icewiz, which, since nf, have been more or less extinct. Hibs on the other hand have the famous shrooms, mana chanters/eldritches. I can't really tell whether the chanters/eldritches all respecced since nf aswell, as I don't play hib, but every time I'm at/near a keeptake/defence there seem to be plenty of them around, while I'd be surprised to see as much as 1-2 icewizzies. Personally think that hibs can manage to do more with fewer people in keeptake/defence and such.

 

[gwal]

It was 7.30 get it right or don't say a fucking time at all? Gratz btw, least albs will take back keeps now so that shit RvR known as berks > beno can die! It was good for my shee, no good for mini :<

u sound like it matters if its 5 or 7.30

 

[Tareregion]

fucking shrooms ey?

 

[pikeh]

it was luvelyy sunny evening in the UK, I guess most albs were off down the pub - had i think 36 albs in BG, thats it.

are most albs over 18 then?

 

[Gamah]

I am <o/

 

[CstasY]

'We rock because we took a keep with minor defence!'

 

[Aeva]

The way I see it it was again well done raid but since some people here like to argue times and generally whine about everything said here ill start my whine too then...

First of all the time was not anywhere near primetime for me since I was tired as hell already and was something like 23.30. I was supposed to watch a movie but the dragon fell to sleep so logged back to play for a while since knew our group would be terribly underpowered without me.

The albion rr I didnt attend was planned to if I remember correct 9am and relics was taken at 9.30 I heard. I was sleeping at that time since my working hours are from saturday 19 to sunday 6am. Naturally couldnt stay awake to join it even if I wanted.

Last nights rr hibs had planned it for sometime already so maybe that explains the constant adding of high rr hib groups past week or two. Whats better tictac than to drive everyone but the people that like to go random groups or solo away since who on earth would like to run GG on a friday evening against the zerglings.

109 hibs attacked the keep from a place unreachable to albs basically and smashed the walls and CK was also well planned after that I guess you guys shroomed the walls and put your stun nukers to stand there with em while others ran a ram to door. No oil was poured I guess since it would be a freeking miracle if someone would make to press the button there. I never reached to the keep since the well trained zergling groups had their stick macros ready and we got battered on the way to the keep. Well planned and trained for weeks again.

And even with all the 150 lvl 50's online defending we would have probably been losing anyway. 109 hibs with shrooms taking a keep really isnt the hardest option really. Like someone said I also would like to welcome everyone in hibernia to show me a way to defend a keep with walls full of shrooms and show me a way to defend lord room with the current situation of pbaoe etc going through the walls and floors. And yes you can whine that we should roll ice wizzies but if you would have actually played one you would probably know why people dont really play em unlike other realms pbaoer's... Was leaching rp's with my warden on excal last week and albs had enormous zerg taking eras there. I mean I never even seen that much albs in one place probably. Still the about 20 hibs kept the zerg away with walls down for quite a long time with purely stun nuking and somewhat loads of shrooms...

And now if you really get my point of posting you notice I added 2 hours to the times SINCE WE ALL DONT LIVE IN THE FUCKING SAME TIMEZONE!!! And some of us dont see your point in doing primetime raid in the middle of friday night when there is only people doing leveling and trying to get some random fights in rvr...

Hope that was any better than my last whine. All the l33t people didnt really get my point then...

To conclude my post I want to say stop the freeking whining. People play when they want, how they want and also usually what they want. Hibs did a fine raid with same way as albs. They planned it so there would be minimal defenders there and online. Ofc they cant make morning raids because they whined about it for ages just like they dont zerg or run more than one group in a stick if you ask em...(couldnt resist one more )

Summed it up nicely there, I mean, how can you save a keep when there are about 20 shrooms in lords room, interupting all casts and pbaoes, you'd be dead before you got up the stairs

 

[stupeh]

you could gather 10+ convokers and all dd mine beneath the lord room?

 

[Penlid]

How to defeat shrooms : Run in, mez them, the aoe nuke them, they got low hp's they insta die. The animist is oop, you win easy.

What you albs do is run in, see shrooms, lay down on the floor in desperation for them to kill you, they kill you cos your n00bs, and then you whine about them.

Get a fucking clue

 

[stupeh]

It's not that easy in a lord room though?.. You run in, start to cast mezz, and get pb'd by the chanter standing next to you. ;P

 

[Penlid]

No no... it's got to be the baseline stun i mean!!! 1 chanter baseline stunned everyone in 9 seconds and then pbaoe'd them, and they whined about it.

Did anyone explain what purge is?

Or...... bainshee was cae'ing through walls, although they can't at keeps, and relic keeps have been fixed now Soo ermm that was ruled out!

What else? ummm.. They'll probably say something like the champion valor line is way op'd and you gotta reduce the dmg on DD. It gets funnier everytime, you guys know how lame it sounds?

 

[Friea]

Whenever you _do_ run you like to add on everything tho ;o Had like 1-2 fg-fg fights with Legacy, apart from that you ALWAYS add whenever I'm in the middle of a fight, good going. Wouldn't concider your group that ubah either if you manage to get people killed to random groups ;<

oh you mean when your group died to 4 people this afternoon?

 

[Straef]

are most albs over 18 then?

Practicly raised in a pub :<

How to defeat shrooms : Run in, mez them, the aoe nuke them, they got low hp's they insta die. The animist is oop, you win easy.

What you albs do is run in, see shrooms, lay down on the floor in desperation for them to kill you, they kill you cos your n00bs, and then you whine about them.

Get a fucking clue

And how many groups run with a firewiz? (as that's the only alb class with aoe...) One, that I know off. The other groups would do... what, not aoe?

oh you mean when your group died to 4 people this afternoon?

You mean, after we killed 2fg? Can't really expect clerics to be on full power or people to have ra's/abilities up then, can you? Then again, that is the Legacy way of fighting, always come whenever I just got into a fight or right after.

 

[Righthandof]

And how many groups run with a firewiz? (as that's the only alb class with aoe...)

+smite cleric
+matter cabby(ae dot)
+scout(volley)
+servant necro
+heretic
..

 

[Penlid]

And how many groups run with a firewiz? (as that's the only alb class with aoe...) One, that I know off. The other groups would do... what, not aoe?

Reaver bomb and banelord AT comes to mind Both would insta wipe shrooms. Albs have no reason to whine still.