Football World Cup 2010.

[Calaen]

I agree with Raven's selection, Barry and he better get told to fucking sit. Lamps in CM. Gerard behind ROoney, Cole and lennon on flanks.

 

[rynnor]

I agree with Raven's selection, Barry and he better get told to fucking sit. Lamps in CM. Gerard behind ROoney, Cole and lennon on flanks.

Yes - I wonder why Capello doesnt do that - does he know something we dont perhaps?

 

[Calaen]

Yes - I wonder why Capello doesnt do that - does he know something we dont perhaps?

Well non of the managers do it So there is clearly something going on that we don't know about!

 

[rynnor]

Well non of the managers do it So there is clearly something going on that we don't know about!

Can it be something as petty as the players around them dont get on do you think?

 

[Scouse]

It's either do that, or bench Lampard. Capello needs to pick one...

 

[Aada]

I think we will get through the group but after that who knows, I think Capello will play the 451 formation everyone is screaming at him to do. Basically I think we will see a very different England on Wednesday at least I hope we will.

 

[Turamber]

For a start, Heskey was gash in the last game. But you'd bench Rooney over Heskey?

Rooney has done nothing in two games, he needs a kick up the backside.

Heskey wasn't as effective against Algeria as he was against the States yet his ability to win the ball in the final third gave us our best chances. He was also one of only three or four to actually bust a gut in that game, his covering for Stevie Me-Me as he went rampaging around the pitch doing feck all was most impressive.

Also Heskey has created our only goal to date in this World Cup.

I don't mind change if change wins games, but calling him names and saying he is rubbish is revisionism of the worst kind. Or simple blindness.

 

[Scouse]

Heskey is only there for him to create space for Rooney. Capello himself has said so...

 

[Ch3tan]

In the systems suggested so far, the problem is that you are all still asking Lampard to play as a central midfielder. Yes Gerrard is lethal supporting a striker, but Lampard plays that role very well for Chelski too. Play Gerrard in central midfield, and Lamps up top.

The alternative is drop Lamps, and play Carrick or Milner in midfield.

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Now if only Heskey would realise the same.

 

[Raven]

Lampard plays box to box, he would be ideal in playing that role for England with Gerrard sitting behind Rooney with a bit more of a free role.

 

[Turamber]

Heskey is only there for him to create space for Rooney. Capello himself has said so...

I'd like to see that quote. And somebody should tell Heskey, all that running around winning headers, tackling defenders and passing the ball to Gerrard for our only goal so far.

I know it is a shocking thought, but perhaps Rooney is out of form and should be dropped? Ditto Lampard. As long as England keeps picking players who play for "big clubs" no matter how half-arsed they look on the pitch we'll never do a thing.

We need a new Alf Ramsey. He wasn't afraid to drop Jimmy Greaves, the superstar of his day, and play less fancied players who actually fit the system and played with some heart.

I don't mind change, and the manager can drop Heskey. But if he doesn't win the game he'll have a lot of explaining why he dropped our most effective player thus far.

 

[Turamber]

Lampard plays box to box, he would be ideal in playing that role for England with Gerrard sitting behind Rooney with a bit more of a free role.

Gerrard abandoned his position on the left wing to play behind Rooney for long stretches of the game last week. Net result = bugger all.

 

[Fweddy]

The England team went out to visit an orphanage in Cape Town on Saturday morning. "It's good to put a smile on the faces of people with no hope, constantly struggling and facing the impossible," said Jamal Umboto, aged 6.

 

[chipper]

Gerrard abandoned his position on the left wing to play behind Rooney for long stretches of the game last week. Net result = bugger all.

you cant rely on 1 attacking formation to produce goals, if joe cole had been on the left firing crosses in along with lennon we would have seen a much better attacking team. the formation is all fucked up just to accomodate lampard. we had our right flank exposed for a good portion of that match if we had been up against a big team we would have been punished heavily.

either ditch lampard and switch gerrard to CM and take joe cole into left wing or switch to a 4-5-1 and fuck heskey off to accomodate lampard in midfield. i am positive such a switch to either of these formations will have a positive impact on the game.

 

[Bahumat]

They should use a 4-2-3-1 much like how Brazil play as we have suitable players for this.

........................Rooney...........................
...........J.Cole....Lampard....Gerrard.............
...................Barry......Carrick....................
A.Cole..........Terry......Carragher.....Johnson

Gerrard as the right sided attacking midfielder as he's quicker than Frank plus his crossing is much better.

I believe Ashley Cole has the stamina to bomb up and down the line all day. I don't know about Johnson, but you'd have Gerrard who could go out wide to cross whilst Carrick pushes up a little more in support.

 

[Scouse]

Gerrard abandoned his position on the left wing to play behind Rooney for long stretches of the game last week. Net result = bugger all.

Jeesus Turamber. And I suppose you think Gerrard was still on the left wing to supply himself, right?

I know you're a Villa fan, but do you actually watch any matches?

 

[Turamber]

I'm not surprised you didn't notice, I don't think any of you notice stuff commentators don't point out :S

 

[Scouse]

I did notice. It was an obvious product of the flawed system Capello is playing.

I'm not surprised you didn't notice that Heskey was total gash in the last game tho.

 

[Ch3tan]

What did you expect Gerrard to do on the left if not cut in to the middle? It's his natural instinct, he is not a winger.

You are good at pointing out flaws until it concerns a Villa player Turamber, and then you go into cookoo land.

 

[Raven]

Its true facts that you have to go to Villa Park every other week to know anything about football.

 

[Turamber]

I'm not surprised you didn't notice that Heskey was total gash in the last game tho.

That would be ... because he wasn't. Even some of the media outlets that have been his number one critics gave him equal highest ratings along with Barry and James.

Total gash is a description that should be retained for Rooney and Lampard over both games thus far, but they appear to be above criticism here -- presumably because of all the plastic big four fans and their strange view of the game.

 

[DaGaffer]

That would be ... because he wasn't. Even some of the media outlets that have been his number one critics gave him equal highest ratings along with Barry and James.

Total gash is a description that should be retained for Rooney and Lampard over both games thus far, but they appear to be above criticism here -- presumably because of all the plastic big four fans and their strange view of the game.

I'm a United fan and thought Rooney was utter shite in both games. Still doesn't alter the fact that Heskey can't score goals and England desperately need a cutting edge he can't fit into. Whether you like it or not, England are in last throw of the dice territory here, and playing 4-4-2 isn't working with this group of players, and Heskey is unneccessary in a 4-5-1.

 

[ST^]

I have a feeling Capello won't change the system. He would be admitting that his tactics are wrong, rather than the players not executing them properly.

 

[Scouse]

Total gash is a description that should be retained for Rooney and Lampard over both games thus far, but they appear to be above criticism here

I've said Rooney was rubbish. I've repeatedly called for the benching of Lampard.

Are you beginning to realise that you talk shit most of the time yet?

 

[DaGaffer]

I have a feeling Capello won't change the system. He would be admitting that his tactics are wrong, rather than the players not executing them properly.

In which case England will lose and Capello will be sacked. Its as simple as that. And because the FA are a bunch of fuckwits Capello will walk off with millions. For a 64 year old its a win-win for him (because ultimately the rest of the world will blame England's "stupid" players, not the manager with a cupboard full of silverware).

 

[Turamber]

Whether you like it or not, England are in last throw of the dice territory here, and playing 4-4-2 isn't working with this group of players, and Heskey is unneccessary in a 4-5-1.

Oh I agree, we have to try something different and see what happens. But labelling a player "shit" when they're few of a handful to have done anything of note is pretty pathetic.

I also don't agree with picking players on reputations, Lampard hasn't had a good World Cup finals game as far back as I can remember and is picked purely because he is a Chelsea player.

 

[megadave]

So it has nothing to do with being one of the best players in the league consistently for several years?

 

[chipper]

unbelievable game between france v south africa

france down to 10 men and goal down!

 

[Moriath]

hahaha france

 

[Deebs]

unbelievable game between france v south africa

france down to 10 men and goal down!

Fucking awesome result