Why albion Allways sucks in RvR?

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Marc

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Red HATred said:
why, cause your guild holds the GM's from GOA?

or some of them..

if that would be the case... then i would have to feel sorry for the company..

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Red HATred said:
god damn, you really do lack int...
there should not be such a thing as an rvr guild and an pve guild ... don't you see.. all ppl do ALL ffs..what you do is split up the realm...
you split it up in the *cough* elite RVR (sorry, narrows that to Emain) guild and the ignorant PVE guilds..
Wierd to say so, even your action in game contradict your thing, because what guils was roaming TOA for all artifacts.. and all ml's in the first week....

that must have been a verry serious PVE GUILD WOULDn't it

:clap:

and the asshole from barrows... hehe, i just love that one... that was the intention...

i even got a nice mail from GOA once stating that i should be more carefully indeed.

so to the ppl that i met after that i tried to explain what the difference was between main chat.. pm's etc..; most didn't understand that even. Those were the days we didn't have a roleplay filter in the game too..

Just when i think you cant possibly make any more retarded posts you come out with this peach.
 

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Marc said:
Just when i think you cant possibly make any more retarded posts you come out with this peach.


retarded ?

me pointing out that your elitistic RVR-PVE shit is a reason why our community isn't top?

me pointing out that your guild , if it is, was the first to get the ml's done.; the first to get their ppl suited up .. artifacts head to toe...

that all this is PVE, not rvr..; so what are you doing on our side of CS??

so , all i did was show you that you are the reason why the community doesn't functiuon properly..
you split the realm up in PVE and RVR guilds.. (theoretically) ..
this even makes some ppl feel UNWELCOME in rvr because they don't belong to that type of guild..; THINK
 

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Red HATred said:
retarded ?

me pointing out that your elitistic RVR-PVE shit is a reason why our community isn't top?

me pointing out that your guild , if it is, was the first to get the ml's done.; the first to get their ppl suited up .. artifacts head to toe...

that all this is PVE, not rvr..; so what are you doing on our side of CS??

so , all i did was show you that you are the reason why the community doesn't functiuon properly..
you split the realm up in PVE and RVR guilds.. (theoretically) ..
this even makes some ppl feel UNWELCOME in rvr because they don't belong to that type of guild..; THINK

All you are doing here is showing your complete and utter ignorance. I think 99% of the top 20 guilds in albion had a member on the first ML10 raid so you are talking out of your arse as usual. Secondly, my guild got their artifacts at their leisure. If im correct, i think Pin has only just recently got his last artifact for his sorc, having put his friends needs before his own.

And you, how dare you comment on why communities dont work. YOU are a prime example of why they dont work. A bully with a big mouth. I suppose what you lack in genitals you make up for with that mouth of yours.
 

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Red HATred said:
btw, last edit...

hehe,
some ppl even join our guild to see the Main attraction in action ;-)

Is that on the last thursday of every month when u put on a dress, head down to the local working mens club and get everyone to call u Sally?
 

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Red HATred said:
YOU think that getting the relic is the job, it ain't . It is getting it AND KEEPING IT DEFENDED...
But hey, that would take toooooo much of your zerging time , wouldn't it.. you could be in for a period of inactivety...that would mean less emain.... oooooo that would be bad, wouldn't it..

Yea sure we can summon a zerg @ 5 in the morning to deffend the relic's vs 300 mids :m00:
 

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Marc said:
All you are doing here is showing your complete and utter ignorance. I think 99% of the top 20 guilds in albion had a member on the first ML10 raid so you are talking out of your arse as usual. Secondly, my guild got their artifacts at their leisure. If im correct, i think Pin has only just recently got his last artifact for his sorc, having put his friends needs before his own.

And you, how dare you comment on why communities dont work. YOU are a prime example of why they dont work. A bully with a big mouth. I suppose what you lack in genitals you make up for with that mouth of yours.

ooooo, you need to start calling me a bully...
defend your cause, yes...
just get in in that lill head of yours mate...
you create CLASSES , PVE classes n RVR classes...
you exclude ppl from participating in ALL because they are not HArd-core emain hunters....
you just don't wanne give in that the only thing your guild is interested is is:

RR10.. nothing more ..nothing less..; Spirit??....if you would mention it to your members they would say: "spell list of that class"


this is what goes around in a GoL members head :)

game concept???????
hmmm wot is that.
Wot does that mean..
oooo
yes, emain..
there, hippies, mieppies..
oooo
15k rps, but i died... release.. but i'll be back...

Gol members are like slapping dummies... which The enemy realms must appreciate...
you slap em to the floor.. they get up ..; slap em again.. get up...
endless story..
. rr10 ding..
damn, i have no more goals...wot have i been doing here for the last months?
hmmm

look , marc

let's finish this thread in style.

you and your guild do this for me

you guys organize a nice, tactically ingenius (that is wot GOL is about isn't it) plan .
Get Our ppl ONE power relic and ONE str relic...
Figure out a way...
Get that for starters..

then the next RVR specialists challenge...
Look what you would have to do to keep the relics in our possetion for ... one month real life time..

if your guilds, rvr specialists, can achieve that...

i will personally throw in the towel..and most important part... i would even ask our guild to help you out.. give orders we will follow them.




then we can start talking about who was wright and who was wrong.
don't give me the shite about it beeing impossible of serv things.. that can be solved.
Get Albion their relics mate.


and for Iron beeing a twat an asshole....

you don't know the grumpy old man ;-)
 

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nakkiel said:
Is that on the last thursday of every month when u put on a dress, head down to the local working mens club and get everyone to call u Sally?

:clap:
 

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Duivel said:
Yea sure we can summon a zerg @ 5 in the morning to deffend the relic's vs 300 mids :m00:

zeg duivelke ;-)

those alarm clock raids... they are a pain.; and they are the only way our enemies seem able to get it done BUT..

doesn't that prove one thing...

That hibbies, middies seem to have a very solid community..
beeing there for that type of event..
Organized... At that time of the day even...
they seem to be WILLING to go for the gold..
Would albs be willing to get up at 5 to do the same?
 

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I agree that there havent been many Relic Raids, but GoL have mm driven most of the ones that have been. My problem is why don't people like your guild or some others, organise a few RR's. TBH, i see 150 Albs in emain, 9 Rams really isnt a chore......

Red if u wanna pick a RvR guild, Gol isn't the right one. The guild prolly spend more time in PvE than RvR, have loads of players, an RvR guilds have 20 members, tops. Myself and the otehrs, have helped albs in PvE, getting arts and in RvR.

Now, if we wanna help get DF, we go on Keep raids in Odins and Emain, where there is a chance of a sniff of Our main attraction the action. Not Pennines, where we have no Relics to defend.

Pick another guild to pick on.
 

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Red HATred said:
zeg duivelke ;-)

those alarm clock raids... they are a pain.; and they are the only way our enemies seem able to get it done BUT..

doesn't that prove one thing...

That hibbies, middies seem to have a very solid community..
beeing there for that type of event..
Organized... At that time of the day even...
they seem to be WILLING to go for the gold..
Would albs be willing to get up at 5 to do the same?

yea, but u said we didnt deffend the relic's.. but we did it with all oure power to deffend those str relic's, at every alert pming every big alliance, intercepting grps, getting keeps back, and more. Summoning an 400+ alb zerg at relic's b4 the enemy even is there dont go w/o them knowing wats going on.

If we got relic's and we can deffend em we will do it with all oure power.

and about the thing that we r an pure rvr guild.. defenly false @ prime times 50% is pveing and other 50% is having fun rvring.. unless we need to deffend relic's and such then u will see all rvring..
 

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And tbh.. how do u feel if u claim a keep, get doors to high lvl log on the next day and found out that ppl raided ure keep early in the morning for df? Eventualy u will stop caring for the keeps when u dont got anny thing to deffend with those keeps.
 

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i would like to thank you for your words of wisdom and your deep insight on the inner structures and aims of GoL. you have made this an entertaining read and i can assure you, all your suggestions and wishes will be adressed in the near future.

should you have any more points you would like to talk about do not hesitate to pm any member of GoL. after all, everyone of us carries a deep and true love for you at the bottom of his/her heart.

in the meantime please do spread your words deep in the halls of the stonehedge barrows and be sure, you will not be forgotten.

with the best wishes
yours sincerly
 

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Gregorian said:
i would like to thank you for your words of wisdom and your deep insight on the inner structures and aims of GoL. you have made this an entertaining read and i can assure you, all your suggestions and wishes will be adressed in the near future.

should you have any more points you would like to talk about do not hesitate to pm any member of GoL. after all, everyone of us carries a deep and true love for you at the bottom of his/her heart.

in the meantime please do spread your words deep in the halls of the stonehedge barrows and be sure, you will not be forgotten.

with the best wishes
yours sincerly

:worthy:
 

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and we r a multi-cultural Guild, with Swedes, Dutch, English, American, Taiwanese ( :D ), Swiss, Belgians, .ru's, Spanish, Finish, Danish, Rah We rok.
 

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Red HATred said:
yeah.. as i do.; and always will do.. my way.

Blaming your guild.????
narrow minded kid. I just stay out of rvr..; although i like it ; cause of those emain-zergers-narrow-minded stupidity. But i can't stay out forever because there are SOME guild that have got the picture of how things could be for the albion part of the community..
they organize nice events.. they work on nice alliance raids.. they work on the spirit of this game..

and what has GoL done for this realm??

i'll tell you. a couple of talented organizer in a couple of guild put their heads together and deceide to go for a relic...
GoL hasn't done shit...
Ok, some of the leading ppl were from your guild and mostly there will be a GoL disciple in there.

If you still would claim that GoL did all ...or does a lot for albion???
well read this part then...
the Relic raid is organized...
the relic raid is taking place..
the relic "sometimes" is retrieved...

the first ppl to dissapear from the scene are GoL, heading back to zerg main to continue to do what they can do, erode the MMG AMG road.

INSTEAD of sticking in our fronteer and friggin defending the stuff cause we know that all will be lost in the next hours.. You don't even bother considdering these option..because GoL is uber and doesn't listen to anybody on the server... you are the kings, aren't you...

YOU think that getting the relic is the job, it ain't . It is getting it AND KEEPING IT DEFENDED...
But hey, that would take toooooo much of your zerging time , wouldn't it.. you could be in for a period of inactivety...that would mean less emain.... oooooo that would be bad, wouldn't it..

so instead of thinking that you did something.. make sure you do it wright..; ok ;-)

I have one thing to add to this interestingly complimentary debate and that is this:

You are saying it is GoL's fault that albion lose relics every time we get them? Yeah, that seems to be your point. You have said in other places that GoL think that their 20 people online are the game; so if we have 20 people, if all move to the relic keep - what is that going to do against 400 mids? Not even a dent. The reason albions can't keep relics is because we are disorganised as a realm and you cannot blame individual guilds for this. It's because everyone is too fucking up themselves with rules and shit that people can't cope with a huge alliance encompassing all the guilds - this is what is required for relic defending. Simply that.

That was a rather long point, I admit.
 

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Clipse said:
and we r a multi-cultural Guild, with Swedes, Dutch, English, American, Taiwanese ( :D ), Swiss, Belgians, .ru's, Spanish, Finish, Danish, Rah We rok.
U had some greeks too bud from time to time :D /rock

just to say smthing about it all. I've spoken with some 40+ yo peeps that play this game and i must say they arent that attracted to rvr (or at least they die fast coz of lack of reflexes.. age..) but i never expected that anyone who could be my father , well if he was 15 when i was born ;p, to speak like that. Imo he has a point from time to time u just get bored of his spam.

Albs in rvr.. hm we talked about that in the previous 12 pages of this thread didnt we? Lack of utility etc... Imo only thing i need in my grp to make it competitive is a good sorc (prolly more like excellent-alert-quick sorc) and a clever therg. Other than that its easy.

Now give this nailahs robe im lookin for!
 

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lemme just /bump this thread cuz tbh it realy needs some attention here ppl! Lots more to be said, come on do not hesitate to make a post! :clap:
 

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Red HATred said:
zeg duivelke ;-)

those alarm clock raids... they are a pain.; and they are the only way our enemies seem able to get it done BUT..

doesn't that prove one thing...

That hibbies, middies seem to have a very solid community..
beeing there for that type of event..
Organized... At that time of the day even...
they seem to be WILLING to go for the gold..
Would albs be willing to get up at 5 to do the same?


How on earth could u possibly know if hibs/mids have a very solid community ?
And getting up at 5am to play a game ? I'll pass tbh
Some ppl got a life to live , I suggest u do the same
 

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snoepie said:
How on earth could u possibly know if hibs/mids have a very solid community ?
And getting up at 5am to play a game ? I'll pass tbh
Some ppl got a life to live , I suggest u do the same

i don't know, but gettting that number off ppl on line at the same time either requires a VERRY good society... or VERRY good leadership, because as you say:"you would pass". So would a lot of other Albs.
Some albs even call it pointless to take keeps etc...
so the game here seems to be pointless for most of them (albs) so they reduce it to the emain battles.

Treaza said somthing about : "what is the use .. af getting it ..when it is gone the next day."

All i can add to that is, create more diversity in one realm , split all forces up over 100 different non-communicating alliances.. that way we will NEVER get the remaining ppl to a spot for defence.

I have been on line at those time periods, and most of the times... talking from 7-10 o'clock you have an average Excalibur population of 600/800 ppl. split over three realms , that would be an average of 200/250 ppl a realm.
Isn't there any form of army between those ppl?


all i notice is that all remarks made until now are only remarks made from ppl that refuse to cooperate, refuse to acknowledge that it would require a lill bit more attention to get things running nice and smooth.
They minority is happy with their zone wars.... they don't care for the rest..

well.. i do hope NF will bring some improvement in this. AS i heard from a couple of guildies that tested the US version of NF, it even seems that Albion holds relic there and they fight with pride...

maybee that will wake some of those ....

Gregorian:
Running a kindergarten ain't easy..
but do lill bit more then just try to entertain your kids...
Educate them a bit..
;-)
 

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well there aren't much benefits in getting keeps that is for sure. Sometimes I think they might be better of if we can introduce some settlers in this game. npc who go from the castle to get wood and ore etc and that you can upgrade the number of them.

In any case I get a lot of keeps but that's just I like it and it's a bit of a honour thing to me to keep your frontier nice and neat.
 

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Red HATred said:
i don't know, but gettting that number off ppl on line at the same time either requires a VERRY good society... or VERRY good leadership, because as you say:"you would pass". So would a lot of other Albs.
Some albs even call it pointless to take keeps etc...
so the game here seems to be pointless for most of them (albs) so they reduce it to the emain battles.

Treaza said somthing about : "what is the use .. af getting it ..when it is gone the next day."

All i can add to that is, create more diversity in one realm , split all forces up over 100 different non-communicating alliances.. that way we will NEVER get the remaining ppl to a spot for defence.

I have been on line at those time periods, and most of the times... talking from 7-10 o'clock you have an average Excalibur population of 600/800 ppl. split over three realms , that would be an average of 200/250 ppl a realm.
Isn't there any form of army between those ppl?


all i notice is that all remarks made until now are only remarks made from ppl that refuse to cooperate, refuse to acknowledge that it would require a lill bit more attention to get things running nice and smooth.
They minority is happy with their zone wars.... they don't care for the rest..

well.. i do hope NF will bring some improvement in this. AS i heard from a couple of guildies that tested the US version of NF, it even seems that Albion holds relic there and they fight with pride...

maybee that will wake some of those ....

Gregorian:
Running a kindergarten ain't easy..
but do lill bit more then just try to entertain your kids...
Educate them a bit..
;-)

the last time we had strength relic a couple of months ago, where mids stayed up after the RR all night and eventually took it back in the morning, i think you will find that a large number of GoL stayed up all night defending. Where you there? ofc u wernt. U really really need to shut this mouth of yours, every post u make u end up making an even bigger prick of yourself. I can only imagine your guild are pretty embarrased by you.

Oh and for the record, how many Relic Raids have you organised?

p.s will u get it into your thick skull that im not even a member of GoL
 

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Red HATred said:
yeah.. as i do.; and always will do.. my way.

Blaming your guild.????
narrow minded kid. I just stay out of rvr..; although i like it ; cause of those emain-zergers-narrow-minded stupidity. But i can't stay out forever because there are SOME guild that have got the picture of how things could be for the albion part of the community..
they organize nice events.. they work on nice alliance raids.. they work on the spirit of this game..

and what has GoL done for this realm??

i'll tell you. a couple of talented organizer in a couple of guild put their heads together and deceide to go for a relic...
GoL hasn't done shit...
Ok, some of the leading ppl were from your guild and mostly there will be a GoL disciple in there.

If you still would claim that GoL did all ...or does a lot for albion???
well read this part then...
the Relic raid is organized...
the relic raid is taking place..
the relic "sometimes" is retrieved...

the first ppl to dissapear from the scene are GoL, heading back to zerg main to continue to do what they can do, erode the MMG AMG road.

INSTEAD of sticking in our fronteer and friggin defending the stuff cause we know that all will be lost in the next hours.. You don't even bother considdering these option..because GoL is uber and doesn't listen to anybody on the server... you are the kings, aren't you...

YOU think that getting the relic is the job, it ain't . It is getting it AND KEEPING IT DEFENDED...
But hey, that would take toooooo much of your zerging time , wouldn't it.. you could be in for a period of inactivety...that would mean less emain.... oooooo that would be bad, wouldn't it..

so instead of thinking that you did something.. make sure you do it wright..; ok ;-)
Hi mr i have no clue few questions for you,

1) did you like me spend 18 hours solid repairing excals doors after the 1st mid rr allowing me 45 mins sleep before work
2) did/have you ever organised a rr? Have you spent 20+ hours pming gms to get a large enough force together for it succeed 100%?
3) Have you ever even left the pve areas in 2 years ive seen you on one mebe two albion keep retakes so do you really stand in a position to be able preach?
4) Have you or your guild set up and run an albion gm forums to co-ordinate rrs and defence when we have relics like gol has done (note thnx to nobrains for hosting :wub: )
5) Have you tried or taken the effort to form a major alliance (1st one was set up by gol)
6) Has your guild claimed a keep in albion in the past 2 years?
7) Have you or a member of your guild ever helped fund repairs and upgrades to albion relic keeps


Now i know the answer to all these questions is no so i suggest you crawl back under what ever rock you came from and stay there, you dont have the 1st clue about rvr or rring yet you mount that high horse of yours and tell others how to do things you've a) never done your self and most importantly b) havent got the slightest fucking clue about in the 1st place


[To summarise for those who hate long posts ironfart = clueless nobrained cock]
 

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Red HATred said:
i don't know, but gettting that number off ppl on line at the same time either requires a VERRY good society... or VERRY good leadership, because as you say:"you would pass". So would a lot of other Albs.
Some albs even call it pointless to take keeps etc...
so the game here seems to be pointless for most of them (albs) so they reduce it to the emain battles.

Treaza said somthing about : "what is the use .. af getting it ..when it is gone the next day."

All i can add to that is, create more diversity in one realm , split all forces up over 100 different non-communicating alliances.. that way we will NEVER get the remaining ppl to a spot for defence.

I have been on line at those time periods, and most of the times... talking from 7-10 o'clock you have an average Excalibur population of 600/800 ppl. split over three realms , that would be an average of 200/250 ppl a realm.
Isn't there any form of army between those ppl?


all i notice is that all remarks made until now are only remarks made from ppl that refuse to cooperate, refuse to acknowledge that it would require a lill bit more attention to get things running nice and smooth.

Important thing to point out here when mids rrr 7 am gmt ish there is a grand total of 60-70 people on allbion (taken from results of /who all on last 3/4 mid alarm raids) not all of em have lvl 50s most of em are very low rr. Now even gathering everyone online (like at the last early morning mid raid) you cant stop 150+ mids in formed balanced groups with alot of rr5+.

Now the reason you dont know this is because you have never stayed up all night to defend or been online when mids have raided, so once again i suggest you wake the fuck up get a clue before you preach.
 
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