who would win in a fight? Bruce Lee v Mike Tyson?

[Azurus]

This is too stupid... Comparing a guy people probably know shit about(Have anyone here even seen a real fight with Bruce Lee?) with one of the best(if not the best) boxer that have ever existed! Tyson had it all, strenght, speed and technique. Just watch his fights during his prime time.

One thing is for sure, Lee would go down inn one hit with Tysons punches, and it would not be a problem for him landing. Cause Tyson was a fucking train, he would just ram into him beeing at a distance where even the "allmighty" Lee would not be able to dodge.

Some people watch too many movies.....

Agree entirely with this. People seem to look down on Tyson because of his problems with the law, but if you talk to anyone who knows anything about boxing they will acknowledge that he was one the greats. Ali has stated on many occasions that Tyson was a superior fighter than him. Tyson gets one hit on Lee and he goes down, he had a ridiculous amount of power and speed. There is really no argument in this one.

 

[Chosen]

Bruce Lee grew up around gangs and got into loads of street fights and loads of trouble. That's one of the reasons he got into martial arts.

Considering he put emphasis on going for the weak points (joints, eyes, balls) i think he could win, the dirty bastard.

So I ask my question, have you ever seen him in a real fight(Not movies)?

 

[BloodOmen]

rofl bring them in this thread and they would both die of shame!

The sheer levels of nerdism being displayed would make them shrivel like salted slugs at the notion that they have now been reduced to an arguement by interwebbers on par with 'what would win an emperial cruiser or the enterprise' complete with insults and textual fistycuffs.

They'd come in here and team up and kick all your arses; then go for a beer before Tyson had to return Lee to the cemetery.

Leave our nerdism alone woman men need nerdism to survive!

 

[tierk]

So I ask my question, have you ever seen him in a real fight(Not movies)?

Sorry but that just sounds like "Pictures or it never happened" kind of remark /question. You dont have to see something with your very own eyes to be able to make a comment about something.

 

[Vae]

Google Fight : Make this fight with googleFight mike tyson VS bruce lee

/thread

 

[Marc]

It makes me lol when people claim Lee would win because he knows "dirty tricks". Where the fuck do you think Tyson honed his fighting skills before he took up boxing?

He would eat Bruce Lee alive

 

[Wonk]

What's with all the "one hit and Lee goes down" bullshit? One kick in the balls, and Tyson goes down. It's as easy as that.

 

[soze]

It seems to come down to if there are rules Tyson wins if there are none Lee wins.

 

[Chosen]

Sorry but that just sounds like "Pictures or it never happened" kind of remark /question. You dont have to see something with your very own eyes to be able to make a comment about something.

It is relevant! How can people compare a guy that they have never seen in a real fight too another opponent that is one of the most viewed boxers inn the world?

People know jackshit about Lee on here, whatever they know is what they read on random pages they probably googled. It's like matching up a fantasy character against a real person!
Bruce Lee could probably fly, and shoot lightning out of his ass aswell!

 

[Chronictank]

It is relevant! How can people compare a guy that they have never seen in a real fight too another opponent that is one of the most viewed boxers inn the world?

So basically you are saying your opinion is no more valid than theirs
Or in your terms 'you know jack shit about Lee'

 

[Talivar]

Well i can say for sure Lee would never have been KO by Buster Douglas. That unstoppable BEAST of a TRAIN didnt seem so tough then did he. The problem here is some people seem to just not understand simple human biology. Tests havce been done to show Lees speed and we have witnessed Tysons speed and they not even close. So takeing into account Lee is more than likely to land first blows lets consider what he could do...
Maybe the obvious kick to the balls which insta disables Tyson?
Maybe the throat to make Tyson choke, i accept Tyson may guard his face and throat but this would leave rest of body wide open.
Maybe a kick to the kneecap if Tyson has planted his legs
Maybe the inch palm hit to Tysons chest ?
There are so many spots on the human body where if hit right you can kill or disable a person its unreal. The diff is Lee was trained to exploit that and Tyson wasnt. Why do you think special forces train using forms of MMA and not simple boxing?
This is like Saying Tyson would beat a Spartan Warrior or a shaolin monk in a fight lol

 

[Ch3tan]

This is too stupid... Comparing a guy people probably know shit about(Have anyone here even seen a real fight with Bruce Lee?) with one of the best(if not the best) boxer that have ever existed! Tyson had it all, strenght, speed and technique. Just watch his fights during his prime time.

One thing is for sure, Lee would go down inn one hit with Tysons punches, and it would not be a problem for him landing. Cause Tyson was a fucking train, he would just ram into him beeing at a distance where even the "allmighty" Lee would not be able to dodge.

Some people watch too many movies.....

So basically, you are a big hypocrite? You seem to think Lee is nothing but a film star and so are writing him off. Seems you know shit about him.

 

[Talivar]

Just look what happens to boxers who enter UFC or other MMA sports.

 

[tierk]

It is relevant! How can people compare a guy that they have never seen in a real fight too another opponent that is one of the most viewed boxers inn the world?

People know jackshit about Lee on here, whatever they know is what they read on random pages they probably googled. It's like matching up a fantasy character against a real person!
Bruce Lee could probably fly, and shoot lightning out of his ass aswell!

You cannot compare the two people, seen or not seen as they were specialists in two sports that are so different and also the way the question is framed you do not know if it is a boxing match, a street fight, martial arts contest.....

You would have the same difficulty even comparing two fighters in the same sport but from different era's - example Ali or Tyson. But to just say sorry you have not seen this guy fight, therefore, everything you say about him is wrong is just plain silly.

By that definition, it would not be possible to be able to comment on anything or anyone that you have not seen with your own eyes. If a thousand people have seen something and commented on it and read about it, surely it would be safe to assume that some of what is written must be true. Otherwise we can discount all history and historical figures /facts. I am pretty sure you have never seen Julius Caesar lead an army in battle.

 

[Chosen]

Well i can say for sure Lee would never have been KO by Buster Douglas. That unstoppable BEAST of a TRAIN didnt seem so tough then did he. The problem here is some people seem to just not understand simple human biology. Tests havce been done to show Lees speed and we have witnessed Tysons speed and they not even close. So takeing into account Lee is more than likely to land first blows lets consider what he could do...
Maybe the obvious kick to the balls which insta disables Tyson?
Maybe the throat to make Tyson choke, i accept Tyson may guard his face and throat but this would leave rest of body wide open.
Maybe a kick to the kneecap if Tyson has planted his legs
Maybe the inch palm hit to Tysons chest ?
There are so many spots on the human body where if hit right you can kill or disable a person its unreal. The diff is Lee was trained to exploit that and Tyson wasnt. Why do you think special forces train using forms of MMA and not simple boxing?
This is like Saying Tyson would beat a Spartan Warrior or a shaolin monk in a fight lol

I worked in a norwegian unit called Telemark Batallion, and the so called "Special forces forms of MMA" your talking about is mostly consisting off yes... boxing? Why? Because the hits is easy, strong, quick to do, and effective. Aswell as training with weapons and grappling, there is not many kicks except for a couple. And the reason is for that its very easy to loose the balance with all the equipment your wearing.

This is an example of a difference in body mass: YouTube - MMA VS Kung Fu - just ran inn and he was down... mike could probably do the same with Lee.


And too Chronictank, I know as much of Bruce Lee as you do... I've seen the documentaries, and movies. But never seen him in a REAL fight, so yes. I also know jackshit about how his fighting style would work for real. But as for personal experience I'd vouch for Mike, because of his body, his techincue and ofcourse of his ability to take hits!And yes Body Mass has ALOT to say in fighting, have anyone here actually fought a match before with someone that much greater in size and not seen the diffrence no matter how f***ing good your at your martialart?

 

[Chosen]

You cannot compare the two people, seen or not seen as they were specialists in two sports that are so different and also the way the question is framed you do not know if it is a boxing match, a street fight, martial arts contest.....

You would have the same difficulty even comparing two fighters in the same sport but from different era's - example Ali or Tyson. But to just say sorry you have not seen this guy fight, therefore, everything you say about him is wrong is just plain silly.

By that definition, it would not be possible to be able to comment on anything or anyone that you have not seen with your own eyes. If a thousand people have seen something and commented on it and read about it, surely it would be safe to assume that some of what is written must be true. Otherwise we can discount all history and historical figures /facts. I am pretty sure you have never seen Julius Caesar lead an army in battle.

If this was a thread of real specialists then yes, but this is a thread of old daoc internett warriors! And its a huge difference comparing this shit with stuff like the roman invasions etc Because there are lots of texts or marks that gives away what the romans(Or whatsoever did). But there have never been a real comparison about mike and lee inn anyway, or any proofs! Thats why Im not seeing Bruce Lee as a godly figure, that so many here do. Because stuff said about him might not even be true! I know it is true for Mike, cause Ive seen lots of his fights.

 

[Talivar]

Boxers have tried to enter UFC in the past, how has that fared? Thatsa geniune question because i honestly dont know except for Ray mercer who hasnt fared so well. I know James Toney fights soon and he is regarded as an american ATG.

 

[Vasconcelos]

If this is a thread of old daoc internett warriors!

You just made me cry

 

[megadave]

So I ask my question, have you ever seen him in a real fight(Not movies)?

No. I asked that question earlier in the thread.

I also voted Tyson.

 

[Chosen]

Ah well, we should probably send it too discovery, remember watching the programs were they matched up lions vs tigers etc. and different warriors(Can't remember the name). So we could see from a perspective of analyzises who would win

 

[Talivar]

Deadliest warrior season 3 !

 

[ECA]

Boxers have tried to enter UFC in the past, how has that fared? Thatsa geniune question because i honestly dont know except for Ray mercer who hasnt fared so well. I know James Toney fights soon and he is regarded as an american ATG.

None really. The money a top level boxer makes is > the money an MMA fighter makes.

Only old hasbeens trying to make some cash when they're past their sell by date so far.


Anyway people in this thread don't understand any important fighter attributes nor how to evaluate them so it's like talking to a catholic in the 16th century and trying to explain why the world isn't flat.


Mike Tyson wasn't just the bad guy from the NES game you know.

YouTube - MIKE TYSON'S INCREDIBLE DEFENCE !!- MUST SEE !!

 

[gohan]

tyson probly, i think they had a thing about this recently tho admitedly it was ali vs lee

but same princable, alot of bruce lee's fights were sped up to make him look alot faster and people forget that heavywieght boxed arent like slow thick bumbling halfwits..... mainly

i bet the speed of thier punchs isnt far differed from lee but the force would be alot more cos thier fucking massive

obviously most boxer's do only punch but we know mike is a **** and will probly be happy to bite and kick him in the balls wile throwing sand in his face and analy raping him into submission



FACT


partly

 

[gohan]

Google Fight : Make this fight with googleFight mike tyson VS bruce lee

/thread

Google Fight : Make this fight with googleFight porn VS bruce lee


ouch

 

[Chosen]

None really. The money a top level boxer makes is > the money an MMA fighter makes.

Only old hasbeens trying to make some cash when they're past their sell by date so far.


Anyway people in this thread don't understand any important fighter attributes nor how to evaluate them so it's like talking to a catholic in the 16th century and trying to explain why the world isn't flat.


Mike Tyson wasn't just the bad guy from the NES game you know.

YouTube - MIKE TYSON'S INCREDIBLE DEFENCE !!- MUST SEE !!

I get this chill feeling in my body, watching how Tyson dances around the hits, he was surely a fearfull man!

 

[BloodOmen]

Anyway I don't understand any important fighter attributes nor how to evaluate them so it's like talking to tools on freddyshouse and trying to explain why weight and size mean absolutely nothing. I'd also like to point out that i'm a wannabe ard man thus I lick boxers arses and claim to know everything about fighting... don't mess with me foo or i'll reply you to death.

Fixed that for you.

And on a side note no one is claiming tyson is shit and he can't fight, its quite evident that he can not only fight but do it extremely well. What people are trying to put forward however if it was a toss up between the two Lee can counter anything Tyson throws at him even a big fat punch that would turn him inside out because thats how hes trained all his life prior to dying nothing but defensive fighting. Its no use saying the best defence is a strong offence because thats been proven bullshit by shaolin monks and other martial arts masters around the world (those of which didn't get famous by making movies so you can't dispute their authenticity or experience)

 

[Chosen]

Fixed that for you.

And on a side note no one is claiming tyson is shit and he can't fight, its quite evident that he can not only fight but do it extremely well. What people are trying to put forward however if it was a toss up between the two Lee can counter anything Tyson throws at him even a big fat punch that would turn him inside out because thats how hes trained all his life prior to dying nothing but defensive fighting. Its no use saying the best defence is a strong offence because thats been proven bullshit by shaolin monks and other martial arts masters around the world (those of which didn't get famous by making movies so you can't dispute their authenticity or experience)

So you say that weight and mass means nothing? I so believe you are a experienced fighter.... Put up a figher against another, they both are equal in everything. Except the other one weights maybe 20-30pounds more, that weight would give him a great advantage and help him win the fight. First off, because his mass will give him more power behind his strikes, 2nd off he will be able to take more hits(Because the more you weight the more fat you got around your organs, and ofcourse muscles to tighten around, and even stronger bones, thats why weight and mass has alot to say inn a fight!).

I gave a argument eariler inn this thread, about how Tyson could win using his mass at an advantage. Charge innto a space where Lee would have no chance to avoid his hits, and wack the shit out of him.(Even gave a link of a clip on how it would work.)

 

[Talivar]

So chosen is it just Lee you think wouldnt beat tyson or any MMA style fighter of his weight? Say a Shaolin monk for example.

 

[Ch3tan]

So you say that weight and mass means nothing? I so believe you are a experienced fighter.... Put up a figher against another, they both are equal in everything. Except the other one weights maybe 20-30pounds more,

They aren't equal in everything, Lee was faster, and could fight with his entire body, using multiple styles of combat. Your whole argument really is based on nothingness. Also are you really still doubting what a good fighter Lee was? You seem to think that his documented history is all made up simply because his fights were not televised.

 

[ECA]

Fixed that for you.

And on a side note no one is claiming tyson is shit and he can't fight, its quite evident that he can not only fight but do it extremely well. What people are trying to put forward however if it was a toss up between the two Lee can counter anything Tyson throws at him even a big fat punch that would turn him inside out because thats how hes trained all his life prior to dying nothing but defensive fighting. Its no use saying the best defence is a strong offence because thats been proven bullshit by shaolin monks and other martial arts masters around the world (those of which didn't get famous by making movies so you can't dispute their authenticity or experience)

Sup captain Rum.