What is doing AD in excalibur ? ( Albion ) discuss

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Xanthian

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AtomicBattleHamster said:
FIXT!

*NB. My refrences to you and your post being immature is all I have to go on. With such stupid generalistic comments and sweeping statements like the one you made, I have no other reason to think otherwise. I do hope you don't take offence because none is intended but as you can see fighting fire with fire achieves nothing.
If I was generalising i would of said ALL albs, not most ;)

It all boils down to jealousy in the end.

* Alb cant get in 'leet rvr guild'
* Alb doesnt get invited to 'leet groups'

* Alb decides to make a random group
* Alb group dies against even numbers

* Alb decides to post on FH that 'leet rvr guild' is lame for some random excuse but really he is bitter b'cos he doesnt get invited to their group

* After being flamed by the more sophisticated players of DAoC, Alb decides that adding is 'ok' cos he cant get in the uber groups and feels inclined to ruin others 'fun'
* Alb gets a barrage of abuse for adding
* Alb posts again on FH that 'leet rvr guild' is elitist and ruin the game for others.


or something like that..

Now THAT is generalising. But its also quite true, as ive gathered from reading your posts.
 

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Fluid said:
explain then, cos it's exactly how you sounded.
Wanting to play the game in a certain way does not make you an elitist in my opinion. Thinking and acting like you are better than everyone else does.

With an attitude like that you must go through life rather lonely or surrounded by people with a similar attitude. Either way would result in a, from my point of view, poor life.

Has nothing to do with DAoC really, but it is a shame that I have to listen to that shit here and ingame.
 

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Kinad said:
If you cant counter pbaoe you will lose when ra's is down and hibs get surprise, the damage done is simply to much.

we can counter pbae Oo

we got sorc theurg minstrel and cleric (10 smite) that can interupt the box its more then enough. All you need after that is tanks that know when to get the hell out of the box and someone (pally/mincer) to take care of the pets... Sure this does not work EVERYTIME but most of the time it does.
 

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Fluid said:
still never seen this 10fg hibs camping except for relic shit, thats since like day1 of excal :p i've only heard of hibs having more than 100 in emain on a few rare occasions and never seen 80 of them at a milegate sat there for any period of time. Hell its rare for hibs to even have 50+ in emain with the current RvR climate (Read; Albs everywhere)
Scenario, albs take crimm and have already DC, hib zerg (if not 10fg very close) go retake crimm, they do and kill the albs in process, do the hib force move to DC?, no they go camp amg to kill/stop the alb deffend force, after all alb force is dead/splitted the hib force go DC, after a couple of amg camp as i said. Believe me, it happends, ask any alb player you know if you want. Hib have less pple, and is a shame, but you can make big zergs in retake cases, dude.
 

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stighelmer said:
Wanting to play the game in a certain way does not make you an elitist in my opinion. Thinking and acting like you are better than everyone else does.

With an attitude like that you must go through life rather lonely or surrounded by people with a similar attitude. Either way would result in a, from my point of view, poor life.

Has nothing to do with DAoC really, but it is a shame that I have to listen to that shit here and ingame.

There's nothing wrong with expressing opinions on here or ingame, i don't think any AD people would say they are better in "real life" than alb zergling #234234 but i'm sure as hell that they are better at daoc than them. That doesn't make me elitist afaik.
 

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Antedeluvian said:
Scenario, albs take crimm and have already DC, hib zerg (if not 10fg very close) go retake crimm, they do and kill the albs in process, do the hib force move to DC?, no they go camp amg to kill/stop the alb deffend force, after all alb force is dead/splitted the hib force go DC, after a couple of amg camp as i said. Believe me, it happends, ask any alb player you know if you want. Hib have less pple, and is a shame, but you can make big zergs in retake cases, dude.
Never seen 10fg hibs camp AMG, they go there and clear albs then move DC.. at least the times I've seen it.
 

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Antedeluvian said:
Scenario, albs take crimm and have already DC, hib zerg (if not 10fg very close) go retake crimm, they do and kill the albs in process, do the hib force move to DC?, no they go camp amg to kill/stop the alb deffend force, after all alb force is dead/splitted the hib force go DC, after a couple of amg camp as i said. Believe me, it happends, ask any alb player you know if you want. Hib have less pple, and is a shame, but you can make big zergs in retake cases, dude.

when we start losing 2+ keeps i'd pretty much start thinking relics imo, hence the commetn about relic shit before. Still, 80 people, hmm thats a LOT for hibs, personnally don't think we'd muster that many for a keep retake unless we get very nervous
 

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Kinad said:
Well as far as i can tell its mostly old NP members who want to prove that
albion is good, or atleast they are better.

Knowing them they probaly has 2/3 enhance bots at atk, and one might argue if thats a fg then. This allows for the 10 min back and rebuff setup for maximum resists. Im pretty sure they run clerics with smite spec too. Put on top of that voice com, swedish 100 mbit connetions, old experienced players, and a generally fotm setup with every advantage possibel, and yes alb classes will do good against most others.

This experiment has no pratically meaning, since only very very few people on the server can do this. It has nothing to do with pickupgroups or even guildgroups, what its shows is that if you can stack enough advantages, you
might win with enferior classes.

We have usually 3 bots at apk.
We never buff resists from buffbots.
We don't have friarbots.
We have clerics with smitespec, cause its worthless to have 2 on high enh.
 

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Fluid said:
There's nothing wrong with expressing opinions on here or ingame, i don't think any AD people would say they are better in "real life" than alb zergling #234234 but i'm sure as hell that they are better at daoc than them. That doesn't make me elitist afaik.
agree. 100%

and i would not say that i know how ppl are like IRL just from reading posts and hearing some stuff ingame.

but a continued display of a certain attitude by calling ppl c*nts, that they shud die IRL etc etc, gives me atleast a hint of what they are like - and tbh I pitty them. I really do, it is not something i am just saying...

and btw, I am not directing this to AD specifically. But _some of 'em_ has shown some piss poor attitude on these boards and ingame. I just wish they could use a different tactic to get their opinions and views across. that's all.
 

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Kinad said:
If you cant counter pbaoe you will lose when ra's is down and hibs get surprise, the damage done is simply to much.

So your tactic vs hibs is to smite them to death?

mate you're about 1.5 year behind schedule
 

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Fluid said:
when we start losing 2+ keeps i'd pretty much start thinking relics imo, hence the commetn about relic shit before. Still, 80 people, hmm thats a LOT for hibs, personnally don't think we'd muster that many for a keep retake unless we get very nervous
Two weeks ago u did the retakes of crimm whit 90+ pple twice at least, ask GoL they were the guild who claimed crimm, then you did the DC retake whit 70+, (after camp amg for 10 mins), whit at least 3fgh in amg looking for albs, in DC case we were the keep owners once, dont remember the other time. Last week i dont know, job owned me badly, but i doubt the case would be very different.As i said, ask any alb you know if you want.
Btw, my job-time just finished :drink:
 

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the fact that it originated from a keep retake force means nothing to you, no?
 

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Nuked said:
the fact that it originated from a keep retake force means nothing to you, no?
Did i said the opposite? read my posts before reply me please.
 

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just read the entire post and it sickens me tbh
i got respect for AD mainly because of farek
all the other players i dont know them , never played with them, never heard of em(on alb that is) before
seems some got a rather huge ego problem and think they own emain and are far superior then every other alb and are trying to prove that albs wer wrong all the time
i totally agree with the non adding policy
hate it when ppl add to our fights , hate it when we add to other ppl their fights

but still that gives nobody the right to play as if they claimed every fg fight in emain. i mean its emain for god sake...
if you want pure fg vs fg fights go odins or do arranged fights in HW
but dont start spamming a yell macro 15times in a row while other ppl just pass and werent even close to adding..

somebody said in the thread that is very common for mids to yell at eachother so they wont add
lol yeah right i have yet to see the first mid gg who didnt add on us...

and about those few mids rerolled albion to prove that we wer wrong all the time
plz stay in mid, dont ruin albion too
sure the warden zerg is abit annoying sometimes but atleast everyone gets a chance to RvR with a char they played over months in pve
who cares if his class performs abit less in RvR as long as everyone gets his share of the fun

seems in mid ppl have forgotten this a long time agoo
RR2savages preferred over RR8zerkers, barely any active casters /castergrps no thanes etc in rvr
a kind of fotm behaviour where everyone lost intrest in their own realm and got no problem with doing alarmclock RRs
everyone slightly intrested in RvR is forced to PL the new fotm in order to get a grp

and now some mids in AD come and do the same thing in albion
PL or even get a toon PLed find a scer find an alchemist and buy your first necklase to emain 5days later
i hate it how daoc has grown this way but it seems to be the general trend

bring on toa fast imho..

and i really dont understand how hibs and mids think so highly of AD and so low of the other guilds who constantly run as fg only (TB FC and BF)
as if AD just invented running fg on alb excal...

anyway keep up the good work AD but plz lose the elitalist mentality it will only harm yourselve..


btw hibs and mids why dont you try a non adding policy too btw...
xcept for IG the only non alb guild i highly respect
 

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It doens't make sense telling people to not leech, or help when you choosed to play the realm of albion (biggest one and with a collective psychology, everyone is welcome to get some rps, the most active grps accept if zerg arrives in a fg, atleast thats what my impression). You have a lot of communist-symbols, but I'm not sure it's a communist way to act, telling randomgrps(no buffs, no cleric, not much sc/procs) and soloers to not interfere. I mean, they all earn less rp than you and do not get the same rps as u even when they leech. So let them leech and give them some enjoyment, go play CS if you wan't single-group fights.

Elitism works with Lenin and Stalin works ofc (anti-communists). But not with Cuba and Palestina.
 

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Highwind said:
I haven't seen AD play much, but it's sure (ctrl+c) Nolby Pride and (ctrl+v) AD. They get treated by the public the same way and act the same way. Wheter they (both nolby and AD) act good or not, I don't have enough experience to make a reasonable statement.

The question is, why are they Nolby Pride2?
hint: 1
 

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Elitism is a part of life, it could be said is human nature. Elitism is not having to resort to nasty or petty put downs/comments such as fuck off and die etc. That is being childish, not elitist.
 

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Tinyheals said:
So your tactic vs hibs is to smite them to death?

mate you're about 1.5 year behind schedule

No but unless you allways have ra's up, sometimes hibs will find you first, mezz you and run in with 3 chanters/elds doing insane amount of damage, these nukes hit for atleast 500+ each and its insta death unless you can counter with pbaoe dam/mezz hopefully surprising hibs, since they probaly
wont burn moc when they think easy win.
 

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Kinad said:
No but unless you allways have ra's up, sometimes hibs will find you first, mezz you and run in with 3 chanters/elds doing insane amount of damage, these nukes hit for atleast 500+ each and its insta death unless you can counter with pbaoe dam/mezz hopefully surprising hibs, since they probaly
wont burn moc when they think easy win.
maybe you should stick to leeching @ amg?
 

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Tinyheals said:
how many thanes or runemasters do you see in a perfect set mid group
how many champions and mentalists do you see in a perfect set hib group

Thing is that there are classes that aren't very viable this patch.
You can all rvr as much as you want, go 2 fullgroups, i dont care at all,
just - don't - help - us - in - a - fair - fight.

Hibs and Mids perspective of albion as a realm is a bounch of 12year-old kids with shiny armor in a glorious chatgroup so the realm will win the holy war.
And that there's no chance in hell even if they bother, that they can kill a fullgroup enemies, but instead yell in the chatgroup for more people to come.

this is wrong, albion is very hard to play, but we can do really good.
Just that albion on excalibur seems a bit "not-interested".
errr i wasent saying that alb was easyer to play i was just saying that its alot more fun getting into groups with the class you like rather than having to play a fotm one to get groups i play a thane btw
 

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katt! said:
if you are at a pve camp, happily pulling etc - i wouldnt run in and start killstealing. most people in albion wouldnt.

in rvr however - they do.

why?
Maybe because when the team in PvE gets wiped the mobs are not gonna attack you. In RvR that is very likely.
 

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Jaapi said:
Maybe because when the team in PvE gets wiped the mobs are not gonna attack you. In RvR that is very likely.

you have obviously never exped at tanglers then ;p quite fun seeing the whole lyonesse getting wiped after a bad pull Tt
 

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Highwind said:
It doens't make sense telling people to not leech, or help when you choosed to play the realm of albion (biggest one and with a collective psychology, everyone is welcome to get some rps, the most active grps accept if zerg arrives in a fg, atleast thats what my impression). You have a lot of communist-symbols, but I'm not sure it's a communist way to act, telling randomgrps(no buffs, no cleric, not much sc/procs) and soloers to not interfere. I mean, they all earn less rp than you and do not get the same rps as u even when they leech. So let them leech and give them some enjoyment, go play CS if you wan't single-group fights.

Elitism works with Lenin and Stalin works ofc (anti-communists). But not with Cuba and Palestina.

:kissit: :kissit: :kissit: :kissit:

slicka whinewind.
 

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Kinad said:
No but unless you allways have ra's up, sometimes hibs will find you first, mezz you and run in with 3 chanters/elds doing insane amount of damage, these nukes hit for atleast 500+ each and its insta death unless you can counter with pbaoe dam/mezz hopefully surprising hibs, since they probaly
wont burn moc when they think easy win.

Why would you need more than 6 smite for that? First PBAE DD > Last PBAE DD. Exactly the same interrupt, only less mana. Same with the cleric with 10 smite, first AE dd > last AE dd.
 
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