What is doing AD in excalibur ? ( Albion ) discuss

[Tinyheals]

errr i wasent saying that alb was easyer to play i was just saying that its alot more fun getting into groups with the class you like rather than having to play a fotm one to get groups i play a thane btw

i agree.. thats the way it should be.
but if you field the wrong fullgroup, you are mobile rps.
Id love to see all classes be viable in a full group, but the chance getting into a very good group with a char that does the job worse than another is mythics problem.

 

[Tinyheals]

Ehh ?

So according to your rules, the only time im allowed to engage enemies is
when noone around except one ?

And they only time AD engage enemies is when there is precise 8 enemy players in a fg ?

if they are 2fg we normally run away
if they are 1person we normally let him be

we cant do anything when you add and leech on us, but to yell and tell you how much we dislike it.

what is your problem if we die? except you cant leech as much rps

 

[Tinyheals]

Or maybe just relax a little and not take themselves quite so seriously

the thrill in this game is the fair fights, not to get unwanted help from king arthur

 

[Tinyheals]

I was pointing out about ways to enhance alb groups, and if a group use BB's and regular resist rebuffs, it might aswell spec higher smite for longer duration cc and higher damage. Important, probaly not.

One of our clerics are 39rej 37enh 4smite
and the other one is 45rej 28enh 10smite
with that we get resistbuffs, and descent pbae interrupt. You donät want to specc smite higher cause of larger powerloss.

If AD can beat other fg's fine for them, but their setup, which i believe is PE setup, cant be performed by most alb groups, simply because peoples specs are not right, people do irl stuff so you cant play a fixed group, and quite a few is still on 56k modems....

Yes we have PE setup, tried both with a setup with 3 merc, and one with 3 clerics, but this works better.
Then people have to specc their chars right, there is no other solution if you want a perfect full group. and try to get one of each specc into the groups.
In midgard if youre specced wrong, you might be disbanded for it.

Its also a fact some of them comes from NP.

yes?

I have newer said they stink or i would leech from them, i have not mentioned their infils leeching at amg just like any other infils, but they come and play smart on me without any reason.

You did write that you will attack every enemy player that you see, that is what people react to.

 

[Antedeluvian]

cant solo eh?

Acording this guy, who owns an infil, what a surprise, scouts only can play 1 min each 30, the rest of the time scouts can't play.... or maybe he could teach us all how to play a ranged class who cant see hidden pple at range if not TSing, and how to play it solo non-adding in group fights.
C'mon guy, enlighten me how to solo whit a scout whit your rules.....

 

[Antedeluvian]

Yes we have PE setup, tried both with a setup with 3 merc, and one with 3 clerics, but this works better.
Then people have to specc their chars right, there is no other solution if you want a perfect full group. and try to get one of each specc into the groups.
In midgard if youre specced wrong, you might be disbanded for it.
QUOTE]

I suggest you all then delete chars and remake mercs HO when ToA arrives, other way you will be gimpeds according your gameplay.
If what u just said about midgard is true i think that is very sad and sickness.

 

[katt!]

Yes we have PE setup, tried both with a setup with 3 merc, and one with 3 clerics, but this works better.
Then people have to specc their chars right, there is no other solution if you want a perfect full group. and try to get one of each specc into the groups.
In midgard if youre specced wrong, you might be disbanded for it.
QUOTE]

I suggest you all then delete chars and remake mercs HO when ToA arrives, other way you will be gimpeds according your gameplay.
If what u just said about midgard is true i think that is very sad and sickness.

because +30str -15qui is the end of the world. or not. str based weapons kinda suck as well ;o

 

[bult]

because +30str -15qui is the end of the world. or not. str based weapons kinda suck as well ;o

slash will rock in ToA ;p and we have never cared about races, starting stats dont make much of a difference we got an inconnu crush merc in our guild ffs ;p

Group setup however makes a HUGE difference.

 

[Slu]

we got an inconnu crush merc in our guild ffs ;p

Get an Avalonian Paladin and you'd be complete!!



Anyway, this thread is great! Makes SCing much less tedious


AD is a great addition to Albion and it's always fun to fight them. So what if they use BBs, best set up possible and [insert random whine here]?

Do you think a Hib pbae group is made up by random chars?
Do you think a Mid tank group is made up by random chars?

Groups from all realms does the same as them and they too will differ from random groups when it comes to performance. The right classes, the right specs, people that know how to play, BBs, RAs, chat progs etc you name it, everyone can do it, it just takes time to organize it all, and that's why most people cba to do it (/ don't have time to do it).

As someone mentioned earlier it's common that SOME mid groups yell at each other to not add. And it's also common that certain guilds don't add on each other.
Those guilds are typically guilds that play for the fun of fg vs fg rvr and dislikies adds even if they're loosing.

About the Alb zerg, I'm a bit curious about where it will be when Frontiers hits us. No more AMG, no more constant supply of people etc. Could be interesting..

yeye, maybe this thread wasn't that much about the stuff I've written about, but it's so long so can't cover all of the topics in it


AD

 

[Bracken]

the thrill in this game is the fair fights, not to get unwanted help from king arthur

Not taking yourself too seriously isn't determined by how you like to play the game, but how you react when you don't get things your own way. Someone adding on "your" fight is no excuse for acting like a tosser. Same goes for a lot of things that happen in the game.

 

[Tinyheals]

Get an Avalonian Paladin and you'd be complete!!



Anyway, this thread is great! Makes SCing much less tedious


AD is a great addition to Albion and it's always fun to fight them. So what if they use BBs, best set up possible and [insert random whine here]?

Do you think a Hib pbae group is made up by random chars?
Do you think a Mid tank group is made up by random chars?

Groups from all realms does the same as them and they too will differ from random groups when it comes to performance. The right classes, the right specs, people that know how to play, BBs, RAs, chat progs etc you name it, everyone can do it, it just takes time to organize it all, and that's why most people cba to do it (/ don't have time to do it).

As someone mentioned earlier it's common that SOME mid groups yell at each other to not add. And it's also common that certain guilds don't add on each other.
Those guilds are typically guilds that play for the fun of fg vs fg rvr and dislikies adds even if they're loosing.

About the Alb zerg, I'm a bit curious about where it will be when Frontiers hits us. No more AMG, no more constant supply of people etc. Could be interesting..

yeye, maybe this thread wasn't that much about the stuff I've written about, but it's so long so can't cover all of the topics in it


AD

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We have avalonian cleric in guild, is that ok instead of the paladin.

Farek has banned all H-O's in guild, so even that we want to roll and replace, we arenät allowed to.

good luck with the spellcrafting slu, great healer of midgard

 

[Vodkafairy]

Not taking yourself too seriously isn't determined by how you like to play the game, but how you react when you don't get things your own way. Someone adding on "your" fight is no excuse for acting like a tosser. Same goes for a lot of things that happen in the game.

Adding on someone elses fight while you know they rather die than get adds is acting like a tosser too. So they just lower themself to your level

 

[Tinyheals]

Not taking yourself too seriously isn't determined by how you like to play the game, but how you react when you don't get things your own way. Someone adding on "your" fight is no excuse for acting like a tosser. Same goes for a lot of things that happen in the game.

the people that move out as 1 full group, are those who want to meet 1 full group and fight. that's kind of obvious isn't it?

dont understand your last sentance, but when you add on a fair fight, you destroy the fun for the fellow albs that are fighting, and for the people they fight against, and what fun do you get out of it?

 

[Kinad]

At this moment awfull, one of AD's mincers is running around in a 3 man small
group with a scout, not only adding on fights, but also killing solo enemy stealthers.

I think that says everything about them, and i completly understand their rights to tell me what to do, altho i have newer ruined any of their fights.

 

[Tinyheals]

At this moment awfull, one of AD's mincers is running around in a 3 man small
group with a scout, not only adding on fights, but also killing solo enemy stealthers.

I think that says everything about them.

yup a friend of ours is trying mincer for the first time.

 

[Ging]

Wow i've actually managed to read the whole of this thread....

Conclusion = Im tired. Got work tomorrow.

Got may ass handed to me loads today by the Hib tank group (don't know their name - They wear blue/yellow cloaks with blue/black Armour), even with Ra's up. We fought them 1fg vs 1fg and died. Tbh it wasn't much of a fight each time but the only time we did beat them was when another alb group added. We didn't play badly but not much u can do against a well played team.

Imo if you want a real challenge run an ALB Pbaoe caster group against a hib tank group with BOAD up and RA's.

Not sure if Skill will make any impact on that.

 

[Kinad]

yup a friend of ours is trying mincer for the first time.

So its right for you ebayed noobs to leech but not for me ?

 

[Vodkafairy]

Imo if you want a real challenge run an ALB Pbaoe caster group against a hib tank group with BOAD up and RA's.

Erm, baod isn't like a baseline spell for all hib classes... there's no such thing as baod in a tank group :]

Chanter ra etc? Chanter is no tank? No utility in a tank group either whereas an animist or eld could be usefull :x

 

[Vodkafairy]

So its right for you ebayed noobs to leech but not for me ?

You're allowed to leech, you're just a littul bit lame if you do in my and many more people's opinion :x

There's a difference between someone that plays a minstrel for the first time and a rr7 (?) scout tbh, or do you prefer to compare yourself with each other?

 

[Hotrats]

by StubbeIt seems their "Mid attitudes" is what it takes to succeed. I've been playing FG(before that I played a stealther) for 8 months, during which time Albs have done nothing but whine about being virtually unable to compete on a 8v8 basis.

Most of the time you played asd interupted, which was more than enough reason for plenty of whineage from my part at least I don't think anyone would argue with me if i say that mids have been very overpowered since they got end regen (first LA bug, then savages + asd interupting, which were/are HUGE imbalances imo).

Now that asd no longer interupts many alb groups are able to compete reasonably well vs mids fg vs fg (eg FC, BF, and AD etc). Vs hib pbae a 3 merc setup puts you at a huge dis-advantage from the start, with a reaver or theurg/caba instead I think again that albs can compete pretty well. The savage and chanter nerf should even things up a tiny bit more as well.... things never looked better for alb than they do next patch, shame its all thrown in the air again when TOA is released on the 25th.

Having now almost got my caba to rr4 im starting to think 2 caba 3 sorc groups are the best setup alb can achieve, certainly the most fun for me atm

 

[flex]

Having now almost got my caba to rr4 im starting to think 2 caba 3 sorc groups are the best setup alb can achieve, certainly the most fun for me atm

very yes

 

[Aussie]

this thread sux and so does morsan

 

[laaken]

So its right for you ebayed noobs to leech but not for me ?

Ouch.. such strong words, you're hurting our feelings.
I saw the fight you said "Awful" "added" on, which he didn't.
It was some newbie scout that did.
Once again, notice that it isn't Awful that's playing, he's at
sleep in his bed mate!

Don't jump to conclusions before the gun is loaded.

 

[Fedaykin]

Having now almost got my caba to rr4 im starting to think 2 caba 3 sorc groups are the best setup alb can achieve, certainly the most fun for me atm

was fun today Me and Galoecjunior run them quite often as well

They will be fotm soon

 

[Kinad]

Ouch.. such strong words, you're hurting our feelings.
I saw the fight you said "Awful" "added" on, which he didn't.
It was some newbie scout that did.
Once again, notice that it isn't Awful that's playing, he's at
sleep in his bed mate!

Don't jump to conclusions before the gun is loaded.

Its oldest excuse in the game, my sister did it, anyone can claim that.
In DaoC your responibel when your char is logged on, that is the rules.
The scout is a rr8 scout btw, but dunno if its jergiot anymore.

If your guys are gods of rvr i dont care.
What you ethics is i dont care.
I made a post about regular groups setups, which wont work in most alb
groups, and you start to throw mud at me. As to the NP part, both ardok and
combat are NP, but if the rest of you are not fine with me.
If high smite draws to much power and prevent rebuffing fine with me, i dont play a cleric and dont aim for elite groups, just pointing out some ways to maybe improve on normal spec for clerics.
Its not like you guys come and say, yes that insta interrupt is useful, to help
other albs. I have not said anywhere i dislike they way you play, but still
im called a leeching noob.
I have not as far as i recall added on your fights, because i dont need rp that much, you do, and i often let rvr groups fight if i think i will witness a good fight. Yes i will kill and add, like my class is designed to, and if
a chanter comes my way preparing to pbaoe a random composed alb group i will try to kill him. I dont even envy your results, if i wanted to play in a rvr
guild i would allready do so, but you guys are basically calling all the old stealthers for leeching noobs, and telling us to piss off.
Since your moving much faster than me, technically you interfering with a fight in my area each time you enter, i was there first. I might have stalked
those enemies for 10 min waiting for them to make a mistake, someone to lose stick, go afk... You ever think about that, or does the world just
turn around you ?

 

[Crash]

kinad just die you zerging tosser

 

[laaken]

Blablaba.. if I wanted to hear the tale of your life I would've asked for it.
As much as you might be responsible for your char you can't recognize
the person playing it as the owner at all times. Your arguments are pale
and pointless, thus you try to grab on to whatever you can.
Even if Awful would be awake and playing, the char didn't add, i saw the fight
with my own two eyes. Now stop hurling bullshit all over the place.

 

[Kinad]

kinad just die you zerging tosser

Such a shame you dont have the skill to beat me aint it, you see i dont
need 2-3 other sbs with me to play, and i will gladly take a duel with you
anytime. Maybe your bitter, but df and infils is not my fault, in fact i play a
balanced stealther class, and each day im attacked by a lot of rp hungry sbs,
often in small groups, which has no intention of giving me a fair fight.

 

[Imon]

Glottis you really seems terrifed that all your whine about poor albs was wrong :kissit:

maybe albs aren´t so gimped after all

and the attitude
pfff welcome to mid 1 year ago

 

[Gregorian]

i want fair small scale fights, and i want others to not ruin it.

i want huge battles, and i want others not to yell at me. ;((