Another prime-time successfull Relic-raid

Lorimez Shadowblade

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Imo a well lead raid , at ANY time, is a well led raid.

/salute @ Jupiter

We'll be wanting that spear back real soon . . . . .


/bow
 

Aeva

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grats hibs, well deserved,

though no respect for puppet, flaming albs in the starting post, ofcourse you are gonna get flamed if you make such comments
childish :wanker:
 

Puppet

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GG comparing this with an alarmclock-raid; no matter what you say Albs had the chance to defend here.

Where on an alarmclockraid; be it 5:00 AM or 7:30 AM or whatever there is zero chance of defense because there are almost no defenders online compared to the attackers.

Here there where 110 or so attackers, and atleast the same ammount of Albs where online. If they choose not to defend... tough luck.

Comparing to an alarmclock-raid however is just utterly stupid.

Oh and the difference between 5:00 AM and 7:30 AM or whatever is quite small.... If you gonna nitpick about those times; bore someone else xD
 

Xxcalibur

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Bubble said:
they finaly took there relic back?
Look them long enough


ROFL ! we had albion relic in dun ailine like 6 months and u had to re take it at 7 AM with 77 albs one Sunday :/
 

Smellysox

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Niko said:
You like to lie a lot, don't you? Everytime I see you post something it's like liies liiiiiiiies liiiiiiiiiies.. we've probably been out ONCE with Legacy this week.. :/

If you want, I can start adding on your worthless SHIT group for real.
:puke:
are u retarded ? :<
 

technasia

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i just taught albs couldn't be arsed to defend cause in a good month when they cluster relics will be reset anyway
 

Straef

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Niko said:
You like to lie a lot, don't you? Everytime I see you post something it's like liies liiiiiiiies liiiiiiiiiies.. we've probably been out ONCE with Legacy this week.. :/

If you want, I can start adding on your worthless SHIT group for real.
:puke:
Whenever you _do_ run you like to add on everything tho ;o Had like 1-2 fg-fg fights with Legacy, apart from that you ALWAYS add whenever I'm in the middle of a fight, good going. Wouldn't concider your group that ubah either if you manage to get people killed to random groups ;<
 

TheBinarySurfer

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Puppet said:
Well done Jupiter for leading and the rest of the Hibs to not degrade to Alb-tactics (= wake up at 5:00 AM for a computergame to get 10% advantage).

Albs got owned... again :O

Flame away !
Some of us were out at work so couldnt farm you in defense.Well done jupiter if you did it as far as i hear.However lets get this right shall we <yawn>...
SEVEN
THIRTY
IN
THE
MORNING
NOT
FIVE
Like it makes a diff, and gee puppet - i kinda found it funny that apparently the guardspam said that there were more hibs there than albs there.Youre underpopulated of course?
Grats again jupi - and ive heard little/no reports of deliberate bug abuse from anyone so well done on controlling the zerg too.
 

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TheBinarySurfer said:
Like it makes a diff, and gee puppet - i kinda found it funny that apparently the guardspam said that there were more hibs there than albs there.Youre underpopulated of course?

If Albs 'cba' to come down to defend.. ask yourselves: Does that have *ANY* impact on the fact if Hibernia is or is not underpopulated?

Typical Oriens-bridge has more defenders then the relic-keep. Well done Albs xD
 

Alexandrinus

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as we took Beno Tower we thought there will be an response, but what happenend some stealther,scouts around only some Mids tried to take it.
Its like every day Albs Love Orions bridge....maybe Albs cant use siege??
We cripple port and you where to slow in getting to Ren...

Well lead raid Jupiter and a perfect taktik at the keep. :clap:
 

Bloodclot

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i got killed by 8ish albs this time when i was running solo to an exp spot.
does that make us underpopulated?
 

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Eva said:
Congrats again showing that you can't handle the 'insta' rvr system without taking advantage. And friday night is not primetime. If people don't have something planned(like a relic raid) alot of them actually go out.

(I don't say it was a bad raid, but calling it primetime or fair is a joke.)
Friday nights are often quiet, but by no means dead or off-peak. I think peeps tend to plan RRs for friday cos of their potential to drag on till 4am or whatever and therefore not always possible to finish for a lot of people on weeknights.

The raid was pretty quick in the end, but could have easily snowballed into a full-scale raid on albs other relics and gone on till much later in which case we'd get 'ffs alarm clock raid at 4am on weekday' whine (afaik jupi was working shifts and had about 2hrs sleep, so after getting the 1 relic back he prolly just wanted to relax and have some beers.)

Re: the insta RvR system. Not sure it made much difference there other than hibs port berks instead of porting DC and all taking a boat to alb coast. Not like hibs the Borg, have the same opinion on keep status/relic raids, and decided on-mass to 'betray albion' or somesuch...jupi posted for raid a couple of days ago and peeps turn up, simple as that.

Nice raid by jupi, nice everyone turnout as ream despite multitude of playstyle differences, etc to club together. RR /bg is prolly only time now u see whole realm working together and it's good to see it still happens.
 

Chronictank

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Hibs capitalised on the fact the fg crowd wanted insta rvr.
Dont expect it to happen again youve ruined it for yourselfs

gratz on the relic and it prolly was well executed but hardly a challenge seeing as 2 keeps were already in enemy hands
 

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Chronictank said:
Hibs capitalised on the fact the fg crowd wanted insta rvr.
Dont expect it to happen again youve ruined it for yourselfs
They said that last time. But peeps like camping beno bridge too much to care.
 

Brite

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all in all does it really matter, cluster in 2 of 3 weeks, i say last couple of days we release all keeps and see what happens, could be pretty crazy (or then again get dull fast) but even if no cluster they can always be taken back, and scouts leech 10% less rps \o/ cant be bad.

and i notice some complaining about anyone running to defend would be taken out by hib patrols, get organised then, they used a good tactic, there is a way to counter it as the albs did OF when there was opted 4/5fg blockling the way to excalibur, we saw a few soloers come out then bam, 100+ people zerg mowed us, good organisation 4fg /rel, then there tactic causes the attacking raid to be down on there starting numbers. Moaning about not being able to defend is just calling yourself or your whole realm stupid beacuse you cant think of a simple way not to get farmed.
 

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Puppet said:
GG comparing this with an alarmclock-raid; no matter what you say Albs had the chance to defend here.

Where on an alarmclockraid; be it 5:00 AM or 7:30 AM or whatever there is zero chance of defense because there are almost no defenders online compared to the attackers.

Here there where 110 or so attackers, and atleast the same ammount of Albs where online. If they choose not to defend... tough luck.

Comparing to an alarmclock-raid however is just utterly stupid.

Oh and the difference between 5:00 AM and 7:30 AM or whatever is quite small.... If you gonna nitpick about those times; bore someone else xD


chance to defend ? really.....

Alb had 1, thats one, singular, one more than zero, 1 less than 2 groups out.
Our group was right by eras and got hassled by mids all the way back to beno to port - that took 10 mins and by that time 109 hibs were already in the courtyard.

wouldnt both sides in a relic raid/defence actually like it so there were say 50 defenders in the lords room ? you know, actually have a nice fight and EARN the relic back ? this applies to all rr. I remeber some long battles in early nf lasting ages on the steps up to the lords room, being repelled multiple times - trying different tactics etc...

If any realm grabs a relic with no defenders no gratz are deserved, your just going through the motions really.....its almost like a pve raid, you kill 10 times more guards than players.
 

Killerbee

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Puppet said:
If Albs 'cba' to come down to defend.. ask yourselves: Does that have *ANY* impact on the fact if Hibernia is or is not underpopulated?

Typical Oriens-bridge has more defenders then the relic-keep. Well done Albs xD
Puppet, honest, its bullshit. If those albs who didnt come would show up, you just could farm 10k more rps/each.

I dont want to get away the glory from Jupiter, not even say that you couldnt get relic with plenty of regular alb RvRs online, you prolly could have got it anyway. But before we ran out we had to fill up one spot, we did /who merc 50 and we got 4 hits... Actually we had zero chance to defend it.

I'm only sad cause we had a kinda decent grp out for like 90 mins and apart from 1 fight with EC alliance grp (not sure, saw EC members and Xcal's eld) we got zerged (due to rr I guess, couldnt imagine why had GA ran on stick with other fg 1st ;) ), then we lost ppl (bg + melee) due to irl reasons. :<
 

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Xxcalibur said:
ROFL ! we had albion relic in dun ailine like 6 months and u had to re take it at 7 AM with 77 albs one Sunday :/

OMG SHROOOMS!
 

Penlid

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Bubble said:
so whos up for another alarm clock raid guys?
Doesn't bother me, even if you guys are lame enough to take it even now that the relics are even, they will reset in 2 weeks. Go take it and boost your ego or smth. :wub:
 

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omg its all my fault.....

everyone else in Hib is rubbish apparently but the godlike shrooms of us arrow proof 10,000 hp's Animist's coupled with the devastating 40 mile range of the banshees is enough to win through........

Too lazy to get boats to RvR you left a port for Mid's and Hib's in your own backyard then got bored of coming out to rvr because of the amount of people rvr'ing in your own backyard.
 

Penlid

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Killerbee said:
Puppet, honest, its bullshit. If those albs who didnt come would show up, you just could farm 10k more rps/each.

I dont want to get away the glory from Jupiter, not even say that you couldnt get relic with plenty of regular alb RvRs online, you prolly could have got it anyway. But before we ran out we had to fill up one spot, we did /who merc 50 and we got 4 hits... Actually we had zero chance to defend it.

I'm only sad cause we had a kinda decent grp out for like 90 mins and apart from 1 fight with EC alliance grp (not sure, saw EC members and Xcal's eld) we got zerged (due to rr I guess, couldnt imagine why had GA ran on stick with other fg 1st ;) ), then we lost ppl (bg + melee) due to irl reasons. :<
But is that Hibernia's fault? No. We had this organised for a couple of days for a night that would have a lot of defenders in the middle of prime time, we were all suprised that there were hardly any defenders, but thats Albs choice not ours. If your going to keep a relic in a keep and not defend at prime time, whats the point in taking it. Although you defended it twice before (very well).
Also if 90% of albs weren't scouts and buffbots, we would have a had a tight standoff. Albion isn't overpowered you just need get out of pve mode and make some groups, like i said in a post, it isn't that hard :cheers:
 

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Zede said:
chance to defend ? really.....

Alb had 1, thats one, singular, one more than zero, 1 less than 2 groups out.
Our group was right by eras and got hassled by mids all the way back to beno to port - that took 10 mins and by that time 109 hibs were already in the courtyard.

Suicide/ML10-Sojourner to port to Sauvage. And again... Albs had a CHANCE; because you where ONLINE. That's the difference with an alarmclock-raid in essence...

wouldnt both sides in a relic raid/defence actually like it so there were say 50 defenders in the lords room ? you know, actually have a nice fight and EARN the relic back ? this applies to all rr. I remeber some long battles in early nf lasting ages on the steps up to the lords room, being repelled multiple times - trying different tactics etc...

Would be fun but if Albs cant be arsed to do that it will be hard to get that :S

If any realm grabs a relic with no defenders no gratz are deserved, your just going through the motions really.....its almost like a pve raid, you kill 10 times more guards than players.

Again with the difference that the Albs make the choice here not to defend; where the Hibs had no chance to defend coz it was 7:30 AM :X
 

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