Politics 2024/25 General Election Voting Intention (2022)

[Overdriven]

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But what we should be doing is telling kids they're not failures if they look for trades as careers and figure a way to put them 'on rails' towards that career so they don't go into silly things.

Honestly? If you'd told me tech was a clusterfuck and I could earn more money with a lathe? Fuck this office crap, give me a hands on job.

People would be shocked if they knew the money labourers could earn too.

 

[Scouse]

You need to stop using yourself as an example because you're still the minority and governments love to use you an example for why we don't need to do more.

No. I'm not saying we don't need to "do more" - but do more doesn't mean "give free money to adults".

My example is valid. Sorry it's awkward for you though. Poverty isn't the problem and benefits aren't the answer.

Take that 3bn a year and do something useful with it. But don't give even more money to people who've proven they can't manage themselves properly.

 

[Scouse]

You know what @Gwadien - I'd rather they took that cash and made healthy and mandatory free school meals for every single pupil every day.

That benefits the parents too - as they don't have to take time and expense to prepare meals.

And it's fucking way better than giving money away.

I'm sure there's loads of other things the state could do that's technically more effective. That targets money more. But lifting the two-child benefit cap was the wrong thing to do.

 

[Scouse]

At least 8,000 illegal waste sites in UK, research suggests

Exclusive: Concerns over impact on health and environment, as well as £1.63bn in avoided landfill tax

www.theguardian.com

The cost of clearing up far outweighs the money we’re receiving from landfill tax and we’re missing all these unknown sites.

 

[Embattle]

Argue amongst yourselves some more:

Sultana claims new Corbyn party carrying out 'witch hunt'

Zarah Sultana boycotts the first day of Your Party's founding conference after several members were expelled.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Scouse]

Plan to reduce jury trials an ‘irremediable error’, lawyers say in MoJ letter

More than 100 lawyers have accused the Ministry of Justice of ignoring the legal profession’s objections

www.theguardian.com

 

[Scouse]

Fuck off Lammy (and Leveson)...

David Lammy expected to water down plans to scrap most jury trials

Justice secretary suggests he will stick to Leveson’s recommended three-year sentence threshold, after ‘cabinet feedback’

www.theguardian.com

Standard operation for politicians, announce something utterly horrific and then (as per plan) pull back to a merely disgustingly atrocious proposal and people are more likely to feel better about it.

We've a problem we're strughling to solve so we need to rape your mum.

What??!

Ah, actually. We've changed our minds. We can get away with just tying her to a chair and punching her face.

Oh. Knock yourself out then.

 

[Deebs]

Fuck off Lammy (and Leveson)...

David Lammy expected to water down plans to scrap most jury trials

Justice secretary suggests he will stick to Leveson’s recommended three-year sentence threshold, after ‘cabinet feedback’

www.theguardian.com

Standard operation for politicians, announce something utterly horrific and then (as per plan) pull back to a merely disgustingly atrocious proposal and people are more likely to feel better about it.

We've a problem we're strughling to solve so we need to rape your mum.

What??!

Ah, actually. We've changed our minds. We can get away with just tying her to a chair and punching her face.

Oh. Knock yourself out then.

Yeh I saw this last night on the news I think and was like WTF? So much for the right to trial by jury, instead some fucked off Judge who didn't get a shag the night before can do what they want.

Tell you what go employ more people to reduce the backlog. I can see them burning the Magna Carta on Jan 1st 2026.

 

[Embattle]

Nigel Farage loves to talk up Reform's ability to lead the government by talking up their local government action:


View: https://youtu.be/9pEil6-fc3Y?si=DdSPI_VdqbRLSJkM

 

[Embattle]

A little more local news here from North Devon, relating to previously discussed fly tipping:

Will North Devon’s trade waste collections be scrapped by council?

North Devon Council is considering axing its trade waste collection service which is currently running at a £67,000 a year loss

www.northdevongazette.co.uk

 

[Scouse]

Nationwide CCTV and electronic surveillance to go with your unwanted ID cards anyone?

Labour wants to ramp up facial recognition. What if our data ends up in the wrong hands? | Simon Jenkins

We know from recent hacks, and even the Snowden revelations, how vulnerable information gathered is to theft and misuse, says Guardian columnist Simon Jenkins

www.theguardian.com

It's enough to make you consider voting Tory.

Or, gulp!, Reform.

 

[Embattle]

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/05/londons-canary-wharf-gains-momentum-as-visa-jpmorgan-lease-space.html

 

[Scouse]

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/05/londons-canary-wharf-gains-momentum-as-visa-jpmorgan-lease-space.html

HSBC is exiting Canary Wharf - it might be "committing to the area for 2025" - but 2025 is over. There's a new office opening in St Pauls. I think the bank is going to split and half of it will be in China.

 

[Embattle]

View: https://youtu.be/xNh782589uw?si=hWeN5qjNTjBjNSOR

 

[Scouse]

So, you know, make it free to take waste to a government run tip?

Eh @Embattle? Has the penny dropped yet?


Edit: It's clear the environment agency is not a crime enforcement authority. This is a job for the police - and the government isn't making them do it. But ultimately, it's a simple fix.

 

[Embattle]

So, you know, make it free to take waste to a government run tip?

Eh @Embattle? Has the penny dropped yet?


Edit: It's clear the environment agency is not a crime enforcement authority. This is a job for the police - and the government isn't making them do it. But ultimately, it's a simple fix.

It won't be free as it'll have to be paid for by someone, it won't stop fly tipping either. Have either of those facts, that I've said before, sunk into that wannabe Welsh brain of yours, if not then stop repeating the same crappy posts again and again.

 

[Scouse]

It'll be paid for by the taxpayer, like it used to be.

And it will (did) solve this problem because otherwise people end up paying - so turn to fly tipping.

Not rocket science.

 

[Embattle]

It'll be paid for by the taxpayer, like it used to be.

And it will (did) solve this problem because otherwise people end up paying - so turn to fly tipping.

Not rocket science.

It appears it is rocket science as you still don't understand the difference between free at the point use and free, not the difference between reducing fly tipping versus stopping fly tipping.

 

[Tom]

If we're enabling free tipping at recycling centres, then we also need to be applying surcharges to every product sold that could eventually be tipped. And we need to be banning, or making extremely expensive, items that can't be recycled. If that means no more Fanta Zero Sugar in the supermarket, then so be it.

 

[Gwadien]

If we're enabling free tipping at recycling centres, then we also need to be applying surcharges to every product sold that could eventually be tipped. And we need to be banning, or making extremely expensive, items that can't be recycled. If that means no more Fanta Zero Sugar in the supermarket, then so be it.

Plus if we're enabling free tipping then we need to probably make x10 more tips across the country.

If you're going to make tips free but with 2-3 hour queues then you're still going to have the same issues, no?

Plus furlough all the skip companies.

 

[Embattle]

Much of it we've discussed before, the local tips will not handle the amount of rubbish that will turn up so trade waste and other larger vehicles will be made to go to the larger tips which are further away and able to deal with it. This is where the local scumbag comes in again, he charges you just for transporting to the free tip but promptly dumps it in a local lane and pockets the money rather than waste the fuel and time.

 

[Tom]

This is an excellent interview with the person racially abused by Farage:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMlj-Tn2_BA

 

[Raven]

It's wasted energy, they should be going after the Russian connection, not whether Farage is a racist, we know he is a racist, he knows we know he is a racist, he is a racist. His cult know he is racist, and banging on about it just improves his polling.

 

[Raven]

I had a colleague, years back, young lad (then) lived in social housing, he used to fuck about with Youtube ~100 followers, me included. Tried to take him under my wing a bit, failed, he ended up getting sacked for trying to sell downers at work... He was always racist, claimed that white people evolved from different apes than black folk, that sort of shit, but for a time he was becoming a bit normal, had a normal girlfriend. Anyway, 10 years later, he is still in the same social housing, but now doing youtube to a thousand folk, whining about people claiming asylum. Absolute dickhead, prime Reform cultist.

 

[Scouse]

Plus if we're enabling free tipping then we need to probably make x10 more tips across the country.

What? To make up for all the illegal tips?

If that what it takes - us disposing of waste where it is going to be handled correctly, rather than dumped next to a river by organised crime, then good.

And what @Tom said was correct - polluters must pay - at point of sale.

 

[Deebs]

What? To make up for all the illegal tips?

If that what it takes - us disposing of waste where it is going to be handled correctly, rather than dumped next to a river by organised crime, then good.

And what @Tom said was correct - polluters everyone must pay - at point of sale.

Corrected for you.

 

[Scouse]

Corrected for you.

If you buy stuff that needs the tip, then yes.

If you buy lods of stuff then needs the tip, then you're the bigger polluter and must pay more.

However, we used to have free government-run tips. We've also had years of above-inflation council tax rises. So government is spending that money somewhere else instead of necessary infrastructure.

Oh. I know. Wanging an additional 3.9bn on benefits for people with more than two kids. Or all the other bullshit services that we provide...

 

[Deebs]

If you buy stuff that needs the tip, then yes.

If you buy lods of stuff then needs the tip, then you're the bigger polluter and must pay more.

However, we used to have free government-run tips. We've also had years of above-inflation council tax rises. So government is spending that money somewhere else instead of necessary infrastructure.

Oh. I know. Wanging an additional 3.9bn on benefits for people with more than two kids. Or all the other bullshit services that we provide...

If I need to replace a failed item and then have to pay to dispose of it when it was free to dispose it will just lead to more fly tipping. Oh and now I have to book a 15 min slot and still wait in a queue. There are more obstacles when you want to dispose of items responsibly than ever before in my area. The other thing is that the population of my area has grown massively since the Army left and they built thousands of houses, the dump is still the size of a back garden.

 

[Scouse]

Yep. So a tax when you buy items that covers the cost of their disposal should be applied.

We buy too much utter utter pointless shit.

I'm about a decade behind, apparently, but this elf on the shelf kids abomination should die in a hole. Grown men showing each other pictures of elves making snow angels in microplastic 'snow' and discussing how they're stressed because if they forget to arrange them the night before they have to get up extra early so little Johnny, who they're lying to egregiously, won't get upset when the meaningless, commercial bullshit hasn't happened.

In the absence of a big red button I can press that would delete two thirds of the population Thanos-style, weighted towards retards who fall for corporate culture first, then is it too much to ask that we tax this stuff so we can dispose of it properly and safely?

BTW - I'd press that big red button three times...

 

[Gwadien]

Spot the people who are done with home renovations for a good while....