Why albion Allways sucks in RvR?

[Red HATred]

what era do you date from?

in dutch: Oude koeien uit de gracht halen?

ironic?
RTFM

harcore pvp players??? Nothing is hard-core on excal...just as the guilds you see popping ...... they go "hard-core" in emain for a couple of weeks, then vanish into thinn air. Never to be heard off again. The only thing remaining is the Gm with two ppl, look at NO ;-) They only fill the D-base.

you want to go hard-core pvp, piss off to cammlan server. Excalibur is a three realm server where the struggle is based upon the ONE-AND-ONLY-THING : the struggle for power and relics. This struggle has been flavoured with Plots from totally unexperienced roleplaying Gm's that can only create solid zerg plots.

and pitty that i can't see zoyster's remark here...... seems to have vanished from page...all i know he's one of the head-ppl of those poaching-concept-rapers. Just don't EVER say i'm talking crap about this... you haven't got a clue what this is about in here.... you whored your way to your RR not even caring for the goals of the game ;-). You are nothing but a lost Fragger...
As is said, wrong univers... wrong game-concept. i advice you to install the Hack-and-slash version of CS, that is the place you should be..
It is totally useless for ppl like myselfe, who have a different perspective on the game to even try and break that pattern (the one you and ur gang installed in emain)..... that stupid zerg pattern you installed.
WHAT IS YOUR PURPOSE IN EMAIN???? getting DF? NO
The easy way out of the levelling in this game?? YES

There are a couple of guilds out there, i'm talking about guilds like TM, HG etc.. that are willing to add to the concept. TM, known for the initiative to (aprill and co) keep OUR fronteer in OUR hands.. HG running at their sides most of the times.
I love those guilds... (i do realize that they are roaming in emain also, they have no other alternative since you aren't breaking the pattern of drawing ppl into that zerg-Rp-whoring shite. And yes, KOTL members roam emain too. Just for the same reasons as all others do, they have no other option. what can 20/30/40 ppl do vs the emain addicts? Hop in there to go get some rp's themselves..call it social obligation. /sigh

Every patch, every alteration, every add-on... we (gossipers on FH) have to ENDURE the moaning from you peeps of how things have become worse in some way... But still all remain here. New fronteers is inc.... the whining of how ppl will miss emain... the old way of whoring. Go to Cammlan ...pls..; go kill all you see there.. stay there..that is your server.


On Excalibur the concept should be :

TRY AND CREATE UNTIY IN ONE REALM (even in this fictional thing here, it seems just as hard as in RL to get ppl to work together on a concept...not created by me or other players, but the one given by game-given-basics)
Game wise i think that it is impossible to enlist all ppl into one guild also.. but an alliance has been developped to out-maneuvre this. But no, we have a couple off alliances.. based upon (get this!) Real life Nationalities and prolly some other stupid reasons... prolly the zerging mentality.

DEFEND YOUR FRONTEER at all cost.

If that would have become a stable situation (never would be stable, our fronteer is only deserted because all are to be found in emain, it is the only thing they know.) you can start thinking to continue to the next step: Enlarging your territories with a purpose. Keeping in mind that your own realm fronteer is the base off all. But noooo, you need easy terrain , open flat fields so we see enemies inc from clip range.. never have to considder any other tactic then zerg charge.. outnumber.. hope they get assisted, kill or be killed, move on or release. Who cares for the concept , relic-concept that is.. None?
Ah yes, true, let's blame Goa for their servers. Never good enough to support 80 ppl in one zone...... /sigh...
This may be true. But avoid these problems .. do a mid and hib relic raid at the same time or something, to split forces over two fronteers...but respect the game concept. The only action that should occure here should be DEFENDING albion for starters. Then Fight for power.

Don't tell me there aren't enough ppl on line to proceed in those actions... Why don't you split ppl over 90 different guilds ... 10 different alts spread over 10's of useless guilds... oweee, i met 4 nice ppl.. let's create a guild.. let's make it even more impossible to create an army to fight for our realm.. excommunicated from all cause they haven't got any alliance.. no communication ... no information about what is happening in our realm....

THINK


there is a saying in dutch....

Veeg eerst voor je eigen deur eer je voor een ander zijn deur gaat vegen.

Translate it yourselfe if you want to know what it means.

so conclusion:

stop moaning about the game... play it as it is.. i gave you the basic idea of what the PVE-PVP combination should be about. You don't appreciate my vieuw... i know.. i don't care. I won't hold me back from shouting it.

AND ALBS DO NOT SUCK IN RVR. Because that is the topic:
If they would only do a little bit more then just rp-whore.. no one would have to moan...

cheers

 

[Night]

Amen!

 

[Z^^]

harcore pvp players??? Nothing is hard-core on excal...just as the guilds you see popping ...... they go "hard-core" in emain for a couple of weeks, then vanish into thinn air. Never to be heard off again. The only thing remaining is the Gm with two ppl, look at NO ;-) They only fill the D-base.

No was a renamed 8 rvr players from the brethen probably been playing as long as you on the server.

you want to go hard-core pvp, piss off to cammlan server. Excalibur is a three realm server where the struggle is based upon the ONE-AND-ONLY-THING : the struggle for power and relics. This struggle has been flavoured with Plots from totally unexperienced roleplaying Gm's that can only create solid zerg plots.

why would you tell ous where to go lol, and no who cares about relic raid rly when its been reduced to 7am raids....

and pitty that i can't see zoyster's remark here...... seems to have vanished from page...all i know he's one of the head-ppl of those poaching-concept-rapers. Just don't EVER say i'm talking crap about this... you haven't got a clue what this is about in here.... you whored your way to your RR not even caring for the goals of the game ;-). You are nothing but a lost Fragger...
As is said, wrong univers... wrong game-concept. i advice you to install the Hack-and-slash version of CS, that is the place you should be..
It is totally useless for ppl like myselfe, who have a different perspective on the game to even try and break that pattern (the one you and ur gang installed in emain)..... that stupid zerg pattern you installed.
WHAT IS YOUR PURPOSE IN EMAIN???? getting DF? NO
The easy way out of the levelling in this game?? YES

purpose of emain was a zone of rvr for mythic.. who cares about df ppl who go emain wanna rvr, easy way of leveling??!!? what?

There are a couple of guilds out there, i'm talking about guilds like TM, HG etc.. that are willing to add to the concept. TM, known for the initiative to (aprill and co) keep OUR fronteer in OUR hands.. HG running at their sides most of the times.
I love those guilds... (i do realize that they are roaming in emain also, they have no other alternative since you aren't breaking the pattern of drawing ppl into that zerg-Rp-whoring shite. And yes, KOTL members roam emain too. Just for the same reasons as all others do, they have no other option. what can 20/30/40 ppl do vs the emain addicts? Hop in there to go get some rp's themselves..call it social obligation. /sigh

Aye its sad you cant get more ppl to come defend the realm with posts like yours lol....
And rp whoring in emain is just more fun why would you want to take away ppls fun to come to an empty zone and bash some doors for a hour and then log?

Every patch, every alteration, every add-on... we (gossipers on FH) have to ENDURE the moaning from you peeps of how things have become worse in some way... But still all remain here. New fronteers is inc.... the whining of how ppl will miss emain... the old way of whoring. Go to Cammlan ...pls..; go kill all you see there.. stay there..that is your server.

omg can i see a cryer in this lines or what, the posts mostly regarding 8vs8 fights and balance is angeled all the time because thats how most ppl find the fun in emain, and if you dont like to read patchnote wajns then just find another roleplay thread.
And you think New frontiers gonna bring fun to you?... You might find that even roleplay carebear keep takers in us hate newfrontiers as much as old gank guilds.

On Excalibur the concept should be :

TRY AND CREATE UNTIY IN ONE REALM (even in this fictional thing here, it seems just as hard as in RL to get ppl to work together on a concept...not created by me or other players, but the one given by game-given-basics)
Game wise i think that it is impossible to enlist all ppl into one guild also.. but an alliance has been developped to out-maneuvre this. But no, we have a couple off alliances.. based upon (get this!) Real life Nationalities and prolly some other stupid reasons... prolly the zerging mentality.

zerging is boring because it totaly reduce the idea of skill when it goes down to 1fps and thus make the game increadably boring to play...

DEFEND YOUR FRONTEER at all cost.

If that would have become a stable situation (never would be stable, our fronteer is only deserted because all are to be found in emain, it is the only thing they know.) you can start thinking to continue to the next step: Enlarging your territories with a purpose. Keeping in mind that your own realm fronteer is the base off all. But noooo, you need easy terrain , open flat fields so we see enemies inc from clip range.. never have to considder any other tactic then zerg charge.. outnumber.. hope they get assisted, kill or be killed, move on or release. Who cares for the concept , relic-concept that is.. None?
Ah yes, true, let's blame Goa for their servers. Never good enough to support 80 ppl in one zone...... /sigh...

you need easy terrain , open flat fields so we see enemies inc from clip range.. if you play albion/sorc you have to understand that thise zones are whats best play ground for the sorc...

This may be true. But avoid these problems .. do a mid and hib relic raid at the same time or something, to split forces over two fronteers...but respect the game concept. The only action that should occure here should be DEFENDING albion for starters. Then Fight for power.

Don't tell me there aren't enough ppl on line to proceed in those actions... Why don't you split ppl over 90 different guilds ... 10 different alts spread over 10's of useless guilds... oweee, i met 4 nice ppl.. let's create a guild.. let's make it even more impossible to create an army to fight for our realm.. excommunicated from all cause they haven't got any alliance.. no communication ... no information about what is happening in our realm....

Maybe 1 or 2 big roleplaying alliances should be better then the hoards of 4 guilds per alliance as it is like now, but then again from a rvr players pov, i wouldn't wanna rvr in the same grp with some ppl from a certain amouts of guild who can't prefom as good then the "emain whores"

THINK


there is a saying in dutch....

Veeg eerst voor je eigen deur eer je voor een ander zijn deur gaat vegen.

no tnx

Translate it yourselfe if you want to know what it means.

so conclusion:

stop moaning about the game... play it as it is.. i gave you the basic idea of what the PVE-PVP combination should be about. You don't appreciate my vieuw... i know.. i don't care. I won't hold me back from shouting it.

AND ALBS DO NOT SUCK IN RVR. Because that is the topic:
If they would only do a little bit more then just rp-whore.. no one would have to moan...

cheers

why on earth do you think that pvp is all about the relics, - because you read it in the manual that came with the game?
Don't you understand that RVR is the aslo emain rvr because that is fun to most players...

 

[regz]

blablabla

stop telling ppl that pay the same subs as u how to play already.

(ps. gol has most likely done alot more for alb/excal -since beta- then u, so stop blaming us for haveing some fun in emain)

 

[Red HATred]

Lly

you need easy terrain , open flat fields so we see enemies inc from clip range.. if you play albion/sorc you have to understand that thise zones are whats best play ground for the sorc...
why on earth do you think that pvp is all about the relics, - because you read it in the manual that came with the game?
Don't you understand that RVR is the aslo emain rvr because that is fun to mo
st players...

Zii,

i'll try to convince you why our fronteer is better

my most favorite spot to roam as a Sorc is Hadrians wall.
Solo, dream sphere shaped.. using scenery to my advantage...
that was the way i whiped a middie group ...alone.
Now that is the real rush... limited in force.. you have to think every step you take.. then you can say :"I prevented them from causing havoc in our fronteer" " i butchered them" . Maybee it is cause i gave my sorc a little bit more Character DEPTH that i love my fronteer more ;-)

Don't forget that having a lot of scenery in your Line of sight will have to lower your travelling speed if you don't want to be caught in a Trap. (tactics ). So to be able to WIN vs the INSTA cultures from other realms we need extra tools... Scenery. Travelling at full speed lowers your reaction time and range of the initiation of an encounter . (i think)

example.. you know the road leading from HMG to MMG in HW, Wright....
it doesn't happen verry often that hibs/mids stick to the road there, most will run to the northern Zonewall from MMG to HMG and back... (that way you can see that you have a former emain group entering our fronteer..... the gate-to-gate-syndrome struck again ... but for those that do stick to the roads.. you can set up some awesome traps.... hindering all movement in our fronteer...

and tbh, the best RVR players (tacticians) were to be found in Hadrians wall...
Chilly and the gang, Adrianicus,that sorc from The bretren, Galoec, Nibasac, Primey, Luapo... damn, those ppl rocked in what they did...tactically.... clever.. REALLY thought about all. And as i recall they took pride in their job, cause they were The-HW-gang.

but hey..; Regz:

as said in one of the previous posts ...

quote :
i pay my account, i play the way i want...

NO, your mummy pays your account and you have no clue what you are doing
Fun? no doubt.. Move to Cammlan pls

 

[regz]

but hey..; Regz:

as said in one of the previous posts ...

quote :
i pay my account, i play the way i want...

NO, your mummy pays your account and you have no clue what you are doing
Fun? no doubt.. Move to Cammlan pls

no, I pay for my account, as i do for my house, all bills & everything else. please stop assuming things about ppl u dont even know.

 

[Red HATred]

no, I pay for my account, as i do for my house, all bills & everything else. please stop assuming things about ppl u dont even know.

ragz

the quote wasn't directed to you personal mate....

talking about the whole sjebamm
can''t discuss every case individually...

 

[regz]

ragz

the quote wasn't directed to you personal mate....

talking about the whole sjebamm
can''t discuss every case individually...

which is ofcourse why u mentioned my name, and in the same sentence told to me FO to camlann.

and its nice u cant discuss everything individually, but generalising whole guilds & alliances for having fun in emain isnt doing albion any good i think

 

[Red HATred]

which is ofcourse why u mentioned my name, and in the same sentence told to me FO to camlann.

and its nice u cant discuss everything individually, but generalising whole guilds & alliances for having fun in emain isnt doing albion any good i think

you have fun in emain ...


ok, do...
but make it worth something to the PPL that keep moaning on The forum.
Do you think they have fun..; the number of moans exceeds the number of positive threads on GoL's and co's activeties..


pretty selfish attitude to state that a minority can say to the majority... fuck off we do what we want ;-)

 

[[NO]Subedai]

cry more noob..aka ironheart

people pay their subs and thus its their choice what 2 do. if people enjoy emain killing then good for them , its a game afterall. and the tactical side of keep taking and stuff is all but eliminated with alarm clock raids or spys or whatever.

 

[Red HATred]

cry more noob..aka ironheart

people pay their subs and thus its their choice what 2 do. if people enjoy emain killing then good for them , its a game afterall. and the tactical side of keep taking and stuff is all but eliminated with alarm clock raids or spys or whatever.

you have a point there, most good initiatives are destroyed by punks, kids abusing the game... as always, the good folks have to pay for the stupidity of the real losers (beeing cheaters, spies etc.. ) just ppl Bored of the game..; nothing else to do , so let's bore all ppl on the server. Well if all goes well, we'll have the same type off witch-hunt they had in the USA... and omg will i be pleased to see some ppl's accounts banned for cheating..

then... subedai, i hope things will change. If those factors have been elliminated, will all become more "spirited"?

 

[Marc]

Solo, dream sphere shaped.. using scenery to my advantage...
that was the way i whiped a middie group ...alone.

rofl

FO back to Barrows

 

[Red HATred]

rofl

FO back to Barrows

don't comment things you have no knowledge about.. you'll never know how it feels to solo one character ;-)

 

[Lethul]

don't comment things you have no knowledge about.. you'll never know how it feels to solo one character ;-)

rofl, FO to Gaheris or something

 

[Clipse]

I blame those idiotic beta players (now rr 10 ice wizards) who took the pride in destroying the concept of the game, then proceeding till they have what they got. And now they respec back, realizing they stink. Also, to realize that they will have to alter the playing style. So , back to the spirit of the game.

don't comment things you have no knowledge about..

.

 

[Marc]

To be honest Ironheart, i dont even know why you post here with your holier than thou attitude after some of the stunts you have pulled in the past. Usetting younger casual players who knew no better with your obscene language and attitude in game to anyone who dared venture in a one mile radius of the fallens room in Barrows. Yes its only a game, but next time you feel the need to throw profanities at someone in game, remember that that person could be a minor and easily offended. You are a **** of the highest order. Only encyptor comes close to you. Rather than trying to build bridges with the albion community you come on here and spout off about how RvR guilds suck etc etc etc blah blah blah thus enfuriating the community even more.

 

[Comos]

don't comment things you have no knowledge about..

well that's a good one! Do YOU have any clue yourself? What I'm gonne say has been said before, but you should really stop telling ppl what to do. Everyone goes where he wants to go and does what he wants to do. Imo go back to your barrows and QQ to the wights, see if they care.
And what are you on about wizards?

blablabla wizards respeccing back cuz they realise they suck

hilarious

 

[ShivaW]

and tbh, the best RVR players (tacticians) were to be found in Hadrians wall...
Chilly and the gang, Adrianicus,that sorc from The bretren, Galoec, Nibasac, Primey, Luapo... damn, those ppl rocked in what they did...tactically.... clever.. REALLY thought about all. And as i recall they took pride in their job, cause they were The-HW-gang.

hahahaha, so rvr for you is only in hadrians? good point, you have long life to play in one empty place 99% time

stop blaming my guild, you can do what you like in rvr, and we can do what we like in rvr, go your way!

 

[Red HATred]

i'm an ass

look here, punk...

about all the shit you wrote just proves my point... that you and loads of other ppl still have NO CLUE what this is about. And profanity... you have no idea.. you may have the skill of a diplomatical twat... manipulating ppl with smooth lines... even screwing them in unclear language so you have your info you want...

but i ain't like that...
you haven't got one fucking clue what this is all about here...
And if you would be sitting at a desk at ou provider here i would say, you do know what you are talking about stupid fagg.

 

[Red HATred]

what i am on about.. follow threads then give comments on what the reply was made for..; don't fuck around with useless remarks, cosmos..

and what i say here is just ....... an enlargement from a post that someone else started a while back..
as you can see, (but don't realize) the fooks that stick to your way off handling things out there, are causing unhappy gamers... dissapointed ppl. But why should YOU care???

and that is to all of you

bunch of Selfish twats... never listen to remarks from other ppl, only defend your fucking oppinion and try to maintain the stupidity you cause..
NEVER listening because you don't have to listen in here, don't you...
No one can touch you in here , so just proceed fucking up all in here...
This is a fookin TEAM PLAy game and you friggin asses just make it a game that is beeing played in ONE friggin ZONE.

YOU enjoye it.. YOUR guild enjoyes it...
THE REAL GAMERS ARE FED UP WITH YOU cause there is nothing that they can do about it. Most haven't got the gutz to reply on this forum cause of you asses tearing down everybody sticking up for the wright idea..

YOU guys are so fucking stupid and can't even read properly. This is a PVE-PVP server with ONE purpose and i REPEAT: ONE PURPOSE

A WAR BETWEEN THREE REALMS , A STRUGGLE FOR POWER AND RELICS... but that concept may be to boring for you..; or just to hard to get... WHAT is it??
Hey, are you just to stupid to realize that your 20 on-line ppl aren't the game ???

when will you realize that RVR-guild, PVE-guild are total BULLSHIT.
ALL guilds Do ALL, and all you do with your selection procedure is eliminate half of the game to the serious gamers out here. YOU FUCK IT UP with your stupid narrow minded i-wanne-have-my-fun-here-and-i-don't-give-a-shit about-what-i-bought-here.
Bunch of selfish zone whores....

 

[Marc]

look here, punk...

about all the shit you wrote just proves my point... that you and loads of other ppl still have NO CLUE what this is about. And profanity... you have no idea.. you may have the skill of a diplomatical twat... manipulating ppl with smooth lines... even screwing them in unclear language so you have your info you want...

but i ain't like that...
you haven't got one fucking clue what this is all about here...
And if you would be sitting at a desk at ou provider here i would say, you do know what you are talking about stupid fagg.

I dont need to manipulate anyone. Everyone already knows how much of a wanker you are.

 

[Red HATred]

yeah.. as i do.; and always will do.. my way.

Blaming your guild.????
narrow minded kid. I just stay out of rvr..; although i like it ; cause of those emain-zergers-narrow-minded stupidity. But i can't stay out forever because there are SOME guild that have got the picture of how things could be for the albion part of the community..
they organize nice events.. they work on nice alliance raids.. they work on the spirit of this game..

and what has GoL done for this realm??

i'll tell you. a couple of talented organizer in a couple of guild put their heads together and deceide to go for a relic...
GoL hasn't done shit...
Ok, some of the leading ppl were from your guild and mostly there will be a GoL disciple in there.

If you still would claim that GoL did all ...or does a lot for albion???
well read this part then...
the Relic raid is organized...
the relic raid is taking place..
the relic "sometimes" is retrieved...

the first ppl to dissapear from the scene are GoL, heading back to zerg main to continue to do what they can do, erode the MMG AMG road.

INSTEAD of sticking in our fronteer and friggin defending the stuff cause we know that all will be lost in the next hours.. You don't even bother considdering these option..because GoL is uber and doesn't listen to anybody on the server... you are the kings, aren't you...

YOU think that getting the relic is the job, it ain't . It is getting it AND KEEPING IT DEFENDED...
But hey, that would take toooooo much of your zerging time , wouldn't it.. you could be in for a period of inactivety...that would mean less emain.... oooooo that would be bad, wouldn't it..

so instead of thinking that you did something.. make sure you do it wright..; ok ;-)

 

[Red HATred]

I dont need to manipulate anyone. Everyone already knows how much of a wanker you are.

just piss of marc, i haven't even got a clue, who or what type of bits-bytes you are in there..

yeah, and ppl know i'm a wanker..; you are wright...
i don't want the whole world to think i'm good... would make me god ;-)

btw, i'm enjoying this...are you?

 

[Marc]

No, you just stay out of RvR cos everyone knows how much of an asshole u are and wont invite you to a group anyway.

 

[Red HATred]

No, you just stay out of RvR cos everyone knows how much of an asshole u are and wont invite you to a group anyway.

ROFL

/wave bye
i know, you are everyone, aren't you ;-)


btw, still sitting on that wall leeching all that passes? or have you finally learned how to play your character?

come on markske..; defend your cause.. your nobility here...

 

[Marc]

ROFL

/wave bye
i know, you are everyone, aren't you ;-)


btw, still sitting on that wall leeching all that passes? or have you finally learned how to play your character?

Ok, i have refrained from saying anything about your language problems, as I know english isnt you native tongue, but I really dont know what you are trying to imply in that remark. Mention to anyone in alb, the name "ironheart" and their reply will be "yeah, hes that asshole from Barrows" not "yeah hes that demi god of RvR". All you have done so far in this thread is slag off albions RvR guilds and in particular GoL. Every single person with at least an iq of 12 that plays this game, knows that GoL have done more for this realm than you and your guild (whoever that is) will ever do for it. All you are dong is alienating (sp) even more (if thats possible) the albion community, so why not just cut your losses and pack it in now.

p.s. i play my char better than you could even dream of playing any of yours

 

[Red HATred]

care.
And what are you on about wizards?

hilarious

comos, no i was not on about wizard...

i was on about my sorc..
my wizard can't handle three+ characters solo.... even buffed.. unless;;; if it were three grey cons.. maybee

 

[Marc]

And for this assholes guild, there was no slur intended on you, whoever you are. I realise that the comments made by him arent necessarily shared by those of the guild. In fact, i know they arent as you wouldnt be as stupid to make those remarks about guilds like GoL

 

[Red HATred]

Ok, i have refrained from saying anything about your language problems, as I know english isnt you native tongue, but I really dont know what you are trying to imply in that remark. Mention to anyone in alb, the name "ironheart" and their reply will be "yeah, hes that asshole from Barrows" not "yeah hes that demi god of RvR". All you have done so far in this thread is slag off albions RvR guilds and in particular GoL. Every single person with at least an iq of 12 that plays this game, knows that GoL have done more for this realm than you and your guild (whoever that is) will ever do for it. All you are dong is alienating (sp) even more (if thats possible) the albion community, so why not just cut your losses and pack it in now.

p.s. i play my char better than you could even dream of playing any of yours

god damn, you really do lack int...
there should not be such a thing as an rvr guild and an pve guild ... don't you see.. all ppl do ALL ffs..what you do is split up the realm...
you split it up in the *cough* elite RVR (sorry, narrows that to Emain) guild and the ignorant PVE guilds..
Wierd to say so, even your action in game contradict your thing, because what guils was roaming TOA for all artifacts.. and all ml's in the first week....

that must have been a verry serious PVE GUILD WOULDn't it



and the asshole from barrows... hehe, i just love that one... that was the intention...

i even got a nice mail from GOA once stating that i should be more carefully indeed.

so to the ppl that i met after that i tried to explain what the difference was between main chat.. pm's etc..; most didn't understand that even. Those were the days we didn't have a roleplay filter in the game too..

 

[Red HATred]

And for this assholes guild, there was no slur intended on you, whoever you are. I realise that the comments made by him arent necessarily shared by those of the guild. In fact, i know they arent as you wouldnt be as stupid to make those remarks about guilds like GoL

why, cause your guild holds the GM's from GOA?

or some of them..

if that would be the case... then i would have to feel sorry for the company..


and my guild...well... that is a guild with a lot of nice ppl... kinda got to know a couple of them..
Some do have a bit more insight in all.. the face behind the bits and bytes...
Some agree with me, some disagree.. Some would love to see me kicked, other won't..; ain't that normal?

The way of the world markske..


btw, last edit...

hehe,
some ppl even join our guild to see the Main attraction in action ;-)