Well done albs

[Balbor]

We can't do it after next patch Balbor. At that point, class balance is addressed leaving Hib/pryd with nothing to mitigate low population. Hopefully some brave Middies and Albs will think "I love a challenge" can come roll on our fair realm.

A Challange ?, you have 2 relics to our 1, and Hibs how more guild in the top 20 of the Euro servers than albs (9-2 in his favour with albs highest guild ranking 12). The challange would really be one of the top guilds from mid or hib coming to albion and dommination the battlefield in the same way they do in Mid/Hib (but that i mean 1fg taking a 10 keep with the defenders outnumbering them 2-1, or 1FG taking out 3fg+ of enemies which include opted groups and high RR players). The Truth is they can't or in reality they are just not good enough, they have tried but, coming over in mass, rolling opted groups, but they soon disapear becasue its just too tough. They should of introduced the handycap on realm doing well and enemy relics in standard keeps a long time ago, infact that one change is more significent that the whole of NF put together.

Why are mids and hibs so scared of albions having ability such as ranged instent CC? CC is such an importaint part of RvR it ranks up there with Healing and i know mids wouldn't like it if they was the only realm not to have spread heals or Bards only had caster speed.

 

[Tareregion]

People who still believe that animists are the backbone of Hibernian relic operations should be getting some sense beaten into them irl.

 

[Boggy]

A Challange ?, you have 2 relics to our 1, and Hibs how more guild in the top 20 of the Euro servers than albs (9-2 in his favour with albs highest guild ranking 12). The challange would really be one of the top guilds from mid or hib coming to albion and dommination the battlefield in the same way they do in Mid/Hib (but that i mean 1fg taking a 10 keep with the defenders outnumbering them 2-1, or 1FG taking out 3fg+ of enemies which include opted groups and high RR players). The Truth is they can't or in reality they are just not good enough, they have tried but, coming over in mass, rolling opted groups, but they soon disapear becasue its just too tough. They should of introduced the handycap on realm doing well and enemy relics in standard keeps a long time ago, infact that one change is more significent that the whole of NF put together.

Why are mids and hibs so scared of albions having ability such as ranged instent CC? CC is such an importaint part of RvR it ranks up there with Healing and i know mids wouldn't like it if they was the only realm not to have spread heals or Bards only had caster speed.

I can't take any credit for that Hib success but I'll think you'll find it's because they've done certain things very well rather than having been given an advantage on a plate.

Read up on the US history of NF if you haven't already. The Hib situation was pretty dominant on some servers for relics etc. but turned around overnight. Why was this do you think? Was it because all those Albs suddenly got better? No, it was because the realmwar map means that any given fight can be pounced on by everyone who can find their frontier keep.

So, yes, I would say NF will be a challenge for Hib when we have significantly lower population. When it all comes down to a numbers game with people flocking to keeps to battle on attrition, we're gonna have a problem.

In addition, the fixed emplacement battles make range a key to victory. Alb has best ranges out of all 3 realms.

I'm not going to play the pointless game of "oooh you got this ability and we haven't" because realm balance is more complex than that. I've already acknoledged that anis are currently overpowered in keep battles. But come NF deciding factors will be range and numbers. Hib wins on neither. If you wanna challenge come play here. If you want a REAL challenge, come play an animist here, and keep playing it 2 weeks past 1.70.

 

[Morchaoron]

jesus, albs suck arse here

..says the buff exploiting excal zergfil 8-]

 

[Balbor]

I can't take any credit for that Hib success but I'll think you'll find it's because they've done certain things very well rather than having been given an advantage on a plate.

Being able to spam many shroom on top of eachother outside of the hib power relic, in an area where you can only get LOS on them when well within there nuking range becasue of the steep hill is an advantage on a plate when you consider if hib relic keep was place in a similar spot to albions power keep it would not of been a problem.

Read up on the US history of NF if you haven't already. The Hib situation was pretty dominant on some servers for relics etc. but turned around overnight. Why was this do you think? Was it because all those Albs suddenly got better? No, it was because the realmwar map means that any given fight can be pounced on by everyone who can find their frontier keep.

So, yes, I would say NF will be a challenge for Hib when we have significantly lower population. When it all comes down to a numbers game with people flocking to keeps to battle on attrition, we're gonna have a problem.

Currently Hibs are genraly able to dominate Albion in rvr dispite having fewer numbers yet many people see this a OK (as it has been for the past few years). Now when Albion is able to dominate Hibs in RvR (post NF) all of a sudden the game is unfair. The changes being made in NF have nothing what so ever to do with Hibs, they are being made to give realm with a low population a boost, this isn't always Hibs. The changes also give a handy cap to the realm that is do too well in RvR at any given time.

In addition, the fixed emplacement battles make range a key to victory. Alb has best ranges out of all 3 realms.

This only based o looking at one spell, AOE mezz, and while that one goes to albion. However there are other importaint spell, both Mids and Hibs have more NS caster (who are also Bolt casters, while wizards have no NS). Both mids and hibs have better range instent Mezz (1500 vs 0), mids have better instent stun (1500 vs 700). Pre NF the best place to see ranged stand offs is at the DF entrances where albion is way behind in 3rd place, with Hibs easly able to kill people way out of LOS, and the huge number of instent interupts avalible to prevent people making offencive moves.

I'm not going to play the pointless game of "oooh you got this ability and we haven't" because realm balance is more complex than that. I've already acknoledged that anis are currently overpowered in keep battles. But come NF deciding factors will be range and numbers. Hib wins on neither. If you wanna challenge come play here. If you want a REAL challenge, come play an animist here, and keep playing it 2 weeks past 1.70.

Before the nerfs made to Animist for NF they looked set to storm over NF keeps with nothing able to stop them. As for range, the longest range spell at there disposale is also instent cast, meaning it can be cast while running at full speed. Hibs need to adapt to loosing there GP which for the past 2 years have made them pritty immune to CC.

Your right, this in no point playing a game of "oooh you got this ability and we haven't" becasue what is there that we have that you want for RvR?

 

[Balbor]

People who still believe that animists are the backbone of Hibernian relic operations should be getting some sense beaten into them irl.

ooh we forgot the fonts of power, happy now

 

[Elenos]

hehehehehe and how sad are you insulting people over how they choose to play a GAME? jees, for some people DAOC is a lifestyle .. give it up now and then :touch:

 

[Pudzy]

not really an alarm clock raid as many of us didn't even go to bed

xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Thick fuck

 

[Steveh]

If this will get more albs out its ok for me

But relic raid from 4-5 am to around 8 uke:

Joor changed the IP.i not know who is but also a hungaryan isp.Stop it pls its anyoing.

 

[Puppet]

Joor changed the IP.i not know who is but also a hungaryan isp.Stop it pls its anyoing.

You joking.. right?

 

[Gahn]

Uhm

So you're not upset about losing the relic, as you're saying we could do that at prime time anyway, you're just upset about not being able to farm rp's from a 300 strong alb zerg with your leet OP'd animists ?=p

What about a bandwagon of stfu? And some bollox pls instead of early morning raids, if u ever gonna grown some.

Nah, the gimps are the 1fg hib groups you camp amg odin's with after I solo 2/3 of your guild. =<

Again, evidence, or else stfu.

 

[Bowie]

What`s the big deal realy ?

So alb got back a power-relic, so what !!


This is a 24 hours non stop GAME, so if u wanna QQ, do that to Mythic, for not setting all relics to : Imune from 24-12 .

Brings some live to game when relics are beeing taken, not the other way around.

And to be fair, we cant realy blame Albs, for Hib beeing under-populaitet on Pry.

So Imo: use more energi on getting Back (Albs power relic) Home to Hib where - i agrea - it belongs hehe, and use less time on making/reading useless Threads, including the one u are reading now


Play the game and have fun, or stop playing and have fun RL Bouth wayes i bet would be a nice change to many peeps in here

 

[Steveh]

You joking.. right?

checked myn IP twice and its always different.....

 

[Gahn]

Omg

checked myn IP twice and its always different.....

Rofl maybe u reconnected 2 times and DHCP from your ISP gave u 2 different IPs? ^^

 

[Steveh]

Rofl maybe u reconnected 2 times and DHCP from your ISP gave u 2 different IPs? ^^

at home i have fix ip and in the work to.

 

[Maleg]

checked myn IP twice and its always different.....

Hmm, Steveh, it's a little script thingy that displays your details only for you. Don't worry nobody else can see your IP address (they see their own). Nobody's stalking you... well maybe they are, but I don't think it's Joor.

 

[Gahn]

Uhm

at home i have fix ip and in the work to.

U using a Proxy?

 

[Steveh]

Hmm, Steveh, it's a little script thingy that displays your details only for you. Don't worry nobody else can see your IP address (they see their own). Nobody's stalking you... well maybe they are, but I don't think it's Joor.

i know
but i still have different adress

 

[Ezeine]

i know
but i still have different adress

Does it matter? It's only you who see this change.

 

[[SS]Gamblor]

People who still believe that animists are the backbone of Hibernian relic operations should be getting some sense beaten into them irl.

well i was in a grp with 3 other animists, a dr00d , bard and ranja.

all spamming shrooms in the same spot. come this morning ( about 1 am)
albs decided to try and charge the doors again ( think it was more of a suicide tbh) and i made 2 k in seconds.

Say what u want but shrooms still own

 

[haarewin]

Being able to spam many shroom on top of eachother outside of the hib power relic, in an area where you can only get LOS on them when well within there nuking range becasue of the steep hill is an advantage on a plate when you consider if hib relic keep was place in a similar spot to albions power keep it would not of been a problem.

fixed in 1.70!

Currently Hibs are genraly able to dominate Albion in rvr dispite having fewer numbers yet many people see this a OK (as it has been for the past few years). Now when Albion is able to dominate Hibs in RvR (post NF) all of a sudden the game is unfair. The changes being made in NF have nothing what so ever to do with Hibs, they are being made to give realm with a low population a boost, this isn't always Hibs. The changes also give a handy cap to the realm that is do too well in RvR at any given time.

wrong, hibs cant consistently beat well played alb/mid groups (PE/FL), same as albs or mids cant consistently beat well played hib groups (except maybe the buff abusers). the fact that albion is dominating post NF is based entirely on population, rather than albs suddenly getting skillz overnight.

This only based o looking at one spell, AOE mezz, and while that one goes to albion. However there are other importaint spell, both Mids and Hibs have more NS caster (who are also Bolt casters, while wizards have no NS). Both mids and hibs have better range instent Mezz (1500 vs 0), mids have better instent stun (1500 vs 700). Pre NF the best place to see ranged stand offs is at the DF entrances where albion is way behind in 3rd place, with Hibs easly able to kill people way out of LOS, and the huge number of instent interupts avalible to prevent people making offencive moves.

you are forgetting scouts have extra range. sat on top of a keep scouts can shoot anyone attacking the keep and they cant even be lull'd/ns'd even with +10% range, thanks to the elevation/range bonus for bow. hunters and rangers, however, cannot.
and when did nearsight get put into void line, or into runecarving line? elds/runies that SPEC for the best nearsight will have shit bolts, and players speccing for best bolts with have mediocre nearsight that is very often resisted. nearsight is on a matter cabby, if you are upset because your realm has so few matter cabbys, roll one yourself.
i for one would happily trade my insta mez for bolt range mez or insta lull for castable amnesia, but i'm unsure if i speak for the whole bard population.

Before the nerfs made to Animist for NF they looked set to storm over NF keeps with nothing able to stop them. As for range, the longest range spell at there disposale is also instent cast, meaning it can be cast while running at full speed. Hibs need to adapt to loosing there GP which for the past 2 years have made them pritty immune to CC.

um, all of animists spells have 1500 range (except for turrets, which take 5 seconds to cast and are only placable 1000 units away), and if you are bitching about their insta cast con debuff (it doesnt interrupt), then you've ran out of bullshit to proclaim hibernia as overpowered.

 

[Polkadot]

I for one would happily trade my insta mez for bolt range mez or insta lull for castable amnesia, but i'm unsure if i speak for the whole bard population.

It's a tricky one really - generally speaking I'll try and land a casted mezz and only use Insta Mezz if I'm being beaten on. I don't think I've used the Insta Mezz as a first line of attack since I got some MotArt in order to be able to stand a fair chance against similar CC'ers from other realms.

However, it's never as easy as just trading one for the other. Personally I think Healers & Bards were given the Insta versions because they don't have the ability to QC when being hit and much as I'd like Bolt Range mezz I wouldn't want to give up my only chance of being able to CC while being interrupted for it.

About the only thing I can say to Balbor is - the grass is always greener. Clearly there are some alb groups capable of going out and earning good RPs and I'm fairly sure that they would laugh at the suggestion that they are 'dominated' by Hibs in RvR.

 

[Enli]

About the only thing I can say to Balbor is - the grass is always greener. Clearly there are some alb groups capable of going out and earning good RPs and I'm fairly sure that they would laugh at the suggestion that they are 'dominated' by Hibs in RvR.

playing a bit in both realms ---> harder to make a decent and dedicated setup in alb but when they do it gives real good fights

and idd we only see what "overpowered" stuff another realm has and not what they lack in comparison with ourselves

 

[Tuppe]

and about pop situation ~1400 was in prydwen, ~400 mids.
what i have check its allways quite near this same ammount comparing server population.
if hibs have 20% serv pop and mids ~27% there must be 53% albs true?

more i bet hibs hibs ~25%, mids ~30% and rest albs.

 

[haarewin]

It's a tricky one really - generally speaking I'll try and land a casted mezz and only use Insta Mezz if I'm being beaten on. I don't think I've used the Insta Mezz as a first line of attack since I got some MotArt in order to be able to stand a fair chance against similar CC'ers from other realms.

However, it's never as easy as just trading one for the other. Personally I think Healers & Bards were given the Insta versions because they don't have the ability to QC when being hit and much as I'd like Bolt Range mezz I wouldn't want to give up my only chance of being able to CC while being interrupted for it.

About the only thing I can say to Balbor is - the grass is always greener. Clearly there are some alb groups capable of going out and earning good RPs and I'm fairly sure that they would laugh at the suggestion that they are 'dominated' by Hibs in RvR.

change sig tt :<
good arguments and maybe i wouldnt change so happily, but i'd still love castable amnesia :X

 

[Eroda]

Each realm has its own advantages and disadvantages really, with groups from all realms being able to compete at the highest level.

With hindsight i would probably have rolled on hib though as group setups look to be more flexible and classes in general seem more fun.

Personally finding my wizard intensely dull atm, its basically bolt bolt, nuke nuke nuke etc etc, would be nice to have a little utility like a gimp NS in the earth line

 

[Steveh]

About the only thing I can say to Balbor is - the grass is always greener. Clearly there are some alb groups capable of going out and earning good RPs and I'm fairly sure that they would laugh at the suggestion that they are 'dominated' by Hibs in RvR.

i agree here but dont forget the grass is always thing is coming from both side.

yes and i laugh on that suggestion becouse a good playing alb group can earn very good rp-s and can dominate !! in the zone where are they playing.
all realm have advantage only two thing need for it.time and skill

 

[Jupiter]

i agree here but dont forget the grass is always thing is coming from both side.

yes and i laugh on that suggestion becouse a good playing alb group can earn very good rp-s and can dominate !! in the zone where are they playing.
all realm have advantage only two thing need for it.time and skill

come here and dominate the end of my battler m8, its still got some left over sinews/clothing from ur last run in with it

 

[Steveh]

come here and dominate the end of my battler m8, its still got some left over sinews/clothing from ur last run in with it

is that guy playing still?

 

[Jupiter]

is that guy playing still?

hahahah, whos yer daddy?!!! :touch: