What is doing AD in excalibur ? ( Albion ) discuss

[Kinad]

Why would you need more than 6 smite for that? First PBAE DD > Last PBAE DD. Exactly the same interrupt, only less mana. Same with the cleric with 10 smite, first AE dd > last AE dd.

My point is many alb clerics is not specced like that, or if they are they dont use it. Its logical that if you use BB's, clerics should max healing performance,
and be sure to have these 2 interrupts. What rest of points go into hardly important, altho if you dont do rebuff resist at atk, enhance on 1 cleric is important.

As to me leeching amg its a bit low, and must be the comment of a noob.
Just one word, borrow a scout, solo with him like i do, and try outperform me in rvr.

 

[Nuked]

It doens't make sense telling people to not leech, or help when you choosed to play the realm of albion (biggest one and with a collective psychology, everyone is welcome to get some rps, the most active grps accept if zerg arrives in a fg, atleast thats what my impression). You have a lot of communist-symbols, but I'm not sure it's a communist way to act, telling randomgrps(no buffs, no cleric, not much sc/procs) and soloers to not interfere. I mean, they all earn less rp than you and do not get the same rps as u even when they leech. So let them leech and give them some enjoyment, go play CS if you wan't single-group fights.

Elitism works with Lenin and Stalin works ofc (anti-communists). But not with Cuba and Palestina.

im a little confused here ... let me get this part straight ... you can tell them, that they are not allowed to tell people not to add when they dont need assistance, but you can tell them that they should go play CS, all because 1 time mythic/goa said this is a realm vs realm game and it was intended (when they made the game) for epic battles! you zerging albs really make the game sound like FOTM classes arn't fun! this game is played the way we choose to play it, each to his/her own .. not how we are told to play it. when you learn that, hopefully you will also learn to respect peoples wishes when they ask you not to add.

they use the set up they do because it works, the whole point behind using this set up is so they dont need to zerg to win. if they're doing this and make it clear they dont want adds, then dont add.

if they ask for help 1 time, and you dont like it ... dont help.

 

[katt!]

or if they are they dont use it.

i rest my case.

 

[opium]

^^

Why even bother? Let them act cool and be "elitist" with their QQ & owned, maybe its their only way to be.. over the net. Where your "unknown", in real life, they wouldn't be like this, PLEASE GOD give them their opportunity.

 

[Ola]

As to me leeching amg its a bit low, and must be the comment of a noob.
Just one word, borrow a scout, solo with him like i do, and try outperform me in rvr.

Hmm, I tried a mid healer a couple of runs yesterday.. Remember you shooting me while we fight 1fg+ albs at MMG with 4 zerker setup (not exactly fotm?). You hit me for about 700dmg, only remember it cuz I thought you shot hard and no1 else did dmg to me the whole fight.. But adding into fights aint soloing imo.

btw opium who is trying to act cool here except you?

 

[Lethul]

No but unless you allways have ra's up, sometimes hibs will find you first, mezz you and run in with 3 chanters/elds doing insane amount of damage, these nukes hit for atleast 500+ each and its insta death unless you can counter with pbaoe dam/mezz hopefully surprising hibs, since they probaly
wont burn moc when they think easy win.

if the pbaers run in and give free gp you will win even with their "insane" damage

 

[Gordonax]

DAoC is probably coded for HUGE battles, yes?
Lets have some more huge battles <oooooooops server crash!>
The lag you get with huge battles are probably coded in too

The only time I've had unusable lag was on once when there was a big Mid relic raid on Alb. Zerging round emain gives me no problems at all, and I have sucky machine (1ghz P3, altought with a Geforce4 ti graphics card).

You know I'm right

 

[Gordonax]

Like i said, lazy, never have to work for rp's when they can make them in the zerg. Casual gamers exist in mid/hib too but they don't bring 10fg+ to emain and camp milegates day in day out do they?

I think I just saw all the casual Hibs at Beno. 114, according to the guards, to take a keep thats undefended.

 

[Taen]

Depends on the circumstances, doesn't it? Sometimes it's obvious that it's 1fg vs 1fg (although it's a LONG time since I actually saw such a "fair" fight in emain), but sometimes it's not. If they say "please don't add" after I'd added once, that's fair enough. If I ignored that, then sure, abuse is fair



More stereotyping.

No you are wrong ... abuse isnt fair in any circumstance .. they can ask you not to add but if you decide you want to anyway ... then they have to accept that you are playing the game the way you want to, just like the way that they are ... I dont understand them asking ppl to respect the way they play the game yet not respecting people who play the game different.

If im in a fg vs fg fight and i ask someone not to add and they still do anyway, do you know what i do ? ... i say nothing and respect the fact that the person acknowledged my request but decided that he didnt want to stay out of the fight. Some ppl will add .. others wont .. but this does not give anyone any right to think that they can abuse ppl anyway they want.

Some of ADs members are hypocrites and ignorant people who have put a sour taste in the mouth of a lot of albs because of they way they have spoken to people. Ye know who ye are and ye bring shame on your guild and and its less vocal members.

 

[Kinad]

Hmm, I tried a mid healer a couple of runs yesterday.. Remember you shooting me while we fight 1fg+ albs at MMG with 4 zerker setup (not exactly fotm?). You hit me for about 700dmg, only remember it cuz I thought you shot hard and no1 else did dmg to me the whole fight.. But adding into fights aint soloing imo.

btw opium who is trying to act cool here except you?

Im a scout, its my job to add on enemy key targets and i will continue to do
so until Mythic gives me the damage and utilty of normal group classes.

I kill every enemy i can in rvr unless i get special request not to, or i judge a fight to look interesting and want to see the outcome.. Its not like neither hib or mid groups spare me either.

Btw there where several mid stealthers helping you in that fight, i know since
i killed them with ts after you left.

 

[judas]

Btw there where several mid stealthers helping you in that fight, i know since
i killed them with ts after you left.

cant solo eh?

 

[Iorlas]

Like i said, lazy, never have to work for rp's when they can make them in the zerg. Casual gamers exist in mid/hib too but they don't bring 10fg+ to emain and camp milegates day in day out do they?

Obviously you don't play during the day, from 8.30am mids/hibs camp apk in upto 3fgs, when there is a total of about 6 albs there.

 

[Taen]

You're a moron.

you are a moron !

 

[stubbe]

you are a moron !

 

[Kinad]

cant solo eh?

Ehh ?

So according to your rules, the only time im allowed to engage enemies is
when noone around except one ?

And they only time AD engage enemies is when there is precise 8 enemy players in a fg ?

 

[Taen]

So your tactic vs hibs is to smite them to death?

mate you're about 1.5 year behind schedule

10 pts in smite gives u an aoe which can be quite effective in interrupting a hib caster grp

 

[bult]

10 pts in smite gives u an aoe which can be quite effective in interrupting a hib caster grp

yes exactly thats why we have a 10 smite cleric but kinad seemed to think you needed more to kill pbae grps

 

[Fluid]

Obviously you don't play during the day, from 8.30am mids/hibs camp apk in upto 3fgs, when there is a total of about 6 albs there.

i play during the day plenty with it being inter-semester break at uni, not seen 3fg hibs "camping" there, i've seen hibs run there kill albs and run away again tho

 

[Herjulf]

AD is the only good thing that has ever happened to alb/exc. all the zerglings should follow their example, mids follow NP/JH, why cant albs do the same (and i dont mean follow as /STICK ffs!)?

So true.

Incredibly annoying not to friggin get a "fun" "balanced" "skill based" 1vs1fg fight, from 10.00 - 0100 daytime.
All one gets is 11fg albs coming in waves of atleast 2fg at a time, working what appears to be organised by chatgroup.
Wish i had a stable enuff computer for fraps. cuz i would then show u a standard sight for a shadowblade. 11+ fg albs moving amg-mmg then back again, then i oculd loop it cuz that is what is going on every day ffs.

Organised zerging all day long, zzzz.

At best HW or Odins offers best experience atm, imo bring RvR to HW.
All the damn lazy albs freaks have to do is transport themself to amg all day long.
Lets bring it to them.

 

[Fluid]

first we get...

As to me leeching amg its a bit low, and must be the comment of a noob.
Just one word, borrow a scout, solo with him like i do, and try outperform me in rvr.

Then we get...

Im a scout, its my job to add on enemy key targets and i will continue to do
so until Mythic gives me the damage and utilty of normal group classes.

I kill every enemy i can in rvr unless i get special request not to, or i judge a fight to look interesting and want to see the outcome.. Its not like neither hib or mid groups spare me either.

Btw there where several mid stealthers helping you in that fight, i know since
i killed them with ts after you left.

whats the difference?

 

[laaken]

My point is many alb clerics is not specced like that, or if they are they dont use it. Its logical that if you use BB's, clerics should max healing performance,
and be sure to have these 2 interrupts. What rest of points go into hardly important, altho if you dont do rebuff resist at atk, enhance on 1 cleric is important.

As to me leeching amg its a bit low, and must be the comment of a noob.
Just one word, borrow a scout, solo with him like i do, and try outperform me in rvr.

First of all, enhancement is great to have when you combat-ressurect. If you got a few seconds over you can toss spec dex, and base dex on all casters. There's allso a long way from where you die to apk, (if you're not GOL) so you need somewhat decent buffs so you can manage a fight in between if necessary.

I have 37 enhance spec for the resists and those other reasons which i already named (allso because we don't always have enough bots), do you really think we go back to apk every 10 minutes? We might want to make the best out of things, but that's not an option. Btw, I second what katt said.

 

[Ola]

lol Kinad... nice1
Also the mid stealthers might have watched the fight, not added like you did ?

 

[Gordonax]

i play during the day plenty with it being inter-semester break at uni, not seen 3fg hibs "camping" there, i've seen hibs run there kill albs and run away again tho

No, Hibs never camp AMG odins, do they?

 

[Bracken]

For this game to be fun, people need to put some effort in it.

Or maybe just relax a little and not take themselves quite so seriously

 

[Fluid]

No, Hibs never camp AMG odins, do they?

doesn't look like 10fg to me and for all i know they could've ran there after hearing inc, or just checking, next challenge: get me a screenie of hibs camping hmg/amg odin's over a 10 min period, 1 screenie every 1 min ^^

 

[Gordonax]

doesn't look like 10fg to me and for all i know they could've ran there after hearing inc, or just checking, next challenge: get me a screenie of hibs camping hmg/amg odin's over a 10 min period, 1 screenie every 1 min ^^

Who said 10fg? You said three. Seriously, if you don't think that Hibs camp AMG odins you don't go there often enough. Trust me on this. Those puppies were camping. Personally I don't think there's anything wrong with that, so I've no axe to grind.

 

[Taen]

right on brack

 

[Kinad]

yes exactly thats why we have a 10 smite cleric but kinad seemed to think you needed more to kill pbae grps

I was pointing out about ways to enhance alb groups, and if a group use
BB's and regular resist rebuffs, it might aswell spec higher smite for longer duration cc and higher damage. Important, probaly not.

If AD can beat other fg's fine for them, but their setup, which i believe
is PE setup, cant be performed by most alb groups, simply because peoples
specs are not right, people do irl stuff so you cant play a fixed group, and quite a few is still on 56k modems.... Its also a fact some of them comes from NP.

I have newer said they stink or i would leech from them, i have not mentioned
their infils leeching at amg just like any other infils, but they come and play smart on me without any reason.

 

[Kinad]

lol Kinad... nice1
Also the mid stealthers might have watched the fight, not added like you did ?

Heheheh you wish, now get real mate

 

[AtomicBattleHamster]

If I was generalising i would of said ALL albs, not most

It all boils down to jealousy in the end.

* Alb cant get in 'leet rvr guild'
* Alb doesnt get invited to 'leet groups'

* Alb decides to make a random group
* Alb group dies against even numbers

* Alb decides to post on FH that 'leet rvr guild' is lame for some random excuse but really he is bitter b'cos he doesnt get invited to their group

* After being flamed by the more sophisticated players of DAoC, Alb decides that adding is 'ok' cos he cant get in the uber groups and feels inclined to ruin others 'fun'
* Alb gets a barrage of abuse for adding
* Alb posts again on FH that 'leet rvr guild' is elitist and ruin the game for others.


or something like that..

Now THAT is generalising. But its also quite true, as ive gathered from reading your posts.

Firstly,

My mistake in taking your comment too literally, for that I apologize but I would like to note, your initial comment was pretty much directed at Albion in general (not giving or taking the odd people you may like or get on with); so lets not be too evasive on that part

Secondly
I don't understand how you've come to your conclusion that for one moment I've been talking about bitter Albs, from anything I've posted. Please explain to me how you come to that assumption. Though I think you've missed the point of what I was trying to say.

If you're assuming that I was condoling adding and inciting people to add because it's their choice, then you are mistaken. I only posted what I've seen and how I perceive things to be on Excal, and as I've stated before, I do not believe myself to correct as it’s just an opinion.

Playing devils advocate is a tricky game, which I'd like to think I did well and clearly