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Marc said:
Isnt there some anti putin russian politician that the west can start wheeling out on TV to try and get the message across to Putins inner circle? Or do I watch too many films?
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They are all either dead or in prison.
 
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Europe's Mars rover 'very unlikely' to launch in 2022

The UK-built Rosalind Franklin vehicle is caught up in the diplomatic crisis over Ukraine.
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I think both sides should let this slide. Science and scientific cooperation should be outside the realm of war. The scientists would certainly prefer it that way - always have done, and have always argued for it.

They don't give a shit what idiot politicians or nations get up to, they want to advance knowledge for all mankind.
 
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Scouse said:
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Europe's Mars rover 'very unlikely' to launch in 2022

The UK-built Rosalind Franklin vehicle is caught up in the diplomatic crisis over Ukraine.
www.bbc.co.uk

I think both sides should let this slide. Science and scientific cooperation should be outside the realm of war. The scientists would certainly prefer it that way - always have done, and have always argued for it.

They don't give a shit what idiot politicians or nations get up to, they want to advance knowledge for all mankind.
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What do Russia even bring to the space table any more?
 
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Gwadien said:
What do Russia even bring to the space table any more?
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A decent launch platform. There are others ofc, the French, the US etc, but it's probably too late in the day to just change.
 
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Gumbo said:
Each drone can carry 4 missiles, which with a lucky shot could take out 2 vehicles each. They have limited drones and limited missiles. You have to assume that at some point soon the Russians will mount a defence of it's supply chains.

A 40 mile convoy is a very long line to defend from hunter killer squads armed with Javelin, NLAW and other man portable anti armour weapons. A 40 mile convoy in the middle of nowhere is just a big long line of vehicles as well. Those in the convoy will need feeding and the convoy will need fuelling. It also won't be moving fast. By the time that the first couple of miles of tracked vehicles has gone past the roads will be beginning to get torn up, after 5 miles of vehicles it'll be a swamp.
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I'd imagine that if this is Russia's biggest convoy it would have some defence against drone strikes. Small units equipped with anti-tank weapons though taking out a few units could easily block the road for hours and be repeated again and again. Although I wouldn't want to be the guys doing it :/
 
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I question if the convoy is a decoy or something.

I find it weird that they'd do this in full sight of the world.

Has anyone checked on Dover!?!?!?
 
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Scouse said:
How are you supposed to hide from sattelites? It's not Brosnan-era James Bond :)
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Which is why i'd expect them to drive up in a huge convoy, park them up, go steal local cars then come in from a different direction dressed as civilians.

They are Russian after all.
 
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It's pretty crazy to think that Ukranians are using bunkers that were built to protect them against American attacks..
 
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I mean... Bin Laden funded it all didn't he?

Seems like Doublethink.
 
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Aoami said:
I mean... Bin Laden funded it all didn't he?

Seems like Doublethink.
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Lots of countries funded the Mujahideen...

I think it's a bit of 20/20 hindsight tbh... You could easily present the theory that Ukraine could have a Nazi/nationalist/wedon'tlikethatformofgovernment coup, because you know, being invaded kinda boosts your patriotism and militarism and suddenly we've got a country on our hands that is well armed, but doesn't care for either the West or Russia...

The problem in my opinion wasn't funding the Mujahideen, it was the emotional response of invasion post 9/11.
 
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Aoami said:
I mean... Bin Laden funded it all didn't he?

Seems like Doublethink.
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At the time "anti-Communist" was far more important to the Americans in particular than "pro-Islamic"; in fact, to lots of Americans of the fundie Christian variety, being religiously devout, even if it was Islam rather than Jee..Sus was a massive positive. Charlie Wilson's War is a great movie (and book) that shows this in action.

But at the same time, do you know who was supplying far more weapons to the Mujahedeen and far earlier than the Americans? The Chinese. The Soviet Union's fellow travellers. Motivations in wars come from all kinds of directions than simple left/right or religious difference.
 
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Still paying the gas bills.

We don't really give a shit.
 
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Aoami said:
As she said, war is already there.
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Let's be honest here, if WW3 was to kick off from this, Russia would want to make extremely quick work of Ukraine, which would be infinitely more terrible than what's going on right now.
 
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If WW3 kicked off, they'd have much more to worry about than Ukraine.
 
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It was heartbreaking to watch but Blobby was correct in this instant especially as Putin is apparenrly pissed with Truss…. Btw someone needs to tell Blobby to stand further from his mic
 
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caLLous said:
If WW3 kicked off, they'd have much more to worry about than Ukraine.
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That's exactly what I'm saying, if the gloves truly came off, they'd make very quick work of them to focus on more pressing issues.
 
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Noise.

They'd definitely turn our gas off before nuking us.
 
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Unless they wanted to add to the explosion? :eek6:
 
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