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Scouse

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Yeah. I don't think we can shoot shit down that's in space either.
 

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Stupid North Koreans and their choosing to only believe state media in their intellectually-enlightened-and-consequence-free environment eh?

They're surrounded by broadcasts from more open countries. They speak to people who cross the borders. They know what the situation is, they just don't have the power to do anything about it.
 

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Looks like were not backing the US this time outside of joining in the spy flights.
 

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If the North Korean people are stupid enough to believe their comic leader that they are a world power and all great and fantastic etc, all the while the gap between a bowl of gruel gets longer and longer then fuck'um, frankly.

Only a people can change their leadership, one way or another.
I've watched a lot of NK official video and the sneaked out stuff...I would say overall living conditions are no different from most modern countries, a sort of poor mans Singapore..but a 100 times more authoritarian.
They have poverty..but so does the States.

This tourist video is obviously highly censored and staged..but it is shot outdoors and you can see..ordinary..but with menace hidden below.

My Daily Life In NORTH KOREA (MYSTERIOUS 7 DAY TR…:
View: http://youtu.be/uMoSyk0rK9s
 
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They're surrounded by broadcasts from more open countries. They speak to people who cross the borders. They know what the situation is, they just don't have the power to do anything about it.
Sort of with you there but factor in the uncertainty - that they're educated from a young age about non-state media, the secret police, the fact that there'll be enough of them fully sold on the goodness and rightness of their country.

They *could* do something about it - a popular uprising would be costly but it would work - but there's not enough of them to have a popular uprising. It would be distinctly un-popular. Or at least not wholeheartedly supported with abandon.

I don't doubt there are many that absolutely love life there too...
 

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I've watched a lot of NK official video and the sneaked out stuff...I would say overall living conditions are no different from most modern countries, a sort of poor mans Singapore..but a 100 times more authoritarian.
They have poverty..but so does the States.

This tourist video is obviously highly censored and staged..but it is shot outdoors and you can see..ordinary..but with menace hidden below.

My Daily Life In NORTH KOREA (MYSTERIOUS 7 DAY TR…:
View: http://youtu.be/uMoSyk0rK9s


GDP per cap in NK is about the same as Zimbabwe, and unlike Zimbabwe they're spending what they have on missiles. Problem with all visits to NK is that all you see is a giant Potemkin Village; people are starving every winter in the countryside, but no sanctioned visitor ever sees that.
 

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Oh yeah..the sneaked out stuff shows the real NK..but that video is the real city...and the range of living conditions in others doesnt seem that vastly different from other poor countries, of course sanctions are the actual cause.

Well put it this way..its not as bad as India.
 
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They're surrounded by broadcasts from more open countries. They speak to people who cross the borders. They know what the situation is, they just don't have the balls to do anything about it.

Fixed
 

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Oh, so it's just a country full of cowards now eh?

Some special cowardly breed of humans, rather than humans that act like all other humans would act given the same set of circumstances?
 

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I think youll find theres a lot of people who would like to live in a country under practically military rule.
 

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Oh, so it's just a country full of cowards now eh?

Some special cowardly breed of humans, rather than humans that act like all other humans would act given the same set of circumstances?

Why are you bringing race into it? Do you have a problem with race?

"Breeds"? Its the 21st century man.
 

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Why are you bringing race into it? Do you have a problem with race?

"Breeds"? Its the 21st century man.
My point was very clear - you called them cowards, my position is that they're acting like *any* group of humans would given the same set of circumstances.

So one of is is right - either they're cowards - which discounts them being like all other humans (unless you say all humans are cowards?) or they're not cowards and just an abused, terrorised people.

Which is it?
 

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Both, they are a defeated people. Where that has happened before, revolution occurs.

I still don't understand your hang-up with their race though, why are you suggesting they are "different" ?
 

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Can't be both.

My "discussion" with you on this ends here - anything else would be nonsense. Don't know whether it's wilful miscomprehension of my argument or what, but it's obvious where this is going...
 

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Good idea, however, I have absolutely no idea why you would bring race into and then backtrack.

Nobody here has been discussing the North Koreans as a race or "breed" as you put it.
 

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Good idea, however, I have absolutely no idea why you would bring race into and then backtrack.

Nobody here has been discussing the North Koreans as a race or "breed" as you put it.

Your lack of reading comprehension is almost as astounding as Jobs's sometimes.

He did not use the word "breed" in the context in which you think he did.

Read it again, then think about his argument in proper context.

Or... don't.., which is what normally happens around here.

Meh.
 

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Your lack of reading comprehension is almost as astounding as Jobs's sometimes.

He did not use the word "breed" in the context in which you think he did.

Read it again, then think about his argument in proper context.

Or... don't.., which is what normally happens around here.

Meh.

I know exactly what context he meant. I am playing with the idiot. He brought race into it, race hadn't even been mentioned, implied or otherwise. He was attempting to suggest others are racist, which is what closet racists tend to do, kind of like those weirdos in the church who scream about homosexuality because they are obsessed with it.

Now shuffle back off again, thanks
 
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I know exactly what context he meant. I am playing with the idiot. He brought race into it, race hadn't even been mentioned, implied or otherwise. He was attempting to suggest others are racist, which is what closet racists tend to do, kind of like those weirdos in the church who scream about homosexuality because they are obsessed with it.

Now shuffle back off again, thanks

He absolutely did NOT bring "race" into it at all.

You are simply not grasping the context and framing of the word "breed" in that sentence.

The fact you still think he did despite being told to go back and re read what he said proves how dense you are.

Welcome to ignore along side Job.
 

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I have read it over and over again and still cant figure out where he brings race into it

Oh, so it's just a country full of cowards now eh?

Some special cowardly breed of humans, rather than humans that act like all other humans would act given the same set of circumstances?

Everyone's' browser is working, yeah?
 

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Heres an excerpt from a book that has nothing to do with race

The fathers of daughters are a special breed of men.

They see women differently, they see the world for them differently, and that causes them to live differently.

The phrase you highlighted is commonly used, and very rarely in a racist way
 

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Everyone's' browser is working, yeah?
Yep. Your brain is not. It clearly can't grasp context. At all.

If I write the word nigger in this sentence, am I being racist?
 

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Heres an excerpt from a book that has nothing to do with race



The phrase you highlighted is commonly used, and very rarely in a racist way

Um. Using the word breed when refering to a group of asians is quite clearly racist.
 

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There you go Scouse, that's what it's like when people see racism everywhere.
 

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And...go get my post where I have been racist.
 

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