wtf are we gone get now ?

[Blow]

TT and Asylum are in the same alliance.

from now on i will ignore all guilds/people from that alliance.

if i ever wil get a relic again with my group then it will be placed in a keep that is not claimed by a guild from that alliance.

If you dont agree with a late night relic take, then you just dont help defending it when the enemy is trying to take it and just release the keep if you own that keep that hold that relic.

Release it will give you fame to the enemies (not to all).

Im gonna send an email to mythic to ask if they can do something about this, like: if a keep that holds a enemy relic is set to lvl 1, that the keep is either getting released, or the relic can be picked up , or the relic can be auto transported to the highest lvl keep in that realm.

I dont care if that relic is gonna be taken by hibs/mids at what time, but like those fake alb guilds that setting keeps to lvl 1 is most pathetic ever.

 

[Bracken]

Sorry but Alb never actually try and take them..
The only people that do take them do so at 4am.

Stop whining about how your being denyed the chance at a defence already, it's pathetic.
If you want mass scale keep rvr so badly then you can go generate it whenever you want.. you don't need a relic taken at 2am to do it! Yet I bet that after the relic gets taken back no-one try's anything primetime until something gets alarm clocked again..

I've yet to see ANY of the albs whining in this post actually attempt a primetime relic raid in the last year.. If your not prepared to organise a raid to take them fairly then stop complaining that your being denied a chance to defend them fairly, it's got nothing to do with a relic defence, it's just your upset because your going to lose your precious damage bonus for RP farming! Pathetic..

Hmmm you can do better than that. Usually such an intelligent poster and yet you've come out with this rubbish

1. I was part of a prime-time attempt on Midgard (ok not Hib but still) a couple of weeks back. Unsuccessful but an attempt nonetheless.
2. My points are not about the relic - I've already said I couldn't care less if it gets taken back. It's about the whole way this has been carried out. I don't like AC raids either, but I think this is a whole new level of c*ntishness.
3. You really think I'm the slightest bit concerned about damage bonus? F*ck me, I thought at the very least you'd realise I really don't take my char that seriously.

 

[Soulja_IA_]

If you play alb for 2 months you find out that its THE most disorganised realm ever.
I really hate the fact that I missed out on the 'succesfull' (debatable) raid novus coeptum did on midgard fairly recently.

And I do blame the relic pve-ers, but I cant do anything about it, as Kirennia mentioned as well.
Instead me and other prime-time players are trying to make the best of it by defending the relic rather then just to give it away.

Well I like to defend the relic as much as you like to defend it but I would like to do it at a Sociable Hour you rolled alb and know that it is most populated of the 3 realms but yet they Cannot not manage a primetime Relic Raid.

Soulja

 

[Kvadi]

Please do realise that this action WILL affect those people that play prime-time.

Please do realise that the AC action already HAS affected many others that also play prime-time. Ofc they don't matter, if they're not playing Albion.

ps Apologies to all the decent Albion players out there who might be offended by my sarcasm.

 

[Soulja_IA_]

TT and Asylum are in the same alliance.

from now on i will ignore all guilds/people from that alliance.

if i ever wil get a relic again with my group then it will be placed in a keep that is not claimed by a guild from that alliance.

If you dont agree with a late night relic take, then you just dont help defending it when the enemy is trying to take it and just release the keep if you own that keep that hold that relic.

Release it will give you fame to the enemies (not to all).

Im gonna send an email to mythic to ask if they can do something about this, like: if a keep that holds a enemy relic is set to lvl 1, that the keep is either getting released, or the relic can be picked up , or the relic can be auto transported to the highest lvl keep in that realm.

I dont care if that relic is gonna be taken by hibs/mids at what time, but like those fake alb guilds that setting keeps to lvl 1 is most pathetic ever.

IF YOU EVER GET ANOTHER RELIC ROFL this made me fucking fall off my chair OF Course you get another Relic you Tosser lol you just Pve it as fucking usual and as for ignoring TT/Asylum Take note you they showed more respect for the other realms than CM Ever has infact most of all flame over Relics has been what CM have done.

Soulja

 

[Javai]

Suprised this hasn't been related to a RL war and what'd happen to anyone commiting treason yet

It's ofc nothing like it. The thing is you guys who prefer to fight fg vs fg do nothing but bang on about people respecting your fights and playstyle. The actions taken today show you do not show the same respect to others playstyles. Downgrading the keep is within the code of conduct (well we'll see about that when GoA reply to my questions about it) - so is 'adding' on every fight on Agramon except you want people to respect that and stay away why can't you show those who like to siege the same respect?

I don't personally care about the relic either way it's more fun for me personally when keeps and/or relics change hands regularly as I enjoy siegeing. However, I do not think it is up to one (small) guild to decide something for an entire realm, it is extremely arrogant. It is up to each individual to decide whether to defend a relic taken at whatever time of day not up to you to decide for everyone.

 

[Digi]

Sorry but Alb never actually try and take them..
The only people that do take them do so at 4am.

Stop whining about how your being denyed the chance at a defence already, it's pathetic.
If you want mass scale keep rvr so badly then you can go generate it whenever you want.. you don't need a relic taken at 2am to do it! Yet I bet that after the relic gets taken back no-one try's anything primetime until something gets alarm clocked again..

I've yet to see ANY of the albs whining in this post actually attempt a primetime relic raid in the last year.. If your not prepared to organise a raid to take them fairly then stop complaining that your being denied a chance to defend them fairly, it's got nothing to do with a relic defence, it's just your upset because your going to lose your precious damage bonus for RP farming! Pathetic..

Thats how i see this too you like the rvr Ac bring but just look at it from this pov alot of you just like to wait in a lvl 10 keep with 10% bouns to dmg and just farm Rp It maybe be fun. But when it happen's all the time player's just cba with getting the Bg together to take the Relic back. If hib or mids did a ac Raid would alb get a bg together in PT and attack or just ac it back and wait for the others realms to put the Fun back into rvr as you call it, I'm Not saying alb would not do a PT Raid to get a AC relic back but its Very unlikey.


Just alot of you want all the Fun without the work. Sorry if you cant see it or you just dont get what im saying.

 

[Muppet]

Well I like to defend the relic as much as you like to defend it but I would like to do it at a Sociable Hour you rolled alb and know that it is most populated of the 3 realms but yet they Cannot not manage a primetime Relic Raid.

Soulja

heh even better, when the hib power relic was taken last time (and hib were coming to retake it; announced) and someone was really trying to make an effort at getting defense set up, he failed just because of people disagreeing with him. its rubbish and it pains me to see that people actually react so disrespectfull to someone thats really trying to organise something.

And I do agree that its totally not fun that you couldnt defend, yet its something I cannot influence sadly.

Please do realise that the AC action already HAS affected many others that also play prime-time. Ofc they don't matter, if they're not playing Albion.

yes sadly it did (and it does matter) and yet there was/is nothing in my power that I can change that (since Im not doing any AC-ing myself).

 

[Blow]

IF YOU EVER GET ANOTHER RELIC ROFL this made me fucking fall off my chair OF Course you get another Relic you Tosser lol you just Pve it as fucking usual and as for ignoring TT/Asylum Take note you they showed more respect for the other realms than CM Ever has infact most of all flame over Relics has been what CM have done.

Soulja

We did not take any relics last couple of months, and we (CM) did not take it last night. you totally missing out my point.

Your reaction is proberly 10-15 years below your age. You dont read, you just reply and try to be funny.

People from CM are albs, and they are not people like TT/Asylum that try to weaken the albs to get a good feeling from hib/mid

 

[Sharkith]

It has been asked plenty of times before to be stopped and everytime has been ignored. This time it has been shown just how frustrating it is to be ignored by a request. Were this a primetime keep take, this would have been a completely different story.

/salute and goodbaye Kirennia and TT.

Some of the best people we ever saw and played against. This is a stlong symbol of how you feel. A lot won't understand many of us do. You guys were right easily 20-30 in a new guild on Avalon tonight - because of this.

Your solidarity won't let you reroll with us for now. All of you are welcome over there if this gets more bad than it is. Speak to Crom and the gang - I for one would always stand by you - the soundest enemy we ever met.

To the rest of you - they are doing what should have been done by albs-mid and hib a long time ago. TT and Asylum and others have tried to show that this about a community trying to find its way. All the repiles here do is nail the coffin of the community that created them.

Muly you started this thread. NOw answer this: The sad thing is we both missed the fact that you were talking about how things are. I spent all my time talking about how things could be. For me that belief is over - TT are right easily 30-50 chars left the server tonight because of the raid. What you never understood is that what I could see was in fact how things were for an awful lot of us. Your reality was a straw man - now continue to pull it apart or wake up friend and smell the coffee.

goodnight all.

Hopeless - we believed we could have something going here - yes sorry we were wrong. (will pm this because it is going to get drowned out by whine)

 

[tierk]

Are you even online atm? I guessing not, otherwise that post made u look like a twat ....

Well tbh u r the one looking like a twat. I have spent the last seven hours leading the realm defense bg in hib.

My point, which obviously failed to get through your thick head is that if people want to have keep fights and defense then why dont they just do keep takes at prime time. Defend or take em instead of some uselss nubbers taking keeps at a ungodly hour and try to justify it by saying they doing it to make more action in frontiers, when they quite clearly are not doing so themselves?

Could it be cuz they are full of shit and the reason for the lack of prime raids (and by raids i dont mean just relic raids but just plain keep takes) is cuz noone actually wants to do keep takes? If the Ac crew, whoever they be, love the keep takes why dont they do keep takes at a hour were there are people online to fight against?

And for the orignal poster i have to say mule you are really funny. You can see that what TT are doing is effecting yer whole realm and pisses you off but refuse to understand that the actions of the night crew is effecting a entire server?

I mean you would have thought that with two realms perma camped in yer frontiers last time you decided to pve the relics might have given you a clue to what the vaste majority of the server thought of your actions (many albs included me thinks) but i guess that in your own little world of whats right and wrong you are blind to the fact that you are affecting everyone on this server with this crap.

For those trying to justify this current trend by the night crews by stating that in OF albs were without relics for 2+ years correct me if i am wrong but what was the server population of albs at that time like compared to now? There were more albs then there are flies on shit and what u lacked from the relics u more then made up with yer over sized zergging.

But anyway keep up the good work and be totaly blind to the damage you people are doing to this server with these actions and watch as slowly but surely what litlte rvr there is on this server diminshes to nothing.

 

[Arethir]

I can so see this discussion going places...

Lowering the lvl of the keep will encourage enemies into attacking the keep, which will improve the current state of "bridge-RvR"? If you want to defend a keep, this will make more enemies come to try take it?

The reason we did it is simple. We had the option. Not in a million years would the hibs be able to retake the relic prime-time against a high level keep and a trunk-load of defending albs. This evens out the odds a little.

If you want prime-time siege RVR, then please, go ahead and attack some keeps, it's not hard. And I'm sure you'll get plenty of defenders at that time. If you only want to defend, and not attack, well then guess what, the enemies might want that aswell.

PS: The cookies were lovely and tasted great!

PPS: I think I ate to many though

 

[Golena]

Hmmm you can do better than that. Usually such an intelligent poster and yet you've come out with this rubbish

Even the most intelligent people (and i'm probably not one of them) need to spam some crap once in a while..

1. I was part of a prime-time attempt on Midgard (ok not Hib but still) a couple of weeks back. Unsuccessful but an attempt nonetheless.

Here's sort of my point. You were part of one a few weeks ago.. if people really want the zerg v zerg keep battles, don't you think you'd be able to point at more than maybe 4 attempts (and i'm not sure I can even think of that many) in the last 6 months?

2. My points are not about the relic - I've already said I couldn't care less if it gets taken back. It's about the whole way this has been carried out. I don't like AC raids either, but I think this is a whole new level of c*ntishness.

The issue is that the albs arn't getting a chance to defend right? The same way the hibs didn't get given a chance to defend when the relic was originally taken. If all the hibs just said, sod it can't be arsed taking back the relic since your just going to AC it again then you wouldn't get any kind of defence either. By lowering the keep they are actually giving hibs an incentive to attack it primetime and supply the Albs with some defending fun. Leave it at level 10 and it would probably just of got AC'ed back in a week and the people compaining would of got even less enjoyment out of it than they currently are. The only issue would be for the roleplaying aspect, but that side of the game rvr wise passed a good long time ago.

3. You really think I'm the slightest bit concerned about damage bonus? F*ck me, I thought at the very least you'd realise I really don't take my char that seriously.

Trust me, I know your not one of the people to care about stuff like that. Last time we AC'ed the relics and the keep was kept at level 10 all we got was people coming here to flame about hib and mid ganging up on us.. My point is that it really doesn't matter what happened. It doesn't matter if 1fg hib druids turned up in primetime, wiped out the alb zerg using superior tactics and took the relic home. People would still come here and whine about it.
Alb took the relics in what all but a few people consider lame and pathetic tactics for not the first time and i'm sure not the last time. At the moment it's Alb that are complaining that they arn't getting a chance to defend, and it's mostly the same people that jumped to the defences of the AC'ers when Mids and Hibs complainined about not getting to defend when it was AC'ed.
Everytime people get deprived of a relic defence then there's toys flying out of prams all over the forums.. yet look at how many primetime relic raids have been arranged in the last month. I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's less than 2. The game is far too full of people sitting around on their home bridge waiting for someone else to organise some fun for them, then whining if enough fun isn't supplied, which is a far bigger problem with the state of the game than anything TT are doing. If this was a single player game i'm actually convinced that 50% of the server would still be sitting in the starting town wondering why they were still level 1 and trying to beg their trainer into handing over some cash.

 

[Fatload BoysDoCry]

Bottom line is some people view AC raids as lame, but they are within the CoC, some people view lowering the keep to lv1 as lame, but its within the CoC. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Its like stealthzerging your way to a high RR and then whining about people adding on you tough shit i think the phrase is

 

[Arethir]

I don't personally care about the relic either way it's more fun for me personally when keeps and/or relics change hands regularly as I enjoy siegeing.

Now, how is lowering this keep to level 1 keeping you from sieging? By all means, go ahead and siege all you want. If you want enemies while at it, you know what to do. And even if they do get their relic back, you can still siege stuff, can't you?

People gotta realize, defending is fun, attacking gets dull. Defending you most lightly get the superior numbers, whilst at attacking you have to release when you die, take a long boat ride to get there, hug the walls without anywhere to hide etc. Defending is easier. And more fun. Hibs wanted to defend their relic. They didn't get the chance.

 

[swords]

Its not a shit trick bracken, its a message and a clear one at that.
A shit trick would be taking the relic and dropping it outside a hib keep for someone to pick up!

 

[Soulja_IA_]

We did not take any relics last couple of months, and we (CM) did not take it last night. you totally missing out my point.

Your reaction is proberly 10-15 years below your age. You dont read, you just reply and try to be funny.

People from CM are albs, and they are not people like TT/Asylum that try to weaken the albs to get a good feeling from hib/mid

TBH if anyone has had an influence in trying to destroy a server it is CM my reaction as you put it is probably what a hell of a lot of people think of you guild.

I don't try to be funny it was funny with you post where you tried to Act so mature but failed miserably.

Yes CM are Albs so are TT/Asylum but at least these players see the way CM play the game is soul destroying with AC Relic Raiding and keep taking in other frontiers at shyt o clock in morning and where people Like Muppet who wants these at a Primetime hour would like to join in the Fun.

Keep Pveing guards seems that is what CM are good at if you and CM had anysort of Balls you try and lead a primetime raid but would be as rare as rocking horse shit in CM ever trying to do that.

Soulja

 

[gravedigger]

well since i see lot of albs whine its 24/7 game well wont it be now?

i mean TT is downgrading renaris so what? lot of you wanted 24/7 rvr game , well you will get it , now you wont have to take keeps hib/mid will prolly knock on the renaris keep anyday day most likely soon anyway , so you will get lots of rps from it (thats what you want anyway)

TT always has been a respectable guild for lot of years , dont really see the point hackin on em cous they did this , they pay THERE subs also you know and play how they feel like also , not like CM etc who have to pve keeps (take relics) whenever they feel like

they should be happy tbh when they come home late night now they can stay at lord renaris till they fall asleep now (defendin)

common be honest they want siege , so imho i think they got :england:

 

[Javai]

Keep Pveing guards seems that is what CM are good at if you and CM had anysort of Balls you try and lead a primetime raid but would be as rare as rocking horse shit in CM ever trying to do that.

Soulja

How exactly are they supposed to lead raids at times they can't be on-line? The whole point was they play at different times to the 'standard' peak time.

CM get a really bad press on these forums but you can be sure that when you are struggling to defend at the end of a long evening it will be CM who still have siege equipment and are there retaking keeps and towers with the rest of the BG.

 

[Soulja_IA_]

How exactly are they supposed to lead raids at times they can't be on-line? The whole point was they play at different times to the 'standard' peak time.

CM get a really bad press on these forums but you can be sure that when you are struggling to defend at the end of a long evening it will be CM who still have siege equipment and are there retaking keeps and towers with the rest of the BG.

Only thing CM do is piss people off if they were anygood they try doing keeptakes/Relic Raids when people are online and not in they bed.

They get the BAD Press on these forums because they do this.If they have problems with not finding people at they hour then they should of rerolled on another server long long time ago if they wanted action.
The thing is they didn't as they would of met other players and not the so called easy guards that they find now.

Soulja

 

[Ethild]

I have read random posts in this thread ... and I still have no idea what's going on. So I will leave you with this useful comment :

"Sup?".

 

[Sharkith]

How exactly are they supposed to lead raids at times they can't be on-line? The whole point was they play at different times to the 'standard' peak time.

CM get a really bad press on these forums but you can be sure that when you are struggling to defend at the end of a long evening it will be CM who still have siege equipment and are there retaking keeps and towers with the rest of the BG.

This is not about CM - lets be clear. They did their best to sort things out.

This is about how all of us failed to agree how we could play together. This is about the failure of a community to survive. This thread simply confirms what a lot of us already know.

 

[[HB]Jpeg]

not been ingame but seems mids and hibs working together?

u all whine its spoiling the game and then u both go cross realm (impossible to do that without some sort of cross realm comunication) and IMO thats much much worse than a AC raid.

AC raid = not against COC
Obviously Communicated mid+hib raid = against coc.

so IMO hibs and mids get evertthingthey deserve stooping low as to communicate a hibgard raid.

 

[swords]

Again, people mistaking opportunism for X realming

 

[Gazon]

This is what happens if you play for the respect of your irc buddies and all others are considered not worthy to be in the game.

 

[Muylaetrix]

1.38 AM CET renaris is still level 9 although it has been set to level 1 like 5-6 hours ago.

unless TT is exploiting a Bug, (rofl) mythic code says that a keep with a relic in it can not be lowered in level ...

conclusion :

non prime time raids = part of the game.

treason against the own realm = not permitted by even the game code = they can`t be banned for acting against SoTG as they didn`t do anything wrong, unless they lowered the keep to save on BP via an exploit.

thank you very much.



i wonder if TT is still paying full upkeep cost

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Really don't care about this all much but to say that level 9-10 keeps and taken relics have driven every good guild away from the cluster can not be beaten in stupidity.

Mono-causal arguments for the win.

 

[Arethir]

True, thread ain't about CM. Just wanna say though, that i agree CM can be alot of help at times ingame, and they do provide alot of help to defend the realm and their realmmates.

Personally I've never had any issues with any CM member ingame, and ingame they've always seemed to me like a great bunch of friendly and helpfull people. The only difference i see, is that they enjoy some different aspects of the game than i do. Even though lately they have been closing more and more up to the parts of the game that i enjoy (ie i've seen a fair share of their members out in the fg RvR, not adding, not jumping people who are resting, and withstanding all of the "unwritten rules of Agramon").

Also, afaik CM wasn't even on this raid, so there's no reason to bring them up on the subject. They didn't AC this time. Though i can understand why you use them as an excample, this time they are not to blame.

 

[[HB]Jpeg]

one thing i have to disagree with very strogngly in this thread is.... People saying cos sum AC a relic that it will kill server and groups will re-roll.

TBh if they really think 1 relic is such an imbalance that they need reroll then good riddance. they obviously must be shit groups if 1 relic makes such a big difference.

 

[Arethir]

1.38 AM CET renaris is still level 9 although it has been set to level 1 like 5-6 hours ago.
i wonder if TT is still paying full upkeep cost

You of all people should know this much about keeps :X They take TIME to downgrade, the same they do when they upgrade.
And yes, ofc we have to pay the bp's, it'll go lower soon though so let's hope we don't run out!