News War with Russia

[Wij]

Finland has a border with Russia and Russia threatened all kinds if Finland ever joined. Empty threats. Russia hasn't done anything.

If we can provide enough weapons for Ukraine to kick Russia out then Ukraine can join without a problem. Big if obviously.

 

[Scouse]

I think the "no NATO" ship has sailed for Russia. There's zero appetite to give Russia any of their objectives.

Yeah, but I bet we ain't got any appetite to pile in with our own tanks to protect Ukraine. We'll probably want a buffer.

 

[Scouse]

If we can provide enough weapons for Ukraine to kick Russia out then Ukraine can join without a problem. Big if obviously.

I hope we do. But I don't share your optimism.

I think, if this ends, nobody is going to feel good.

 

[Wij]

Yeah, but I bet we ain't got any appetite to pile in with our own tanks to protect Ukraine. We'll probably want a buffer.

You could say the same about Finland. And the Baltic states for that matter. But, when they are in NATO, Russia doesn't invade, so there's no need for a buffer. What country would you tell has to be a 'buffer' anyway? Kind of a shitty thing to do.

 

[Scouse]

What country would you tell has to be a 'buffer' anyway? Kind of a shitty thing to do.

Agree. But I bet we do the shitty thing.

Frankly, we're all about doing shitty things

 

[Wij]

Agree. But I bet we do the shitty thing.

Frankly, we're all about doing shitty things

It depends on who the US president is at the time. If it's a Democrat or a traditional Republican they would absolutely want Ukraine to join if Russia is no longer occupying. If it's Trump or some other Putin-strummer then they won't.

Obviously, kicking Russia out first is still a big if.

 

[Scouse]

Obviously, kicking Russia out first is still a big if.

Yep. But that's why I said I bet nobody wins here.

Russia get a bit of land, but not what they want. We don't want 'em to have anything but end up 'agreeing to disagree' (quiet aquiesance). Ukraine is fecked off and feels let down by it's allies.

 

[Embattle]

As said previously they should get nothing of Ukraine....no ifs, no buts and no coconuts.

 

[Scouse]

As said previously they should get nothing of Ukraine....no ifs, no buts and no coconuts.

Agree.

But I'm willing to put a quid on that they will.

 

[Wij]

How a Scottish legal loophole is being used to fuel the Russian war machine

Russians are using Scotland’s ‘ghost’ firms to import supplies that could aid Putin’s war machine, a major new probe has revealed.

www.heraldscotland.com

 

[Wij]

Freed medic: Russians raped girls as young as 14 in Ukraine prisons

Separate cells to rape young women, medieval torture instruments, and burning prisoners alive: after one year in captivity, a Ukrainian medic who treated torture victims details the horrors in Russian prisons

euromaidanpress.com