Wild West Mafia, Game#1

[Levin]

Unvote: Jimmy

Well, at least there's still life in him.

Will, I am inclined to agree with your logic. I hate to vote for either of these two as they are both vocal and seemingly trying to help the town here, but if there's a 50% chance someone is a bad guy then i guess that's as good as it'll get. Let me just get something understood here first. Was Ch3tan jailed on the first night, or the second night?

 

[old.Tohtori]

Unvote: Jimmy

Well, at least there's still life in him.

Will, I am inclined to agree with your logic. I hate to vote for either of these two as they are both vocal and seemingly trying to help the town here, but if there's a 50% chance someone is a bad guy then i guess that's as good as it'll get. Let me just get something understood here first. Was Ch3tan jailed on the first night, or the second night?

First like me, him by Random, me by Iceforge. But none of us know anything about that, it's only their claim that we are.

If you want logic between me and Ch3tan:

Ch3tan didn't vote for Golena.
Ch3tan had words with ECA before the night ECA was killed.
ECA changed his vote from Ch3tan just before the night to kill Rubric, so Ch3tan wouldn't look at all guilty if ECA was killed.
Ch3tan is hellbent on hanging our "claimed Sheriff".

This is only in the case if you believe Iceforge and RandomBastard, otherwise, should choose between them.

If you wish to hang me, hang me then, but atleast i'm going to bring up the failure of logic in choosing me over Ch3tan.

 

[Iceforge]

Seems to be lots of "misunderstands" around these parts. Makes me nervous, makes my trigger finger nervous. You are all mightly lucky I hung up my guns long ago.

Iceforge, pardner, you have hung yourself out to dry. There is no way to prove what you say other than by your death. You managed to "miss" random coming out as a deputy, you "missed" the nature of ECA's death. You think that a bandit/townie would actually come out and make the claim of being a deputy on the second day after your claim that there was not one. Too risky for that person, I do not see anyone doing it.

The one thing in your favour right now is no counter-claim to being the sherrif, however thats a dangerous game to play if you really are the sherrif. I have a very easy way for you to prove who you are. Deputise me.

*waits*

You totally ignore the truth of this situation, Ch3tan!

IF I was lying, then I had NO WAY to know if anyone was deputized yesterday. Which means that IF I was lying, then an INNOCENT person most likely WOULD have been deputized. That means an INNOCENT would claim being deputized to get rid of the fraud sherif.

It is only if I am truely the sherif that a bandit would have to claim being deputized to get me killed. Which means that in the situation you so nicely put out that no bandit is going to claim being deputized after I said I didn't deputize anyone, in that situation which you have a problem with, I would have to be the sherif and telling the truth!

So what truely your problem?

Think about it, seriously, because your claim is that IF I am telling the truth (and thus innocent) then no bandit would claim deputy (as that would be their doom) which makes me suspect (ignoring that you already put me off as innocent for the entire claim to make sense)

What if I was a bandit falsely claiming being sherif? Why will the one deputized yesterday not step forward?
There would be NO reason for a townie who was deputized not to step forward; I already said to you all that if ANYONE claims being deputized, then you should lynch me, and when you see that I am a sherif, you will know your next target. If that was a bluff, a townie claiming would mean my death and if I was lying it would reveal me as not-sherif = no reason to lynch whoever claimed being deputized.

I just can't see how that can be so hard to understand

 

[Will]

Since no one has spoken up to say they are the sherrif, I'm tending to agree with Iceforge. RandomBastard hasn't proved his innocence by becoming deputy, but the odds look better for a Ch3t/Toht choice. Voting patterns don't come into it, as far as I can tell, since the merc is working on their own.

 

[Iceforge]

Unvote: Jimmy

Well, at least there's still life in him.

Will, I am inclined to agree with your logic. I hate to vote for either of these two as they are both vocal and seemingly trying to help the town here, but if there's a 50% chance someone is a bad guy then i guess that's as good as it'll get. Let me just get something understood here first. Was Ch3tan jailed on the first night, or the second night?

Neither!

Tohtori on night 1
Myself on night 2.

I was under the impression initially that there had been a failed murder attempt during night 2, which made me belive someone was out to get me to make Ch3tan look guilty!
But Ch3tan was never put into a jailcell.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Since no one has spoken up to say they are the sherrif, I'm tending to agree with Iceforge. RandomBastard hasn't proved his innocence by becoming deputy, but the odds look better for a Ch3t/Toht choice. Voting patterns don't come into it, as far as I can tell, since the merc is working on their own.

But you're forgetting that if me or Ch3t are bad, we could as easily be the bandit and that's the reason for only one nightkill on night one.

Voting patterns always matter.

And i should also remind people that we still do have two people out there killing people, so unless people think both me and Ch3tan are bad, impossible from night one by the way, then you shouldn't put all your suspicion eggs in this basket.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Iceforge, Ch3tan was removed from "killing field" though o night one as he was confined by the debuty.

 

[Iceforge]

About the Tohtori/Ch3tan being high chance of being a merc... not so much in my eyes.

I fail to see how any of this makes Ch3tan more likely to be a scum than anybody else? While the reason I had to assume him innocent was wrong, that doesn't make it into a reason for beliving him to be guilty, it just makes my reason flawed. I now doubt him again for my reasons given yesterday, not due to this nights actions; I really don't see how the chance of him being involved is really much greater than anybody elses, except for the reasons given by Old.Tohtori for why Ch3tan might have picked ECA as a target.

Also, who says both killing parties was able to do any bad deeds during the first night? Perhaps this murderer taking the scalp was busy sharpening his axe or whatever primitive indian weapon he used for the foul deed.

I personally suspect Ch3tan, but while I do that and might soon vote him once I cleared my head a little to be certain about my actions, I don't want people to jump on him for the wrong reasons

 

[Iceforge]

And people who go at me for misunderstanding things; I never said Ch3tan was in jail! I said I jailed myself!

Please, is a bit wild how many keep saying that Tohtori and Ch3tan was both in jail!

 

[Iceforge]

Iceforge, Ch3tan was removed from "killing field" though o night one as he was confined by the debuty.

Oh my god! Damn! Okay, soon I deserve to be lynched simply by missing stuff.... I am screwing up so much.. I didn't see Random say that and keept thinking people had misunderstood me... move along people, just a lunatic shouting in my posts at the moment I guess

 

[Will]

I wasn't sure about the bandit/merc thing, but would a merc leave a message about "poor Golena" in Gohan's hand?

 

[old.Tohtori]

Also, who says both killing parties was able to do any bad deeds during the first night? Perhaps this murderer taking the scalp was busy sharpening his axe or whatever primitive indian weapon he used for the foul deed.

Interesting point really. I heard some long time ago about a serial killer in another town that wouldn't kill each night, but did kill alot. Had the town in right panic.

(OOC: Just wondering if the "twist" in mercenary means some other form of action too(can't really say that IC i any sensile way ))

 

[old.Tohtori]

I wasn't sure about the bandit/merc thing, but would a merc leave a message about "poor Golena" in Gohan's hand?

Also a good point. I'm quite sure the killer of first night was a bandit and it was a revenge of sorts. I can't see any reason for the mercenary to be sad about the local hussy.

 

[RandomBastard]

Whilst I am innocent I did not give that information to save myself, but for the good of the village.

 

[RandomBastard]

The only way to prove my innocent is regrettably to hang me.

 

[Olgaline]

Obs*
An Important message:

Let it be known, that The Sheriff cannot deputize the same player more than once.

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Vote count:

Voting will: Random
Voting Tohtori: Will

Not yet Voting: The rest of you

 

[old.Tohtori]

The only way to prove my innocent is regrettably to hang me.

The problem there is, so is Iceforge, and me, and Ch3tan...basically all.

 

[Jimmy]

aye we need to have a way of finding out who is the bad guys and who are innocent

 

[Iceforge]

Alright, Ch3tan, redesided and you will be deputized tonight! Then you can confirm my role tomorrow! Don't know when you will be informed about it through

 

[RandomBastard]

first part of the night phase if mine is anything to go by

 

[Levin]

Iceforge has a bloody good point. I don't know if it was a clever tactic to strengthen his claim as sheriff, or by luck.. but by not deputising anyone yesterday he CAN claim sheriff if nobody comes forward now and say they were deputised. A false sheriff would probably get himself killed by doing that, since the real sheriff would have most likely deputized someone. Very clever indeed Iceforge!

As for deputizing, i think you do that during the day, Iceforge. (OOC: Look back at the roles info page) I don't think you should do it to prove your innocence though, as I think you've already done that with the tactic above. Or did i miss something?

 

[Iceforge]

Iceforge has a bloody good point. I don't know if it was a clever tactic to strengthen his claim as sheriff, or by luck.. but by not deputising anyone yesterday he CAN claim sheriff if nobody comes forward now and say they were deputised. A false sheriff would probably get himself killed by doing that, since the real sheriff would have most likely deputized someone. Very clever indeed Iceforge!

As for deputizing, i think you do that during the day, Iceforge. (OOC: Look back at the roles info page) I don't think you should do it to prove your innocence though, as I think you've already done that with the tactic above. Or did i miss something?

I mean, I know I have to pick during the day, but while I pick during the day, I am not sure people will find the deputy star at their home before they return home at nighttime to go to bed. (OOC: When Olgaline will send a PM to the player about it)

 

[Ch3tan]

Well I have no badge yet.

I am very concerned with tohts attempts to make me look like a merc. It seems everyone including toht himself only has option 1) I am a merc or 2) toht is a merc.

You all forget option 3) the merc targetted etiher myself or toht on night one.

Toht, in my eyes you look guilty as hell just for trying to shift guilt on to me.

I am willing to believe for now that Ice is the sherrif (assuming I get my badge) and assuming I survive the night to tell you all about it. This would mean random is innocent too. You will all have to take my word that I am innocent. Hell I have talked enough that any lies or contradictions should be apparent by now.

That leaves, Jimmy, Calo, Down -The three quiet ones. Don't know where they stand. Mod should kill.

Will, Levin and Uara -They post, but in reality say very little. Hard to catch out a lie when you give little away.

Toht - Verbal dioreahha

 

[Olgaline]

Mod should not and will not kill nor prod anyone:
All players have been online within roughly 24hours
and posted within roughly 24 hours.

 

[Ch3tan]

Chill, it wasn't a serious request or it would have been in bold

 

[RandomBastard]

I am willing to believe for now that Ice is the sherrif (assuming I get my badge) and assuming I survive the night to tell you all about it. This would mean random is innocent too.

It means nothing of the sort.

(OCC: Olgaline states in the rules that anyone except a declared protown role, ie. watcher, tracker can be a deputy. This would include bandits.)

 

[Ch3tan]

True, I had overlooked that. although your admission of that fact speaks more for your innocence than any protests you have made so far.

 

[Levin]

So what happens if Ch3tan is a bandit or merc and gets deputized? He can kill someone AND jail someone else? What a power trip!

Anyways, I'm pretty sure one of Ch3t or Tohtori is a bad guy by now so i'm going to follow Will's example and try to get a bandwagon going!

Vote: Tohtori

 

[Downanael]

Anyways, I'm pretty sure one of Ch3t or Tohtori is a bad guy by now so i'm going to follow Will's example and try to get a bandwagon going!

I'm going with Ch3tan,he really seems to want to get one of us killed. Vote:Ch3tan

 

[old.Tohtori]

I am very concerned with tohts attempts to make me look like a merc. It seems everyone including toht himself only has option 1) I am a merc or 2) toht is a merc.

You all forget option 3) the merc targetted etiher myself or toht on night one.

Toht, in my eyes you look guilty as hell just for trying to shift guilt on to me.

I'm not trying to shift anything towards you, if i did, i wouldn't do it so openly and i would certainy vote for you. But if we both are guilty as heck options, then i'm ofcourse telling why they should hang you instead of me. Basica human instinct to survive.

I don't think you're guilty, even if trying to get Iceforge killed with a passion, and then turning 180 after getting accused is weird.

Nor do i think iceforge is lying, but what i do however think is...

Anyways, I'm pretty sure one of Ch3t or Tohtori is a bad guy by now so i'm going to follow Will's example and try to get a bandwagon going!

...that that is quite enough. Not listening to any reason and being way too gung-ho about everything, just hopping on any badnwagon to get the ball rolling.

Vote: Levin

You've been acting strange since day one.