why do infils need a nerf?

[Carlos Bananos]

Re: Re: Another shipload of whine...

Originally posted by froler-mid
sounds like balance too me...(?) ;d

yup, 1 fight with a 50% chance, 29 minutes of /release.


what was that about savage balance n'stuff?

 

[Aybabtu]

Re: imo

Originally posted by Rg.Miath
imo la was a good counter vs a thrust inf. In the old days my 2h'd axe sb, couldent compete with most of the thrust infils by default. Without the "realm abilitys" being introduced yet, fights consisted of

PA-->CD chain evaded-->DF'd--> go make cup of tea --> dead

But i kinda accepted that i couldent take the likes of brommix or ninjastyles guessing i was better suited to the casters.

the access too 2 weapons for a str/con debuff + poison + 2.5 spec points + 9 sec stun gave even the most unskillfull inf a default advantage. There was and even now still no limit to the inf's target range tank or caster the infil could have a good chance of taking them.

and even now wittor didnt even bother Pa'ing my RR3 2h'd troll hammer sav fotm, just melee'd me to death after the DF, I was buffed but missing sum.

The infil needs a fix as does the savage

As a Sb you shouldn try to take an infil with a 2H weapon, and thats it.

Wittor doesn't have PA since she's specced as a Mercfiltrator, only way to beat you is by meleing.......RR3 2H Troll savage vs RR6 fully buffed infil, i'd put that in the favour of the infil.

 

[Rg.Roller]

Ye Aybabtu, but even at RR3 my savage was chewing up all classes at higher RR....except the infil, you got to ask yourself why?

 

[envenom]

no point in discussing dragonfang with ppl like Remi because he'll never admit it is overpowered until the tables get turned and sbs have dragonfang instead of infils.

but he'll sure whine like a bitch when sbs are overpowered such a cunt

 

[witte-]

Re: imo

Originally posted by Rg.Miath

and even now wittor didnt even bother Pa'ing my RR3 2h'd troll hammer sav fotm, just melee'd me to death after the DF, I was buffed but missing sum.

The infil needs a fix as does the savage

yus i remember that was in odin's and if i remember it good u forgot that thrust resist thing ;dd

 

[Whisperess]

Re: Re: imo

Originally posted by Aybabtu
As a Sb you shouldn try to take an infil with a 2H weapon, and thats it.

but it's teh special ability we have that the other assassins don't - and we can't use it against other assassins. givh more whiiiine!


Oh and FAO azshara:

okay, thrust then - seeing as the only specline with thrust possibilities are savages hand-to-hand - givh quad-hitting SB's! didn't think so, now givh crush

 

[Aybabtu]

Re: Re: Re: imo

Originally posted by Whisperess
but it's teh special ability we have that the other assassins don't - and we can't use it against other assassins. givh more whiiiine!

You also have more Hp's as a norse

 

[Rg.Roller]

Re: Re: imo

Originally posted by witte-
yus i remember that was in odin's and if i remember it good u forgot that thrust resist thing ;dd

Bleh, prolly although stuns remove the self buffs i believe. Was a good fight too...

Next time wittor nxt time :>

 

[Whisperess]

Re: Re: Re: Re: imo

Originally posted by Aybabtu
You also have more Hp's as a norse

50 more hp 4 teh win!

thought you of anyone should know that who's got more hp comes down to level of moarcane on the buffbot


oh, and what about kobold SB's, hmm ?

 

[Aybabtu]

Originally posted by Rg.Miath
Ye Aybabtu, but even at RR3 my savage was chewing up all classes at higher RR....except the infil, you got to ask yourself why?

I really don't know why a 2H savage Pwnz every class, with higher RR, at RR3.

 

[Rg.Roller]

Giv back 1hit no destealth ability, by far and away the most fun daoc could produce for me or ever will. Too much stealth zerg now, remember people complaining that there was too many L50 sb's in midgard............12 was the total number. Bit different now

 

[Aybabtu]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: imo

Originally posted by Whisperess
50 more hp 4 teh win!

thought you of anyone should know that who's got more hp comes down to level of moarcane on the buffbot


oh, and what about kobold SB's, hmm ?

w00t, my bb is only lvl 43 (MoA1 tho) .....

 

[Aybabtu]

Originally posted by Rg.Miath
Giv back 1hit no destealth ability, by far and away the most fun daoc could produce for me or ever will. Too much stealth zerg now, remember people complaining that there was too many L50 sb's in midgard............12 was the total number. Bit different now

Back then there was like 3-5 infils at 50

Damn i miss those times

 

[azshara]

Re: Re: Re: imo

Originally posted by Whisperess
Oh and FAO azshara:

okay, thrust then - seeing as the only specline with thrust possibilities are savages hand-to-hand - givh quad-hitting SB's! didn't think so, now givh crush

heard summit about making sword str/dex.

 

[azshara]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: imo

Originally posted by Aybabtu
w00t, my bb is only lvl 43 (MoA1 tho) .....

i dont got a bot t.t

 

[Whisperess]

Re: Re: Re: Re: imo

Originally posted by azshara
heard summit about making sword str/dex.

Which would help kobold sword-specced SB's, but be a blow against Norse SB's and all Troll sword-users.

No thanks.

 

[Aybabtu]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: imo

Originally posted by azshara
i dont got a bot t.t

But you do run buffed ehh?

 

[froler-mid]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: imo

Originally posted by Whisperess
Which would help kobold sword-specced SB's, but be a blow against Norse SB's and all Troll sword-users.

No thanks.

same as a briton thruster~. a free single line respec would fix it.


u should get thrust imo, and feel the gimped dmg ;d

 

[Warriorgimp]

Originally posted by witte-
we go slash then ^^

by all means go slash if thats so fucking great why the hell are all inf thrust ???????
maybe i type it for u DRAGONFANG
o well the nerf bat will hit u of that i am sure then we see who will whine

 

[Aybabtu]

Originally posted by Warriorgimp
by all means go slash if thats so fucking great why the hell are all inf thrust ???????
maybe i type it for u DRAGONFANG
o well the nerf bat will hit u of that i am sure then we see who will whine

Yes Dragon Fang is the reason to spec thrust, the dmg suck the styles suck but it has ONE good style at lvl 50.

 

[Warriorgimp]

if u all spec slash then atleast every one can hit back at u as it is now i hit one time poff df if no purge up i am dead for sure i dont even have time to hit ip after stun is gone so hell yes i rader have u as slash then atleast i can hit back and use ip with out haveing purge up

ps:sorry for misspelling dyslektik

 

[jox]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: imo

Originally posted by Whisperess
Which would help kobold sword-specced SB's, but be a blow against Norse SB's and all Troll sword-users.

No thanks.

Yus, as a norse with +15 in strength I would be fucked for life

 

[azshara]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: imo

Originally posted by jox
Yus, as a norse with +15 in strength I would be fucked for life

u still get 340+ dex buffed prolly ;d

 

[witte-]

Originally posted by Aybabtu
Yes Dragon Fang is the reason to spec thrust, the dmg suck the styles suck but it has ONE good style at lvl 50.

no 2 good styles don't forget pierce

 

[Aybabtu]

Originally posted by witte-
no 2 good styles don't forget pierce

Pierce
Thrust - available at spec level 29
Opening: Behind target
High bonus to chance to hit target.
Medium penalty to defense.
Fatigue used: Medium
Bonus damage: High
Special: Bleeding


Does damage to a target over a period of time.
Damage per tick (every 4 seconds): 6
Damage type: Body
Duration: 35 seconds

dats nice t00!

tho i rarely gets behind the ones im fighting

 

[knoll]

i just love it when inf's threaten "then we respec slash and u dont want that"

if slash is that ubah why are 99.9% thrust simple thrust is better then slash cause of debuff poison and DF.

and i do same dmg as a thrust inf.

 

[Aybabtu]

Originally posted by knoll
i just love it when inf's threaten "then we respec slash and u dont want that"

if slash is that ubah why are 99.9% thrust simple thrust is better then slash cause of debuff poison and DF.

and i do same dmg as a thrust inf.

but you do that dmg while being affected by debuff.... shows how shitty dmg thrust is compared to slash

 

[grimster]

Originally posted by Aybabtu
but you do that dmg while being affected by debuff.... shows how shitty dmg thrust is compared to slash

And we have 2 str relics?

 

[Aybabtu]

Originally posted by grimster
And we have 2 str relics?

thats only 10%....

best debuff drops my WS 200+ - i'd figure it do atleast 400+ on SB's?....

 

[grimster]

Originally posted by Aybabtu
thats only 10%....

best debuff drops my WS 200+ - i'd figure it do atleast 400+ on SB's?....

You should know..as you infs knows best how to spec and play us SB's.