Whats happening to our server guys..

[Krystals]

do u get more stupid by the hour ?

Only when I come on Freddyhouse.

 

[Graveen]

Just one example - why the f*ck is this community so totally devoid of respect and even the most simple of discussions without "OMG you retard!!"?? Are you all f*ckin 8 years old or something???

i agree with this, lamas always said you're nQQb everytime you pwn them that's really funny because daoc is nothing than an huge opportunity game.. no matter you're as noob as me, you're always noob of somebdy, of some classes, of some RRs, of some zerg.

does all ppl really thing they are skilled ?

in fact, yes i've noskill and ? i'm playing a fuckin game, man, i CAN be as unskill as i want.

this is my choice - i do not need your "overskillance" ((c) Krystals - j'adore ce mot )

 

[enkor]

Camlaan was once a great idea, sadly it was the people it was created for that destroyed it - I lasted best part of a year on there, from launch, as a nice change from the grind on my main on Prydwen. Within that year i only managed to get ONE toon past 30, and that was on the fourth try after deleting and rerolling due to zero cash and zero con.

I left cos of all you childish minge-clogs who enjoy the grey ganking - and DON'T BOTHER saying it doesn't happen that much and theres only one or two people who do it - that's just bullshit and you know it is.

I gave it another two tries out in the time it's been up and running and both times - guess what?? I get insta-ganked over and over until im skint. Not always by the same person, but it happened in less than three days for the last try and that was only in December.

I leveled a vampiir to 40 with zero twinking and i died 3 times. explain how thats possible if the server is full of retarded greyganking 50s? whats the difference between me and you that makes that possible?

 

[Rediknight]

No idea - want to give it a go, seeing as you posed it? :|

Just because you're able to level a toon to 40, only dying three times doesn't make the point valid. Maybe you only played at 4am? maybe the population was lower? Maybe you use the word retarded without thinking about what it really means? Maybe you picked a class that is easier to level than me? Maybe you were just plain lucky.

Did you already have toons on Camlaan when you started on your vamp? I would imagine that would mean you had cash and friends over there already?

Whatever it is, my experience is my experience and i read through this and find im not the only one.

Now we've covered that doozy, lets stop and think about your reply - wasit constructive? no. Was it in the same vein as all the other clown-shoes posts which just enforce the point im trying to make? Yes.

All you've done is make me nod quietly and think, "Yep, 'nother camlaan player who thinks pointing out his success over others and making claims that hint towards accusing me of lying about the integrity and friendly acceptance of this server."

Personally i wouldn't even want to mix it up with you lot - keep your server and be as rude and un-sociable on it as you like - ill come see you all when it becomes a co-op or Roleplay server and laugh heartily at you all for being so cliquey...

 

[Nedo]

Just because you're able to level a toon to 40, only dying three times doesn't make the point valid. Maybe you only played at 4am? maybe the population was lower? Maybe you use the word retarded without thinking about what it really means? Maybe you picked a class that is easier to level than me? Maybe you were just plain lucky.

Or maybe, just maybe, he does not play Camlann as if it was a RvR server which most people that come there from RvR server do.

"Omg I went to RvR with my RR1 non toa'd char on english cluster and got pwned by RR11 players, its so lame!!! " Same thing...never posted on cluster boards by camlann players. And LOL what the responses would be if you said something like that on that board.

 

[enkor]

I already said, no twinking, meaning I started from level 1 without transfering anything and got to 40 without grouping or being PLed or whatever. Did it at primetime a month or so after catas release, ie when the population was about 3x what it is now. But of course its totally impossible to level on camlann and everyone is a greyganking retard.

Whats your point anyway? that the camlann players who post on this forum are elitist? ever looked at the pryd/excal forums? The only reason they aren't COMPLETELY filled with exactly the same thing is that those servers are slightly more conductive to casual players than camlann is, especially with its small population. I'm gonna agree with you (and lorfo) that camlann is an amazingly stupid server these days and will probably be shut down soonish - but that doesnt mean the ruleset or the population are at fault, every server has retards and if cluster had 200 pop at primetime no doubt people would whine like crazy about fgs camping bridges (which WOULD happen).

I don't play camlann much anymore and I certainly wouldnt advise rolling there at this point, its an exercise in futility. I also agree that the community is pretty retarded, but the majority of english players do not post on these forums, only a small subsection (due both the the openness of ingame communications and the increased emphasis on guilds) - less than post on rvr server forums, i would say, and a much tighter group, and its useless to make any judgements about the community being cliquey or unsociable based on these forums - ingame its just as open as any, but ofc the language differences are a problem in finding guilds etc.

However, leveling on camlann is a hunded times easier at this point than it has ever been, and that certainly shouldnt be a problem for ANYONE, not that i would, as said, advise it. The points XenX brings up, especially in his first post, extremely unworkable and based on the community wanting to work together and "be nice", something which, given the history of camlann and the fact that about 1/100th of the server reads this board, both stupid and laughably idealistic. The community can not be responsible for "improving" the server, its up to mythic - which they seem to have no intention of doing, even though there are clear ideas and workable suggestions around, thus bringing them up is pointless. Amildins post very clearly lays out the issues on hand here.

As for your preconceptions about camlann players - bullshit. Sorry, but in my experience camlann has exactly as many friendly players and retards as any server, it just shows more due to the structure of the server. Almost everyone who played camlann has now quit or moved to an rvr server anyway, and I'd imagine most of them are completely indistinguishable from the others there. In the end, the camlann community is as diverse as any other, and can not be expected to change the server - its not as if we all love each other but hate new players or something. You are acting exactly the same as every other player from rvr servers who tries camlann - getting killed and whining without understanding the idea or the reality of the server.

Xenx makes unworkable suggestions, and if he were to make similar ones on another servers boards he would get exactly the same response.

 

[Phoebee-v-]

Did you already have toons on Camlaan when you started on your vamp? I would imagine that would mean you had cash and friends over there already?

Omg as if enkor has friends :worthy:

 

[Kallahanden]

Just one example - why the f*ck is this community so totally devoid of respect and even the most simple of discussions without "OMG you retard!!"?? Are you all f*ckin 8 years old or something???

Even if you do disagree with someones point, at least try to muster the most miniscule bit of intelligence and post a constructive reply, instead of the mindless arse-biscuits you all seem to love so much.

Camlaan was once a great idea, sadly it was the people it was created for that destroyed it - I lasted best part of a year on there, from launch, as a nice change from the grind on my main on Prydwen. Within that year i only managed to get ONE toon past 30, and that was on the fourth try after deleting and rerolling due to zero cash and zero con.

I left cos of all you childish minge-clogs who enjoy the grey ganking - and DON'T BOTHER saying it doesn't happen that much and theres only one or two people who do it - that's just bullshit and you know it is.

I gave it another two tries out in the time it's been up and running and both times - guess what?? I get insta-ganked over and over until im skint. Not always by the same person, but it happened in less than three days for the last try and that was only in December.

For all of you slating crap out of XenX - i don't know him from adam, he might be a genuine a-grade pr!ck in RL - but at least he's TRYING to think of ways to get Camlaans pop up before it's shut down, while the rest of you are just wandering around moaning that theres too much whining and acting like a bunch of l33tist f*ckwhits...

Well, heres a suggestion, if you really do want to keep your server alive, stop being so f*cking negative and childish if i was you and start thinking about how you few are monopolising a system in a way that leaves new players with no option than to join a massive guild, or be insta-gibbed off of the server in days.

I might even go on again later and see how long i can run around after hitting 10th WITHOUT being done over.

To be honest, i give this server a year more, maximum, then it'll become a co-op or Roleplay server. Maybe you lot should save your whines till then, eh? :|

someone is takin this 'bit to serious ..

 

[Bahumat]

myself, Nedo, mvv, skold and many more have brought these types of discussions to the rvr guys on several occasion's, even if we show where they may be wrong on certain things it dont make a difference.

if you said to a nazi, "come on, is that jewish guy really that bad"? your not gonna change his mind set no matter how hard you try, the same applies with camlann and rvr players, they just dont get along and the rvr guys dont fully understand how camlann works.

in no way am i accusing rvr players of being nazi's, im simply using an example of how the camlann ruleset regardless of how many times discussed simply does not change the minds of the rvr players.

 

[Graveen]

btw leveling on camlann isn't hard at all.

either you get friends (just 2 or 3)
either you exp in desertic place (frontiers, SI, etc etc etc)

 

[Amildin]

Just one example - why the f*ck is this community so totally devoid of respect and even the most simple of discussions without "OMG you retard!!"?? Are you all f*ckin 8 years old or something???

Enkor mentioned the main points and im not going to go back into them again, dont have the time or the patience.

One he didnt mention though is the regular FH users give these pointless seemingly rude responses because we are bored of having the same discussion over and over again. The population issue certainly isnt a new one and by this stage we have had the discussion so much its tiresome to regurgitate the same points again and again. All these suggestions and more have been made in the past, controlled pvp has been attempted (hib loop comes to mind atm) and more. Yet of course none of this can work, as enkor said its up to Mythic to control drastic population changes not the community.

At this point, all Camlann can hope for imo is an expansion that seriously favours it or a dramatic individual addition that would make it stand out from other servers. Neither of these is very likely

There is, imo again, a higher % of childish style players on camlann now than there has ever been. A lot of the normal good players left a long time ago to discover cluster etc without getting a new source of good players only the retards have been left. But to say Camlann has always been this way is a complete joke tbh, such extreme generalisation just makes your point seem petty and unrealistic.

But anyway, now im just gonna start repeating stuff that ive posted a hundred times before this. Might write a book on camlann and just post link to it everytime this kinda subject is brought up

 

[XenX]

you can shoot me for being idealistic if you want but i was just putting forward the ways i thought we could help the community on camlann, yes as you said they are prolly unworkable but they were only ideas
if you log onto camlann late in an evening or very early morning.. there will prolly be me and maybe 5 or 6 others having a great time in goth fighting each other and standing about talking, that is what camlann imo should be
like, obviously when its really busy it cant be like this BUT, in a similar way to this (when its busy) say i attack someone and kill them and get the reward, 10 mins or so later my timer has ran out that person kills me.. as far as im concerned from then on that person is not a threat to me.. i wont attack them if i can help it and i wont try to farm them for cash, they can quite happily go about their day and not have to worry about me any more,
then theres another scenario, where i attack someone and kill them for reward, 2 mins later there timer has ran out and im off killing someone else, they kill me during the fight, i give it a bit of QQ about them leeching and thats that, then 2 mins later my timer has ran out and im off killing someone else again.. when WTF happens but Mr i leech for revenge is back, and prolly gets me AND the person im fighting both killed, theres just no reason for it, we DO NOT need to hate each other's guts just because we are on a pvp server, if we all try to avoid killing the person we just killed 2 mins ago things would go a lot smoother...

and for the LOVE OF GOD!! if you must leech during a fight, leech the reward, not the poor fool u killed 2 mins ago then the reward people always doin this to me its v annoying, OH OH and also.. if you are a group of 8 running around goth and u get attacked by someone or a few people, U CAN EXPECT me to add on one of you.. normally someone who isnt fighting like a healer or the semi-afk guy, if thats the only way im gonna get a rew of your damn gank group then thats what im gonna do.. but it doesnt mean that for the next 10 hours you should permanently chain me.. and i apply the same rules to myself, if i get leeched by a grey or something while im in a fight, if i ssurvive.. you die.. if i dont.. i normally wont chain you! unless you called me a noob or something

 

[stafrin]

zzz

 

[Amildin]

and for the LOVE OF GOD!! if you must leech during a fight, leech the reward, not the poor fool u killed 2 mins ago then the reward people always doin this to me its v annoying

They are just being smart tbh, killing the other guy first means his reward is shared between the two of you. Yet if he kills you then the reward guy he has to share the reward with you, and why should he?

U CAN EXPECT me to add on one of you.. normally someone who isnt fighting like a healer or the semi-afk guy, if thats the only way im gonna get a rew of your damn gank group then thats what im gonna do.. but it doesnt mean that for the next 10 hours you should permanently chain me..

Right so you complain about how bad leeching is, then you add on peoples fights and whine about being chained. But how do you get chained, you are a stealther, or do you unstealth and jump around in front of them and hope just to get a hug?

I cant understand you, are you an honourable fighter looking for nice 1v1s that doesnt care much for your /stats. Or are you an rp whore adding on grps because thats the only way you can get their rps? You certainly cannot be both

 

[MadsKaizer]

btw leveling on camlann isn't hard at all.

either you get friends (just 2 or 3)
either you exp in desertic place (frontiers, SI, etc etc etc)

you dont have to exp on camlann, there is 3 catacombs zones, so only make a level once in a while, and the rest can be done with mini quests, its so fucking fast and easy.

i leveled a reaver to 48 some time ago, almost only were in catacomb zones

 

[Yeppy Kinkster]

omg! fuck up with all your intelligent lectures! I want more "you retard n00bs" comments, atleast they make me giggle. Shame on you, Enkor and Ruzdo! That aint the Camlann way!

Its bullshit that you can't get pass level 36, I did it and I'm a complete retard. You carebears are runbbing my 3rd nipple the wrong way with all the whining now

 

[Krystals]

omg! fuck up with all your intelligent lectures! I want more "you retard n00bs" comments, atleast they make me giggle. Shame on you, Enkor and Ruzdo! That aint the Camlann way!

Its bullshit that you can't get pass level 36, I did it and I'm a complete retard. You carebears are runbbing my 3rd nipple the wrong way with all the whining now

Agree, I come here to have fun not for fuckin serious post.

You all sux

 

[Amildin]

Agree, I come here to have fun not for fuckin serious post.

You all sux

We wish you wouldnt come here at all

 

[Yeppy Kinkster]

We wish you wouldnt come here at all

lol

 

[XenX]

yes im a soloer looking for good 1v1
What i meant by the whole im gonna add to get ur rew's part of what i said before was that if a guild mentioning no names but you all know which one, are in goth, theres basically nobody but them and the few stragglers around, this is fine if said group is just passing through or going to ToA or checking who is in goth or something.. but if said guild group is in goth for several hours.. theres gonna be absolutly nobody to kill, and the few there are to kill are gonna be no-rew, and the even fewer that are rew, lets say 1 every hour, you attack them and are instantly killed by said group,, the only alternative you have to either logging or falling asleep, is to attack the full group, well im not gonna do this while they are all standing around doing nothing thats suicide but if said group gets attacked by 3 or 4 people, i might get a good 2 or 3 rew kills while they are all /assist train'ing on the non-rew's who attacked them.

im not gonna add on the 2 stealthers who just started 1v1'ing next to me.. THATS what i meant

 

[Amildin]

yes im a soloer looking for good 1v1
What i meant by the whole im gonna add to get ur rew's part of what i said before was that if a guild mentioning no names but you all know which one, are in goth, theres basically nobody but them and the few stragglers around, this is fine if said group is just passing through or going to ToA or checking who is in goth or something.. but if said guild group is in goth for several hours.. theres gonna be absolutly nobody to kill, and the few there are to kill are gonna be no-rew, and the even fewer that are rew, lets say 1 every hour, you attack them and are instantly killed by said group,, the only alternative you have to either logging or falling asleep, is to attack the full group, well im not gonna do this while they are all standing around doing nothing thats suicide but if said group gets attacked by 3 or 4 people, i might get a good 2 or 3 rew kills while they are all /assist train'ing on the non-rew's who attacked them.

im not gonna add on the 2 stealthers who just started 1v1'ing next to me.. THATS what i meant

Fantastic.

 

[MadsKaizer]

retards.

 

[enkor]

omg! fuck up with all your intelligent lectures! I want more "you retard n00bs" comments, atleast they make me giggle. Shame on you, Enkor and Ruzdo! That aint the Camlann way!

Its bullshit that you can't get pass level 36, I did it and I'm a complete retard. You carebears are runbbing my 3rd nipple the wrong way with all the whining now

i love you

 

[Kallahanden]

retards.

youyes

 

[Krystals]

We wish you wouldnt come here at all

Nice one. But it was so easy. I was sure than it would come from Latency or some retard like.

Btw as a worm, u should be happy I take the time to answer you.

You're all gays. And more.

 

[MadsKaizer]

Nice one. But it was so easy. I was sure than it would come from Latency or some retard like.

Btw as a worm, u should be happy I take the time to answer you.

You're all gays. And more.

couldnt have said it better

[23:16:23] <enkor> haha
[23:16:30] <enkor> krystals @ arguing skills

 

[Kallahanden]

Nice one. But it was so easy. I was sure than it would come from Latency or some retard like.

Btw as a worm, u should be happy I take the time to answer you.

You're all gays. And more.

i hope to god that post was a joke.. or you are seriously struck by frenchness

 

[MadsKaizer]

i hope to god that post was a joke.. or you are seriously struck by frenchness

he is.

 

[Amildin]

Nice one. But it was so easy. I was sure than it would come from Latency or some retard like.

Btw as a worm, u should be happy I take the time to answer you.

You're all gays. And more.

Ty for not calling me a retard

I was just keeping it simple, so as not to scare you with big words.

Show me a worm that can type imo!

Can there be gay worms?

 

[Ctuchik]

Ty for not calling me a retard

I was just keeping it simple, so as not to scare you with big words.

Show me a worm that can type imo!

Can there be gay worms?

they have sex with themself so in a way i suppose u could call the worms gays