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Now boot Chelsea out of the football league.
I don't think that's fair on the fans. We should pass a law that allows it to be seized by the government.
 

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I don't think that's fair on the fans. We should pass a law that allows it to be seized by the government.

Imagine how many corporate tickets the Government could give to say... the Saudis? :D
 

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The EU aren't going to turn the Nordstream 1 tap off, they would all be cold.

Morally they should, but they won't.

All they have done is "paused" Nordstream 2, they won't cancel it and dismantle it, because Germany are balls deep in fossil fuel.
"we" ?

We don't get much gas or anything (except for the money swilling around London) from Russia.
Less than 5%


Edit, sure, it will drive prices up, but we don't need to cut it off. Meanwhile, in the EU, they are literally still sending money Russia's way...business as usual.
Won't happen with Germany in charge.
It's not happening at all, up until a few days ago Nordsteam 2 was a thing...and technically still is after we get all this awkwardness out the way.
If the EU/Germany meant it, they would be moving in the diggers to remove it all.

As it stands, it's just on pause, once Russia consolidates it will be business as usual. Not that we have anything to crow about, it won't make any difference to dirty Russian money in London, the Tories will make sure of that.


Yes, we already know that.


Just thought I'd balance things out you know.

I mean, looking at all these responses, it seems like Germany is leading the EU to invade Ukraine :p
 

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I don't recall Job having pro Russian sentiments?
Trump likes Putin, Job likes Trump.

For info, the QAnons are currently celebrating Putin smashing the deep-state pedophiles in Ukraine.
 

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Trump likes Putin, Job likes Trump.

For info, the QAnons are currently celebrating Putin smashing the deep-state pedophiles in Ukraine.
And Job likes Farage and Farage is positively touching himself over the events of the last few days.

Funny story though, his account has been suspended on reddit. Not really surprising given the nonsense you can imagine he spewed on there but he must've really gone off the rails to get kicked off the entire site.
 

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And Job likes Farage and Farage is positively touching himself over the events of the last few days.

Funny story though, his account has been suspended on reddit. Not really surprising given the nonsense you can imagine he spewed on there but he must've really gone off the rails to get kicked off the entire site.

Job or Farage? :p
 

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Latest update from the missus; all the Ukranians just think we've thrown them under the bus and apparently the only sanction that will hurt the Russians is the Swift ban and why haven't we done it yet?
 

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Latest update from the missus; all the Ukranians just think we've thrown them under the bus and apparently the only sanction that will hurt the Russians is the Swift ban and why haven't we done it yet?

I mean, do we really expect Putin to turn his forces around to anything that we do, bar military intervention?
 

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Friend of friend is ukrainian, in Odessa. Streets smell of gunpowder, his hands are swollen. Govt distributed automatic weapons to civilians, he's been drafted and assigned a post. 47 yrs old.

Russians have retreated from the city limits.

Edit: Russians had entered the city yesterday evening, but the attack was repelled, and they were driven out. Not many civilian casualties, actually very few.
 
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Just thought I'd balance things out you know.

I mean, looking at all these responses, it seems like Germany is leading the EU to invade Ukraine :p

What are you on about now? Yes, Germany will block the EU from doing anything serious, yes the reason for that is because the German political system is balls deep into Russia and if we do cut Russia off, the Germans will have to put a jumper on.

Yes, the reason we won't do much is because, Tories.

Both have been talked about extensively, using one to deflect from the other is pointless (You are the only one attempting to do that)
 

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Guns being handed out to Civilians in Kiev now.
 

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Would let 'em come in.

They can't beat Russia anyway. No point in massive civilian death. Just hand it over and peacefully non-cooperate.

Of course, arming the civilian population IS the way to protect yourself from oppressive government. But just lets gloss over that when it comes to the USA eh? ;)
 

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Friend of friend is ukrainian, in Odessa. Streets smell of gunpowder, his hands are swollen. Govt distributed automatic weapons to civilians, he's been drafted and assigned a post. 47 yrs old.

Russians have retreated from the city limits.

Edit: Russians had entered the city yesterday evening, but the attack was repelled, and they were driven out. Not many civilian casualties, actually very few.
Odessa's not far from Romania isn't it? Next to Moldova.
 

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They can't beat Russia anyway. No point in massive civilian death. Just hand it over and peacefully non-cooperate.
That isn't working well in Russia-supported dictatorships where the population wants rid of them such as Belarus and Kazakhstan.
 

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What are you on about now? Yes, Germany will block the EU from doing anything serious,

They don't have to because for any sanctions to actually be effective they must be so severe on Russia that we suffer from them as well. And are we prepared to do that? No of course not. And Putin knows it.
 

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Would let 'em come in.

They can't beat Russia anyway. No point in massive civilian death. Just hand it over and peacefully non-cooperate.

Of course, arming the civilian population IS the way to protect yourself from oppressive government. But just lets gloss over that when it comes to the USA eh? ;)

At this point, I agree. Civilians with AKs vs Russians with light armour.
 

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A good exposee, I think.
 

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Haven't been on for a bit, 8 months or something. Has job finally been banned then?
 

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