warlockzerg ruined all soloing/duoing?

[majik]

was just a stupid comparison, but you couldnt have thought it was one right?
aimstar said about chambers being in ml line so cut the crap

No I understood perfectly, it just amused me slightly thats all.

 

[noaim]

aimstar... if they had mocthing @ rr5 on 15min timer and chambers was an ml9 ability that all convokers could use i wouldnt give a fuck.

I was just referring to people trying to say that its ok for sorcs to be op´d because it takes a while before they are it, but its not ok for warlocks because they are op´d as soon as they hit 50...or 45, or whatever, but you get the point.

 

[Tilda]

Well, you have to take all things into consideration when you judge a class. Maybe a sorc needs more stuff and need to spend more time to be overpowered, but I dont find it very relevant. Would you think warlocks are ok, if they got the uninterruptable primer at rr5 and the chambers at ml9 instead of from speccing?

They would be more ballanced compared to a sorc if this was the case yes. Although its still insta-kill vs fast kill.

 

[noaim]

They would be more ballanced compared to a sorc if this was the case yes. Although its still insta-kill vs fast kill.

You just dont get it do you. When and how they get the abilities dont matter, when all you need is 500k rp´s and some ml´s. If you needed 5 million rp´s to get SoI, you would have a point, but you dont. Warlocks are overpowered, they are worse than sorcs, but sorcs arent exactly weak either, just because they need some rp´s and ml9 to fully utilizie their overpoweredness.

 

[censi]

must admit i think the other cata classes are fine.

bainshees defo are not overpowered. basically just another caster with nice cone conept but lacking ranged utility.

vamps cool, but no crunching impact to the game.

heretics, seem to have a few nice things nothing major.

Warlocks to me are just a no brainer really. It is annoying when the first thing you know about is that your getting chamber dump on you and the next thing you know you are dead.

but its the class not the players thats at fault. we are all fotms tbh. most of us go for a class we think is good, its just a lot of the time we cba to level it at the time.

 

[Chimaira]

Warlock dot only does about 150ish per tick after nerf

 

[Flimgoblin]

but its the class not the players thats at fault. we are all fotms tbh. most of us go for a class we think is good, its just a lot of the time we cba to level it at the time.

I'm not

though crossbow armsmen and smite clerics will be fotm one day!

 

[Flimgoblin]

Sorc solo isn't "strong" or "very strong", it's instawin and there are no plans to nerf it.

instawin against a pure melee class... casters still obliterate a sorc with RR5 ability up. (e.g. a warlock, purge the mezz, chamber dump)

warlocks are instawin vs. everything...

not saying that sorcs are fine and dandy and balanced (tm) but there's far worse things at sea

 

[Brylle Madness]

Some quite good reading here.

Some of my thoughts:

When Si came most hardcore rvr mids rolled Savages (thank god I didn't) for WTFPWN dmg etc. "When I can't get it up I want to kill lots of ppl in rvr then I feel really good."
And now its just the same.

I wont roll warlock and I didnt roll savage and thats mostly because I don't want to play easymode its no challenge really it seemed/seems.

One more thing thats irritating is that we in mid suffer quite much too because of these warlocks cause in tower, on bridge and keep action you wont get any action unless you got a nice fg running around. As I play my RM quite much in small groups etc and when in tower etc all you see is these carnival guys standing next to Oil waiting for a bold move from any alb/hib for some nice insta kills.

Please delete Warlocks from the game and then maybe I will forgive Mythic for releasing DAoC: "We give you new toys" Catacombs (my ass you do)

MVH: Madness

 

[Blazor Meneth]

Some quite good reading here.

Some of my thoughts:

When Si came most hardcore rvr mids rolled Savages (thank god I didn't) for WTFPWN dmg etc. "When I can't get it up I want to kill lots of ppl in rvr then I feel really good."
And now its just the same.

I wont roll warlock and I didnt roll savage and thats mostly because I don't want to play easymode its no challenge really it seemed/seems.

One more thing thats irritating is that we in mid suffer quite much too because of these warlocks cause in tower, on bridge and keep action you wont get any action unless you got a nice fg running around. As I play my RM quite much in small groups etc and when in tower etc all you see is these carnival guys standing next to Oil waiting for a bold move from any alb/hib for some nice insta kills.

Please delete Warlocks from the game and then maybe I will forgive Mythic for releasing DAoC: "We give you new toys" Catacombs (my ass you do)

MVH: Madness

But but but but...... what about me

 

[-Freezingwiz-]

Maijj u seem to focus a lot on the ML9'd Templar pet ^^ but if it makes u happy there's only 1 or 2 up at a time. (yellow con that is)


xD

 

[majik]

instawin against a pure melee class... casters still obliterate a sorc with RR5 ability up. (e.g. a warlock, purge the mezz, chamber dump)

warlocks are instawin vs. everything...

not saying that sorcs are fine and dandy and balanced (tm) but there's far worse things at sea

Warlocks are overpowered because of poor game design and/or game testing. They are being fixed in 1.75 , then they will only be overpowered against mages as any ip tank or tank with high hps can kill them. However sorcerors are still going to be overpowered against tanks and they also have a good edge against casters that don't have nearsight.

If people are declaring warlocks to ruin solo/duo action, try playing a tank class against a sorceror, you will find the effect is exactly the same.

 

[majik]

Maijj u seem to focus a lot on the ML9'd Templar pet ^^ but if it makes u happy there's only 1 or 2 up at a time. (yellow con that is)


xD

Le cockatrice are gaymode also.

 

[Flimgoblin]

Warlocks are overpowered because of poor game design and/or game testing. They are being fixed in 1.75 , then they will only be overpowered against mages as any ip tank or tank with high hps can kill them. However sorcerors are still going to be overpowered against tanks and they also have a good edge against casters that don't have nearsight.

If people are declaring warlocks to ruin solo/duo action, try playing a tank class against a sorceror, you will find the effect is exactly the same.

nono, 1.75 they are only overpowered against the first person they see and possibly the second if the first was a caster.. or if they're pbaoeing

and then they're forced to cast spreadheals for no power instead... the horror...

I'd say post-1.75 warlocks are around sorcerer level of overpoweredness.

IMO nerf everything down to crossbow armsman level. Actually, no, then I'd not be able to play anything as nothing would be gimped

 

[Sollers]

Solo sorceres are horribly overpowered, even to such extend that I refuse to solo while they are. I've tried of course, but killing 5 stealthers and montarloo in one go made me feel ashamed of my class.

And the fact that they are incredibly OP and fotm is ofc displayed by the sorc lwrp list. It really hurts to see random skill-less noobs getting 200-300k a week simply because they won't die without taking at least 4k rps with them.

People that say sorcs arent OP (solo) are just blatently lying or too stupid to push 3 buttons

 

[Flimgoblin]

People that say sorcs arent OP (solo) are just blatently lying or too stupid to push 3 buttons

They are overpowered but not in every situation (unlike current warlocks) and deserve some form of nerf to their solo abilities - nerfing them in groups would be a bad idea though.

 

[majik]

nono, 1.75 they are only overpowered against the first person they see and possibly the second if the first was a caster.. or if they're pbaoeing

and then they're forced to cast spreadheals for no power instead... the horror...

I'd say post-1.75 warlocks are around sorcerer level of overpoweredness.

IMO nerf everything down to crossbow armsman level. Actually, no, then I'd not be able to play anything as nothing would be gimped

And if the first person they see is a high hp tank then they don't even get to kill that before any other caster and fyi most of the warlock action is not soloing, its leeching fights. Warlocks are not able to kill groups because as soon as they are stunned they die easily, they are overpowered on a 1vs1 or 1vs2 basis. Sorcerors are overpowered on a 1 vs (how many tanks can I kill before SoI drops) basis and as for casters, if bolt range mez doesnt give the sorc an advantage over them then I don't know what can, except nearsight.

 

[majik]

They are overpowered but not in every situation (unlike current warlocks) and deserve some form of nerf to their solo abilities - nerfing them in groups would be a bad idea though.

If a group of 3 tanks can't kill 1 warlock, even as they are now then it's the tanks fault not the warlock class.

 

[Platin]

Go figure, more sorc whine from mids with their bg pets-ubor pb, instant LT and now instant wtfpwnage buttons of godmode. Anyone else see the irony

Imo - nerf all casters except wizs!

 

[majik]

Go figure, more sorc whine from mids with their bg pets-ubor pb, instant LT and now instant wtfpwnage buttons of godmode. Anyone else see the irony

Imo - nerf all casters except wizs!

ubor pb, aye mate.

 

[Javai]

Anyone who played a Sorc before the level 50 life-tap can't help but feel that being a little OP now is god's reward for two years struggling without bolt-range mezz against Bards and Healers instants

The only good thing about Warlock atm is they are a quick way into monster form

 

[Flimgoblin]

ubor pb, aye mate.

pbaoe with an intercepting pet >> pbaoe without

though being able to stun someone then pbaoe them is nice too.

 

[Rushie]

Anyone who played a Sorc before the level 50 life-tap can't help but feel that being a little OP now is god's reward for two years struggling without bolt-range mezz against Bards and Healers instants

happy times!!!

 

[Dorin]

pbaoe with an intercepting pet >> pbaoe without

though being able to stun someone then pbaoe them is nice too.

or have useful ranged DDs or debuffs dds

 

[Glottis]

Sorc solo isn't "strong" or "very strong", it's instawin and there are no plans to nerf it.

Abortion on monkeys should be made mandatory to be honest.
Even a mentally retarded ant has a higher IQ than you
Next you are going to say a lvl 40 warlock is perfectly entitled to gank an rr5 ml9 moc3 sorc just cause the sorc can gank you...
Well, as horrible as it may sound, a BD can also gank a lot of solo players, or a nice uber buffed SM + pet....
Don't get a brain transplant, just end it Majik. Do not prolong your suffering, and the rest of the world.
Regards, Glottis

 

[Vodkafairy]

is that a deathwish?

 

[Shatar]

Abortion on monkeys should be made mandatory to be honest.
Even a mentally retarded ant has a higher IQ than you
Next you are going to say a lvl 40 warlock is perfectly entitled to gank an rr5 ml9 moc3 sorc just cause the sorc can gank you...
Well, as horrible as it may sound, a BD can also gank a lot of solo players, or a nice uber buffed SM + pet....
Don't get a brain transplant, just end it Majik. Do not prolong your suffering, and the rest of the world.
Regards, Glottis

your the absolute last person to be able to talk about someone else as retarded or low on IQ Glottis... uke:

 

[Iorlas]

No care... make Wiz overpowered just for 1 day would do me

 

[Flimgoblin]

or have useful ranged DDs or debuffs dds

hehehehahhahahah the debuff dd... hehahahhahah!

maybe just maybe post 1.75b it'll last long enough to be worth casting over the baseline if you're going to be nuking them for 30 seconds....

though actually re-reading that it says they have "useful ranged DD" or "debuff dd" which is true, the baseline is useful (and the debuff isn't)

 

[Marc]

If a group of 3 tanks can't kill 1 warlock, even as they are now then it's the tanks fault not the warlock class.

Doesnt this apply to sorcs too? If a sorc kills 3 tanks?