wtf are we gone get now ?

[Javai]

Except that i solo also and my solo time gets screwed by droves of Sorcs Cabbies and Wizzies running around happy cause they nuke all that moves for 10% more? Except that Fg ppl wanna play on PAR with other peeps and not with 10% power advantage?
As it's said in many posts, u want late night action? u want siege? Just get the frigging keeps and leave relics where they are!

So explain to me how exactly how it's different when your solo'er get run over by a group of 4 caster than when my group of 4 casters get run over by one of the fgs from Agramon when we are sieging a tower?

And so we get to the crux of the matter the handful of people playing on Agramon want to play with level relics well boo hoo - relics are part of the bloody game design. If you want a lovely game with an exactly level playing field go play Guild Wars which is what its pvp is designed for. This game is not designed like that, it's like you are playing monopoly and after an hour one player has more money so you decide they should give it back so everyone plays from an even point.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

"1, 2, 3 - spike my target"!

 

[Gahn]

So explain to me how exactly how it's different when your solo'er get run over by a group of 4 caster than when my group of 4 casters get run over by one of the fgs from Agramon when we are sieging a tower?

And so we get to the crux of the matter the handful of people playing on Agramon want to play with level relics well boo hoo - relics are part of the bloody game design. If you want a lovely game with an exactly level playing field go play Guild Wars which is what its pvp is designed for. This game is not designed like that, it's like you are playing monopoly and after an hour one player has more money so you decide they should give it back so everyone plays from an even point.

U fail to see the point, anyway it's your business now, play at whatever fuck the hour u want, AC all other 3 relics, zerg the fuck out of everything: i don't care BUT do it with 40 less Hibs to fight.
Am pretty sure with your blindfolded watch u gonna be happy about it, u gonna win Daoc!!
Grats xD

 

[Javai]

U fail to see the point, anyway it's your business now, play at whatever fuck the hour u want, AC all other 3 relics, zerg the fuck out of everything: i don't care BUT do it with 40 less Hibs to fight.
Am pretty sure with your blindfolded watch u gonna be happy about it, u gonna win Daoc!!
Grats xD

I don't play after about 11.30 pm and have never AC'd a relic. I, like a large majoirty of the server, play to have fun in the 3 hours or so between work and bed. Yeah I will zerg everything because it's fun. Zerg running into zerg on a bridge with another zerg coming in from the other direction is what makes this game unique andfun. 40 less Hibs to fight - nice statistics but nothing to back it up. Everytime relics get taken or keeps change hands there are more people in frontiers not less. The majority of players hate static frontiers that deliver your nice even playing field. Even before the fgs rerolled they were always a minority of players who just happened to be vocal on here.

Frankly I won DaoC a long time ago because it has provided me with going on for 5 years of fun without pettiness, namecalling, bitterness and a desire for the empty respect of a tiny group of people who post on here.

 

[Gahn]

I don't play after about 11.30 pm and have never AC'd a relic. I, like a large majoirty of the server, play to have fun in the 3 hours or so between work and bed. Yeah I will zerg everything because it's fun. Zerg running into zerg on a bridge with another zerg coming in from the other direction is what makes this game unique andfun. 40 less Hibs to fight - nice statistics but nothing to back it up. Everytime relics get taken or keeps change hands there are more people in frontiers not less. The majority of players hate static frontiers that deliver your nice even playing field. Even before the fgs rerolled they were always a minority of players who just happened to be vocal on here.

Frankly I won DaoC a long time ago because it has provided me with going on for 5 years of fun without pettiness, namecalling, bitterness and a desire for the empty respect of a tiny group of people who post on here.

Yeh nothing to back it up :
Guilds Top 50 for Midgard on server Avalon
Ranked by Active Members
Rank Name Realm Points Last week Characters
Active / Total Active
Members
1 Beschützer von Mularn 6,079,941 0 1458 / 2355 888
2 Allianz des Nordens 323,415,332 2,628,930 320 / 391 91
3 Midgards Wächter 192,285,580 5,078,577 299 / 363 77
4 Valhallas Sturm 158,754,146 1,735,820 201 / 259 55
5 Weltenbrand 198,762,320 2,231,041 170 / 215 54
6 Black Flames 86,338,551 1,814,769 145 / 218 54
7 Schattenkrieger 186,698,864 692,893 139 / 183 53
8 Drachenritter 14,153,598 402,053 109 / 138 53
9 Thors Zorn 436,581,309 1,285,570 133 / 197 51
10 Loki's Büchsenklopper 93,753,589 1,094,282 172 / 225 50
11 Aegir-Abenteurer 3,507,086 0 59 / 108 44
12 Götterdämmerung 237,562,078 857,993 105 / 140 42
13 Frozen Flame 132,329,646 1,291,807 126 / 163 39
14 Die Ehrengarde 148,892,714 681,988 89 / 121 39
15 The Dragon Clan 165,983,875 1,542,099 133 / 166 37
16 Nordic Forces 58,705,813 233,848 177 / 198 36
17 Frostbringer 619,785,613 4,605,062 116 / 161 35
18 Fenris Welpen 40,596,378 240,099 98 / 143 35
19 Talamasca 283,641,268 4,106,048 135 / 147 34
20 Na Fianna Dragun 975 0 38 / 32 34

We were most active guild in Hib Pryd as u could have guessed from http://www.daoceuro.co.uk/.
Thx for driving us away from a shit server tho, so far Avalon is a beauty!

 

[Bracken]

you don't even know what effect all this retarded ACing has had on the FG scene since you don't interact with it, so I fail to see how valid your points actually are?

Because the ONLY reason the fg scene would be concerned about a relic changing hands is because of the 10% (they aren't going to be fussed about missing out on a keep siege). Which means that whereas we played with unbalanced relics for years and people just got on with it, it shows how f*cking anal people have become - which is as sad as it is pathetic.

If anything I think that you are branding me and all other people on the FG scene with a strongly opinionated and unfounded steriotype. Maybe if you actually engaged in conversation you'd see we are real people, we drink beer, we work and we definitely pay our subs.

That's f*cking rich given your long post about your realm mates.

 

[Javai]

Yeh nothing to back it up :
Guilds Top 50 for Midgard on server Avalon
Ranked by Active Members
Rank Name Realm Points Last week Characters
Active / Total Active
Members
1 Beschützer von Mularn 6,079,941 0 1458 / 2355 888
2 Allianz des Nordens 323,415,332 2,628,930 320 / 391 91
3 Midgards Wächter 192,285,580 5,078,577 299 / 363 77
4 Valhallas Sturm 158,754,146 1,735,820 201 / 259 55
5 Weltenbrand 198,762,320 2,231,041 170 / 215 54
6 Black Flames 86,338,551 1,814,769 145 / 218 54
7 Schattenkrieger 186,698,864 692,893 139 / 183 53
8 Drachenritter 14,153,598 402,053 109 / 138 53
9 Thors Zorn 436,581,309 1,285,570 133 / 197 51
10 Loki's Büchsenklopper 93,753,589 1,094,282 172 / 225 50
11 Aegir-Abenteurer 3,507,086 0 59 / 108 44
12 Götterdämmerung 237,562,078 857,993 105 / 140 42
13 Frozen Flame 132,329,646 1,291,807 126 / 163 39
14 Die Ehrengarde 148,892,714 681,988 89 / 121 39
15 The Dragon Clan 165,983,875 1,542,099 133 / 166 37
16 Nordic Forces 58,705,813 233,848 177 / 198 36
17 Frostbringer 619,785,613 4,605,062 116 / 161 35
18 Fenris Welpen 40,596,378 240,099 98 / 143 35
19 Talamasca 283,641,268 4,106,048 135 / 147 34
20 Na Fianna Dragun 975 0 38 / 32 34

We were most active guild in Hib Pryd as u could have guessed from http://www.daoceuro.co.uk/.
Thx for driving us away from a shit server tho, so far Avalon is a beauty!

Nice stats but they don't do anything to prove your points. If 40 of you rerolled but 40 low realm rank Hibs decided to come out to frontiers more because it is a more hospitable place with you gone then nothing has changed in the numbers of Hibs I have to fight. You might be right yet experience in the frontiers after relics have changed hands or when they are keep sieges going on suggests otherwise.

 

[Gahn]

Nice stats but they don't do anything to prove your points. If 40 of you rerolled but 40 low realm rank Hibs decided to come out to frontiers more because it is a more hospitable place with you gone then nothing has changed in the numbers of Hibs I have to fight. You might be right yet experience in the frontiers after relics have changed hands or when they are keep sieges going on suggests otherwise.

Doubtful, but u can dream, last week there were an average of 120 Hibs on line at any give night from /who.

 

[Rushie]

Because the ONLY reason the fg scene would be concerned about a relic changing hands is because of the 10% (they aren't going to be fussed about missing out on a keep siege). Which means that whereas we played with unbalanced relics for years and people just got on with it, it shows how f*cking anal people have become - which is as sad as it is pathetic.

wrong we couldnt give a flying fuck about the bonus or whatever, what does concern us is the actions of a few albs destroying the community that is this cluster as a whole, its already been shit lately for all forms of rvr coz contrary to ur narrow minded view of us we dont just do fg rvr.

in the past we could do nothing except sit back and take all the shit slung at alb in general from other realms, well this time we could do something about it and we did.

so quit crying like a bitch and go ac it again after its taken back.

 

[swords]

Except you still have the choice to play on Agramon as you have been doing without our interference because we chose to respect that as the 'fg' area. Not that any of us have been shown the same in-game respect by those who claim to want fg action not 'adding' at sieges and bridges etc but we have still stayed away.

Noone is forcing you (or anyone else) to defend or attack the relic. By lowering the level of the keep TT are making a decision for a whole realm. Yes taking a relic early in the morning also impacts the whole realm but I repeat it is up to individuals to decide to attack or defend it not up to an eight person guild to decide for everyone.

We go to Agramon because if you try and run FG rvr anywhere else the majority of the time you get added on from somewhere. Still get fights ruined by adds in Agramon occasionally, essentially we've been forced to go somewhere out of the way because of this.
I always thought ''adding'' during keep sieges iRvR etc was part and parcel of that kind of game (red = dead), you can't have one without the other or so I thought...
Hell, we've been forced to go Agramon for unspoilt FG fights for months now and you go on about making decisions?
Its such a shame NFD have been driven away aswell, they were such a great guild. Lots of different setups on different days to keep things fresh, regular pugs working with people new to Fg fighting so that kinda shoots down the whole l33tist GG thing. They were always polite and a pleasure to fight (check out the rhymin skills) plus they're a nice bunch IRL also.
Such a bloody shame realy.

 

[Eleasias]

Nice stats but they don't do anything to prove your points. If 40 of you rerolled but 40 low realm rank Hibs decided to come out to frontiers more because it is a more hospitable place with you gone then nothing has changed in the numbers of Hibs I have to fight. You might be right yet experience in the frontiers after relics have changed hands or when they are keep sieges going on suggests otherwise.

yes because its not like NFD isnt the biggest bunch of great persons who are a loss to any community they decide to leave? im sure it will become a lot more hospital to new people if NFD leaves

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Its such a shame NFD have been driven away aswell, ...
Such a bloody shame realy.

Hopefully they are all adults and make their own decisions. "They have been driven away" sounds just like badly written prosa and chicken-hearted.

I really don't care what you do with your keeps, but your whole argument about AC relic raids destroying FG fun is super flawed and pointless. Lick some dicks on IRC but don't prentend you do not do it here.

 

[>.< Pooned]

Just Report Them !!!!!!!1

ps: I'm sure that Sollers did it.

be sure that many did it!

 

[Bracken]

so quit crying like a bitch and go ac it again after its taken back.

I haven't "cried like a bitch" at all. I've said it was a ***** trick (which would have been the same whether there was a relic involved, to just give iRvR access or just give the keep as a gift to those sensitive souls in Hibernia who have all left because of AC raids). And I've never been on an AC raid - the closest I've got was to twice in 5 years stay on a raid that started in primetime into the early hours. Oh and please, cut the bullshit that you did this to save Albion's reputation from those who "sling shit" at it over the actions of 1 or 2 AC'ing groups. It just doesn't wash.

 

[Kinag]

If some people would stop playing/acting like idiots, then TT wouldn't have had to do this.

Sadly, that's not the case.

I remember AoD did this a year back or so, and we did get flamed to pieces, both in-game and on FH.

Didn't change much however, just gives you the pleasure of knowing how desperate people become that they sit infront of their computers getting all worked up over a virtual war.

You can't really plan to take action against something which quite alot of people condemn (like AC'ing) and expect no resistance, this time TT was the few who mustered up the so called resistance.

And I don't see how cutting them off raids and such are going to make them suffer, they get their enjoyment from rvr so who should they really care about?

 

[Bracken]

Its such a shame NFD have been driven away aswell, they were such a great guild.

Because of AC relic raids? I suppose they were upset at missing out on the large scale fights? Utter bollox man.

 

[>.< Pooned]

If some people would stop playing/acting like idiots, then TT wouldn't have had to do this.

Sadly, that's not the case.

I remember AoD did this a year back or so, and we did get flamed to pieces, both in-game and on FH.

Didn't change much however, just gives you the pleasure of knowing how desperate people become that they sit infront of their computers getting all worked up over a virtual war.

You can't really plan to take action against something which quite alot of people condemn (like AC'ing) and expect no resistance, this time TT was the few who mustered up the so called resistance.

And I don't see how cutting them off raids and such are going to make them suffer, they get their enjoyment from rvr so who should they really care about?

ye ok whatever u say......

downgrading a Relic keep isnt a great help for ur realm so why ur realm should help u in any way? c'est la vie ? (i may done some spelling mistakes in that)

 

[swords]

Lameass proAC nubling attitude, red = dead zerg everything fuck everyone else but me attitude seems more likely a candidate...

 

[Javai]

fuck everyone else but me attitude seems more likely a candidate...

The irony

 

[Deadweight89]

yes because its not like NFD isnt the biggest bunch of great persons who are a loss to any community they decide to leave? im sure it will become a lot more hospital to new people if NFD leaves

were actually the biggest bunch of baby eating, irc dick licking fuck tards on the server and the whole place is now a much happier place that we have left!
in fact all of the hibs we have been holding back will now be out in force as the flood gates open!!

<3 this thread, thanks for the fun TT!

 

[Kinag]

ye ok whatever u say......

downgrading a Relic keep isnt a great help for ur realm so why ur realm should help u in any way? c'est la vie ? (i may done some spelling mistakes in that)

What I don't understand is that people get all worked up over this when it's no big difference from what they are doing themselves.

They say it's destroying the spirit of the realm/game, but so are alarm clock raids as well.

None of the above are are decent things to do, but they're only doing what's necessary in their opinion.

 

[>.< Pooned]

were actually the biggest bunch of baby eating, irc dick licking fuck tards on the server and the whole place is now a much happier place that we have left!
in fact all of the hibs we have been holding back will now be out in force as the flood gates open!!

<3 this thread, thanks for the fun TT!

close the door behind u plz ^^ it gets cold ^^ /freeze

 

[Rushie]

I haven't "cried like a bitch" at all. I've said it was a ***** trick (which would have been the same whether there was a relic involved, to just give iRvR access or just give the keep as a gift to those sensitive souls in Hibernia who have all left because of AC raids). And I've never been on an AC raid - the closest I've got was to twice in 5 years stay on a raid that started in primetime into the early hours. Oh and please, cut the bullshit that you did this to save Albion's reputation from those who "sling shit" at it over the actions of 1 or 2 AC'ing groups. It just doesn't wash.

we didnt do it save albions reputation, its far to late for that. i was just making the point that in the past those who disagreed with the type of play that brings relics at silly oclock could do nothing about... but now we can. even if it is to late we are making a stand against this type of play when we have the oppurtunity to do so.

in the long run it will make little difference tbh as albs have proved they will do it time and time again. as usual when ppl see an oppurtunity to whine on fh they will, in the end its this thats sad and pointless.

 

[swords]

Hopefully they are all adults and make their own decisions. "They have been driven away" sounds just like badly written prosa and chicken-hearted.

I really don't care what you do with your keeps, but your whole argument about AC relic raids destroying FG fun is super flawed and pointless. Lick some dicks on IRC but don't prentend you do not do it here.

WHAT IS THE OBSESSION WITH PHALLIC LENGTHS! spank the monkey before posting, get it out of your systems

I wonder why people have rerolled, perhaps we should ask them?
People who have rerolled, has the ACing by Albion influenced the decision to reroll at all?

 

[Bracken]

Lameass proAC nubling attitude, red = dead zerg everything fuck everyone else but me attitude seems more likely a candidate...

Listen to yourself. You're sounding more like a **** every minute.

 

[>.< Pooned]

What I don't understand is that people get all worked up over this when it's no big difference from what they are doing themselves.

They say it's destroying the spirit of the realm/game, but so are alarm clock raids as well.

None of the above are are decent things to do, but they're only doing what's necessary in their opinion.

the problem is that some people(and i know some) cant play at our prime time but they work late at nights or something so they can play at graveyard time (always from our pov) can we tell em what time should they play? i think not. can we downgrade all keeps for our friends hibs/mids to take em and take all our relics, ofc not! this is a war game not a relic trade section.

 

[swords]

**** **** **** **** **** ****

 

[Deadweight89]

close the door behind u plz ^^ it gets cold ^^ /freeze

only if you remember to turn the lights off!

 

[Muppet]

Again, people mistakenly thinking this has anything to do with IRC or people from the other realms.
I suppose you have to latch onto something to attempt to discredit us, though to be honest i'd rather not be associated with Albion if this is all its about. Theres no skill or honour amongst any of you, no sense that this is a game and that there are real people playing with and against you, no sense that we're all in this to enjoy the game and make something of it.
You have been destroying the community for a long time and have the audacity to lay the same accusations on TT. I don't know who half the people are anymore but its been a VERY long time since anything of value or substance appeared in the relic taking/ keep siege department. Gone are the days of people like Herbal leading large raids against the enemy realms and organising the defence of our own realm (primetime might I add). Gone are the days of honour and substance, you have left Albion a husk of what it once was and continue to bleed dry the other realms until there will be nothing more of this game and this cluster.
The one thing that kept me playing these past few months was the enjoyment of the FG scene, though its ups and downs at least it managed to maintain some iota of respect between players (as is evident here). Respect isn't bought, it is given to those deemed worthy of it, which is why I have no respect for Albion as a rule. Those I do respect know who they are and those in the other realms know aswell.
You can say we are not part of Albion, exclude us from all raids, bar us from taking keeps and participating in relic raids. I for one will be thankful not to be associated with those have done a very good job in raping what little pride and spirit I had left for the realm and the game as a whole.
Good luck in your endeavours, for someday soon you will wrench out the heart of the server and hold it aloft for all to see.

Very moving, yet TT made the choice of doing this lvl 1 keep trick and thus will have to deal with the consequences.

So to sum this all up for you TT crew, you think the following :

Setting a keep to lvl 1 and denying other albions to take it over is an ok thing.
My question here for you is - what is the difference between holding a keep
on lvl 1 on purprose and releasing it?

Ill give you the answer - you make sure no other albs can take it and upgrade it, let alone creating a permanent advantage for the enemy.

Your argument about sieging a keep instead of defending is yet another failed attempt, to tell players that pay their own subs, to do things the way you think it should be done (which makes your respect and honorable argument go down the drain as well).
Yet you still fail to stop and think a moment that you are in no position to dictate other players how to play. If you want such a position then goodluck applying for a job with the GOA-crew.

Then, you say that its so easy to do a keep take. Yet Ive never seen TT do any,
or make an effort to organise anything for Albion as a realm.
Yet, you think its a logic and easy thing to do a keep take.

Which basically brings me to the following conclusion :

YOu claim keep takes are easy; yet will not (so far) make an effort to organise any.
Even better, if you made a little setup on the albion forum on how you think
it would be done might actually help.
You are the so called "best guild of albion" so why not honor that title.
(not telling you to do it, just suggesting)

Because what is it that actually makes you say "Im an alb"? Just because of
the classes/ranks/title "best guild of albion"? By the sounds of it you enjoy
albion alot less then either of the enemy realms; yet fail to do anything to
improve it.

Heh, also if all the hibs that claimed they were leaving actually left, who will
you fight then?
Will you quit shortly as well then? and will all this grieving over a keep and
dissing your own realm just be a matter of principal just to make your point
to the AC-ers?
If so then windraven was right and your just extremely selfish and extremely
arrogant to make that decision for 400 albion players.

 

[Bracken]

People who have rerolled, has the ACing by Albion influenced the decision to reroll at all?

Why would it? If it's fg fights they want then why? 10% bonus? Shows just how anal it's become. Missing out on large scale battles? Er I dont think so. It's bollox and you know it.