warlockzerg ruined all soloing/duoing?

[Alme]

Hi Mates!

 

[Sollers]

Damage output is too high compared to all the utility they have. Sorcs should have crappy offensive spells like DoTs and 3.0 second baseline DDs. Lifedrains are just too much.

That seems a bit silly coming from a SM

Not a particularly under-utilized class yourself imo

 

[Thorwyn]

Nerf everything until Armsmen are good again.

Then nerf Armsmen.

 

[Helme]

Who is this majik anyway?

Who is this Brylle anyway?

On a more serious note, both classes are overpowered you CAN'T argue that and they should both recieve a huge nerf, in damage for warlocks and in either utility or damage for sorcerors.

 

[majik]

You are missing some saliant points.

Yes, the sorceror is way overpowered and needs some adjustment. But in order to get to the OP state requires levelling to 50, doing MLs, doing artis and getting RR5.

The warlock involves getting to 50. Easy for any old fotm noob these days.

If, for warlocks to be at their current power, they required several months or more effort then there wouldn't be as much whine.

Warlocks have been nerfed and, according to a hastily pulled post on VN, more nerfs are inc. I have no doubt changes to sorcerors will come at some point aswell. In the meantime, players cannot roll a sorc and be overpowered by lunchtime the next day.

So if Aimstar had to get rr5 and ml9 to insta kill you, you wouldn't whine?

Excuse me if I don't believe you.

 

[majik]

Sorry but your argument is flawed. I understand you are saying the Warlock
is O/P and needs nerfing (we all know this). You are saying the Sorc is also
equally O/P - which is nonsense. The Sorc and Cabb are the High Util
casters of Albion, I notice you don't mention the ability to (baseline ffs!)
stun your opponent, debuff him and nuke him - which of course is perfectly
fair and just.

I'd really like you to explain (in game terms) how you would InstaWin if you
were playing a Sorc.

Sorry but you don't have the first clue about what I'm saying. I know a warlock is more overpowered than a sorceror and I also know the sorceror is now the 2nd most overpowered class in the game.

Warlocks get nerfed.
Sorcerors don't.

All I am trying to say is that there is no cause for whine.

Don't even try and tell me what I am trying to say. I have stated it very clearly multiple times and if you are too idle to read the replies then that is your own doing.

 

[Baldrian]

Only 2 things to say. Givf Nerf Kesa patch. Kesa is overpowered, nerf him.(not the class)

2. Give wizard some love. talk about no utility.

 

[majik]

Who is this majik anyway?

Very constructive.

 

[Helme]

Only 2 things to say. Givf Nerf Kesa patch. Kesa is overpowered, nerf him.(not the class)

2. Give wizard some love. talk about no utility.

Best way to nerf kesa is actually me respeccing away from darkcarver his damage aint so good without by debuffs ;p

 

[Aeoric]

I'd really like you to explain (in game terms) how you would InstaWin if you were playing a Sorc

stop skirting...

Your Is Where Money Your Mouth Put. <-- :touch:

 

[Skilgannon]

So if Aimstar had to get rr5 and ml9 to insta kill you, you wouldn't whine?

Excuse me if I don't believe you.

You are missing the point.

Yes, there would always be whines about insta-kill and quite rightly so. Insta-kill has no place in the game.

The point is that ToA and RR5 tends to slow the process and thin out the ranks. If the class doesn't need ToA and RR5 to be way OP then guess what...there will be shitloads of them. That is the point! If a handful were going around inst-killing then the impact wouldn't be as great. When there are countless noob warlocks insta-killing then the issue is magnified hugely.

It is the same old problem with OP classes. Everyone rolls one to wtfpwn and it gets into the spotlight of the nerfbat wielder very quickly. If, however, you needed to get the class through the period when it doesn't wtfpwn (unattractive idea to most mids I know) then you cut the numbers and the class gets away with it.

 

[majik]

The point is that ToA and RR5 tends to slow the process and thin out the ranks. If the class doesn't need ToA and RR5 to be way OP then guess what...there will be shitloads of them. That is the point! If a handful were going around inst-killing then the impact wouldn't be as great. When there are countless noob warlocks insta-killing then the issue is magnified hugely.

So because sorcerors need to be rr5 and ml9 to be able to kill 5 tanks at the same time, they shouldn't be nerfed? No they shouldn't they should nerf the rr5 and ml9 abilities so they aren't overpowered. Sorcerors as they stand are not a very overpowered class but once they attain ml9 and rr5 they are.

Warlocks are being nerfed because as soon as you get level 50 you can instantly kill people.

Sorcerors should get nerfed because as soon as they get rr5/ml9 they can farm x amount of tanks at the same time.

 

[majik]

stop skirting...

Your Is Where Money Your Mouth Put. <-- :touch:

I don't have time to reply atm I'm heading off to college so be as arrogant as you like fanboi. I shouldn't have to explain how a sorc is instawin to someone of your "extreme knowledge".

 

[Skilgannon]

So because sorcerors need to be rr5 and ml9 to be able to kill 5 tanks at the same time, they shouldn't be nerfed?

Of course Sorcerors need a nerf, I'm not disputing that. The fact is though that they are far less of a target for the nerfbat than warlocks simply because warlocks can be as bad or worse within /played 1 day of rolling a toon. That means there are more of them, which means more whine generated, which means nerfbat.

If sorcerors gained SOI and ML9 pet in a specline so that after 24 hours in AC being necro pld the sorc entered RvR at full power, then sorcerors would be a massive problem. Thing is, they don't, and so the 90% of Alb who are casual players are unlikely to ever have a RR5/ML9+ sorc. Hence the need for a nerf, in Mythic's eyes, isn't as strong.

 

[Baldrian]

So because sorcerors need to be rr5 and ml9 to be able to kill 5 tanks at the same time, they shouldn't be nerfed? No they shouldn't they should nerf the rr5 and ml9 abilities so they aren't overpowered. Sorcerors as they stand are not a very overpowered class but once they attain ml9 and rr5 they are.

Warlocks are being nerfed because as soon as you get level 50 you can instantly kill people.

Sorcerors should get nerfed because as soon as they get rr5/ml9 they can farm x amount of tanks at the same time.

Nerfing = Mythic time

Lots of Warlock killing everyone = Nerf or ppl leave.

Not so many sorc killing some if they have all their tools up = not so big a problem so ppl with stop playing over it = Not worth Nerfing.

Dont keep putting fairplay into it, it has nothing to do with that. DAOC is a business and it needs to earn money. End of story. Its not a Government sponsored club for bored youths, its a business.
This is what I think Mythic thinks, not what I think.

 

[Stunned]

A warlock in action ... thuper !

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[Platin]

Instant a sorc hits 50 he's OP, doesn't have to do ML or artis although they just make the character even more OP.

Yeah? Instant a hib roll a caster he's op!

 

[Platin]

So because sorcerors need to be rr5 and ml9 to be able to kill 5 tanks at the same time, they shouldn't be nerfed? No they shouldn't they should nerf the rr5 and ml9 abilities so they aren't overpowered. Sorcerors as they stand are not a very overpowered class but once they attain ml9 and rr5 they are.

Warlocks are being nerfed because as soon as you get level 50 you can instantly kill people.

Sorcerors should get nerfed because as soon as they get rr5/ml9 they can farm x amount of tanks at the same time.

Sorcs should get nerfed, but then again - so should SMs and BDs and they wont.

 

[majik]

Nerfing = Mythic time

Lots of Warlock killing everyone = Nerf or ppl leave.

Not so many sorc killing some if they have all their tools up = not so big a problem so ppl with stop playing over it = Not worth Nerfing.

Dont keep putting fairplay into it, it has nothing to do with that. DAOC is a business and it needs to earn money. End of story. Its not a Government sponsored club for bored youths, its a business.
This is what I think Mythic thinks, not what I think.

We whined about dragonfang for long enough and it got nerfed. So I'll keep on whining about sorcs until they get nerfed.

 

[majik]

Of course Sorcerors need a nerf, I'm not disputing that. The fact is though that they are far less of a target for the nerfbat than warlocks simply because warlocks can be as bad or worse within /played 1 day of rolling a toon. That means there are more of them, which means more whine generated, which means nerfbat.

If sorcerors gained SOI and ML9 pet in a specline so that after 24 hours in AC being necro pld the sorc entered RvR at full power, then sorcerors would be a massive problem. Thing is, they don't, and so the 90% of Alb who are casual players are unlikely to ever have a RR5/ML9+ sorc. Hence the need for a nerf, in Mythic's eyes, isn't as strong.

And I'm not disputing the fact that Warlocks need nerfing more than Sorcerors, but the fact that people from a realm where you can kill 4-5tanks at the same time if you put effort into a char are whining about a realm whos overpowered classes have been instantly nerfed getting a warlock is completely retarded.

 

[wittor]

We whined about dragonfang for long enough and it got nerfed.

ye and it was perfectly fine how it was it tbh

 

[dub]

1. wasnt much soloing to destroy , and duoing is only a small zerg to the soloer.

2. to most solo tankish fellas it wont matter if it bonejiggler , lavawizzie wahtlock or any other spellflinger , deads will mostly differ in grafix , cleaving of hairs to think that it matter what class name executioner has.

3. albs estimation of how long it takes to get ml 9 and lvl 50 and fully toa'ed is a clue to where a love patch is really needed.

4. give charge to savages

 

[Lethul]

1. wasnt much soloing to destroy , and duoing is only a small zerg to the soloer.

2. to most solo tankish fellas it wont matter if it bonejiggler , lavawizzie wahtlock or any other spellflinger , deads will mostly differ in grafix , cleaving of hairs to think that it matter what class name executioner has.

3. albs estimation of how long it takes to get ml 9 and lvl 50 and fully toa'ed is a clue to where a love patch is really needed.

4. give charge to savages

actually most casters are quite dead vs a wellplayed banelord/charge tank atleast. and i would say the majority of tanks are in that category atm

 

[Heheyougotboned]

there is some strong whine in this tread.

keep it coming.

 

[Xoxarle]

All mids who haven't already should roll warlocks, all hibs should roll vamps, and all albs can roll 'tics, then we can just have one great big battle of the flavour of the month

 

[Glottis]

Best way to nerf kesa is actually me respeccing away from darkcarver his damage aint so good without by debuffs ;p

Kesa still plays?
I thought he went skiing?
Regards, Glottis

 

[Bhalage]

Kesa still plays?
I thought he went skiing?
Regards, Glottis

yes, hes still playing

 

[Cozma]

whine whine whine whine whine...

 

[Marc]

I dont mind warlocks, especially the ones that pan behind too long

 

[Calo]

I dont mind warlocks, especially the ones that pan behind too long

*makes a macro to target always marc when my warlock meets synergy*