Your daily terrorist bullshit.

[DaGaffer]

Wait, did i just read that right? You support being able to pray to an ISIS flag in a public place just to be politically correct? Pray to some holy book or figure sure, no problem. Top terrorist organisation in the world? don't think so.


What do you deem acceptable behaviour before the line has been crossed? Get caught red handed 30 seconds before he blows him self up even though all the warning signs we're there. Like in this case

So what are you going to arrest him for? What will be the charge and how long can you hold him? 24 hours? The rest of his life? Because I can tell you one thing, "praying to an ISIS flag" isn't a criminal offence, and by the way, I'm pretty certain he wasn't praying to an ISIS flag anyway, as that's idolatry (hard core ISIS types don't even pray towards Mecca for the same reason) as any half competent lawyer would prove in about 10 seconds, so you've effectively arrested someone for looking at a piece of cloth. I'm feeling so much safer right now.

 

[caLLous]

UK hasn’t done enough to tackle terrorism, says woman whose job it was to tackle terrorism

 

[Job]

President.

Edit: Gah. Was such an open goal I should have suspected it

Weak joke...but 2 points for trying.

 

[Scouse]

Weak joke...but 2 points for trying.

May be a weak joke but it's stronger than your rabid and incoherent rantings about what to all intents and purposes looks to be a perfectly competent mayor of London.

 

[DaGaffer]

perspective, in recent times. terrorist attack in London, 7 deaths. in the US, someone gets sacked, 5 deaths. I'd feel safer in London tbh.

Some American fuckwit was banging on about this on another forum the other day (after Manchester) banging on about it was all because we weren't spending enough on defence and America had to protect us, yak, yak, usual trumpian shite. The most annoying was "failing to protect our children". I gave him this link - Children Killed or Injured in 2017 | Gun Violence Archive - 150 kids in the US killed by the 2nd Amendment this year to date. Apparently its "not the same".

 

[TdC]

Never come between a 'murican and his constitutional rights. They're doing perfectly well destroying those for themselves (cough Texas, I'm looking at you).

 

[TdC]

This just dropped by on my Facebook. Iirc it was Bishopsgate.

 

[Raven]

That pic could have been taken last week, that is basically what London looks like all the time.

 

[old.user4556]

This just dropped by on my Facebook. Iirc it was Bishopsgate.

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I've seen this before and it's a bit disengenous, there's a good article (mobile just now, don't have it to hand) that refutes its ignorance around the prejudice towards the Irish / Catholics as a result of IRA activities. Will post it later.

 

[DaGaffer]

I've seen this before and it's a bit disengenous, there's a good article (mobile just now, don't have it to hand) that refutes its ignorance around the prejudice towards the Irish / Catholics as a result of IRA activities. Will post it later.

We still didn't ban Irish people or catholics. So its technically correct. The best kind of correct.

 

[old.user4556]

We still didn't ban Irish people or catholics. So its technically correct. The best kind of correct.

Never said it wasn't correct.

 

[dysfunction]

This just dropped by on my Facebook. Iirc it was Bishopsgate.

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I think that is where the Gherkin now stands. Good chance I'm wrong though!

 

[Bodhi]

We were in the States around the time of the Machester attack, and the one comment that kept being made by many random Americans we were talking to, was how Khan could say that this is just something we will have to get used to. They just couldn't get their heads around that in the slightest, and I must admit, I'm with them on that point. These attacks are not something we should be "getting used to", it's something we should be figuring out how to stop.

They were hardly Donald Trump fans either, considering they were mostly Californian, but they seemed a lot more pissed off about what was going on than we were.

Say what you like about the Yanks, but there is some stuff they get absolutely spot on - i.e you attack their country, you're getting fucked up.

 

[Raven]

Yes, but who do we fuck up? Bradford? Birmingham?

 

[Job]

This just dropped by on my Facebook. Iirc it was Bishopsgate.

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We did want to, don't extend your fuzzywuzzy into the past, we fucking hated the Irish and that hate still exists today in many areas, total segregation of communities, riots, killings, armed watch towers.
Maybe you should research Irish British relations at he time and since.
It is a lesson in how bad things can get
belfast armed police stations - Google Search

 

[Raven]

I didn't hate the Irish, in fact quite a lot of my friends were Irish (still are) that had moved to the UK in the 80s.

Normal people do not blame an entire race, country or group of people for the crimes of a few.

 

[Bodhi]

Yes, but who do we fuck up? Bradford? Birmingham?

Bradford sounds a good idea. I mean, would anyone miss it?

Seriously though, given the restrictions we can place on football hooligans, paedos etc, and the number we already have on a watch list, I'm struggling to see how we can't bring in something similar for the snackbars.

 

[Deebs]

We did want to, don't extend your fuzzywuzzy into the past, we fucking hated the Irish and that hate still exists today in many areas, total segregation of communities, riots, killings, armed watch towers.
Maybe you should research Irish British relations at he time and since.
It is a lesson in how bad things can get
belfast armed police stations - Google Search

What a load of bollox, I was a kid growing up in Aldershot only a couple of miles from the barracks, (Home of the British Army if you didn't know) and there was a constant presence of armed soldiers wandering around the Military part of the town. There was certainly no hatred toward the Irish, nor armed watch towers, riots and segregation. From my memory the civilian part of the town just basically went around their normal business mixing with all the squaddies who were shopping, getting pissed at the time.

 

[Job]

We still didn't ban Irish people or catholics. So its technically correct. The best kind of correct.

Nope it says we knew it was small group of dickheads, undoubtedly the IRA had huge support in Ireland and a lot in America...

 

[Job]

What a load of bollox, I was a kid growing up in Aldershot only a couple of miles from the barracks, (Home of the British Army if you didn't know) and there was a constant presence of armed soldiers wandering around the Military part of the town. There was certainly no hatred toward the Irish, nor armed watch towers, riots and segregation. From my memory the civilian part of the town just basically went around their normal business mixing with all the squaddies who were shopping, getting pissed at the time.

No hatred towards the Irish..are you living in an alternative universe.

 

[Job]

May be a weak joke but it's stronger than your rabid and incoherent rantings about what to all intents and purposes looks to be a perfectly competent mayor of London.

On that point watching him getting grilled by Peirs this morning was treat, better things to do Sadiq..how about a meeting with 12 heads of state who ban jews entering the country.

 

[Deebs]

No hatred towards the Irish..are you living in an alternative universe.

No, I didn't and still don't hate the irish. It's not about condemning an entire religion or nationality based upon the actions of a minority which you obviously seem to do, is your nickname Trump?

 

[old.user4556]

Are we saying that there was no ill feelings towards the Irish through history and the Troubles?

 

[Job]

I think this pretty well summed up the hatred..utter evil, thick , bastard baying mob.

Corporals killings - Wikipedia

 

[Deebs]

Are we saying that there was no ill feelings towards the Irish through history and the Troubles?

What I am saying is that I do not automatically hate an entire religion or nationality based upon the actions of a minority. Of course there would be hatred toward the actual terrorists who took the action, same as it is now. Nothing has changed for me in that regard.

 

[Job]

It wasn't a minority, the IRA was woven into the Irish community, John Wayne made a film about them ffs.
In the 80s in Liverpool, men would come into the bars and collect for the IRA, it wasn't worth your teeth to not put a quid in.

 

[Edmond]

is your nickname Trump?

Hmm....you've not been here for a while have you @Deebs

 

[Bodhi]

I moved from Ballymena in Norn Ireland to Monifieth, just outside Dundee, and after I first moved I did get a few taunts at school (You going to blow us up Paddy?), but as I was 6 I don't really think it was symptomatic of a wider problem, just kids being kids.

 

[DaGaffer]

We were in the States around the time of the Machester attack, and the one comment that kept being made by many random Americans we were talking to, was how Khan could say that this is just something we will have to get used to. They just couldn't get their heads around that in the slightest, and I must admit, I'm with them on that point. These attacks are not something we should be "getting used to", it's something we should be figuring out how to stop.

They were hardly Donald Trump fans either, considering they were mostly Californian, but they seemed a lot more pissed off about what was going on than we were.

Say what you like about the Yanks, but there is some stuff they get absolutely spot on - i.e you attack their country, you're getting fucked up.

You can try figuring out how you're going to stop the attacks all you like, you're not going to find anything workable though. You can minimise, you can't stop them. The problem with Americans is they think everything can be "fixed", and have a very hard time coping with complex messy real world shit. Your final point proves mine; you attack their country, you're getting fucked up. How's that working out then?

 

[Raven]

I do find it funny that Trump thinks having to have armed police around is something to be concerned about, all American police are armed and are quite happy to draw their weapons for pretty much anything. I would be more alarmed being in a state that allows concealed carry tbh.

I remember being in London a week after the bus bombings, loads of them about, I didn't feel in any more or less danger than before.