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Well, you know when you say something, and everyone says "that's racist" (apart from @Raven, who apparently still doesn't know what racism is)... well, that post was most likely racist.

The most obvious example I can think of would be your little crusade against Sadiq Khan, based on nothing more than the colour of his skin and your hatred of Muslims.
 

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I know that referring to different races as "breeds" is pretty much racist. More so when used in a weak attempt to imply someone else is being racist.

Not that I actually care what you think, I mean, look at yourself :)

You're natural go-to is to imply racism, even when you are attempting to debate Brexit.
 

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Raven is trying to be that edgy alt-right guy who is exaggerating to make a point.

Quite pathetic really.
 

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This is why I miss Throd, Job chats shit and just continues without defending his arguments, Raven just becomes sarcastic and boring very quickly whereas Throd actually stuck to his guns and argued his point of view.
 

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Well, you know when you say something, and everyone says "that's racist" (apart from @Raven, who apparently still doesn't know what racism is)... well, that post was most likely racist.

The most obvious example I can think of would be your little crusade against Sadiq Khan, based on nothing more than the colour of his skin and your hatred of Muslims.
So you have to make up what you presume I think to say Im racist.
Still waiting for this racist post.
In reality all those calling me racist are giving away their own inner turmoil at the little hitlers on their shoulders whispering in their ears.
 

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Raven is trying to be that edgy alt-right guy who is exaggerating to make a point.

Quite pathetic really.

Exaggeration would be when you spend your spare time searching for things to pretend to be offended by, sharing them and getting miserable when nobody gives a shit. Just so you can appear to be a new-age liberal. You know the kind, comfy up bringing, reasonably wealthy, does fuck all to help anyone worse off than themselves.

There is a lot of "talk" round here from people bleating on about shit and nobody is backing it up with actions. If you care about something, do something, sat on your arse ain't going to change anything.
 
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Mostly by people either too idle or who don't actually give a shit about what they are telling others to do.
 

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Exaggeration would be when you spend your spare time searching for things to pretend to be offended by, sharing them and getting miserable when nobody gives a shit. Just so you can appear to be a new-age liberal. You know the kind, comfy up bringing, reasonably wealthy, does fuck all to help anyone worse off than themselves.

There is a lot of "talk" round here from people bleating on about shit and nobody is backing it up with actions. If you care about something, do something, sat on your arse ain't going to change anything.


A. I don't search, whilst talking to my friends on Facebook, articles pop up, so yeah, trawling through the internet isn't my kind of thing. How do you find your articles that you're offended at because people aren't living their lives in the way that you think they should be? :)

B. Comfy & wealthy upbringing? My dad was made redundant 3 times throughout my life, we've been extremely fortunate in the past few years that the tides have changed, so in reality you have actual no idea.

C. Does fuck all to help anyone worse off than themselves? Sacrificed the chance to inherit a business worth a couple of million with numerous high business links which would make my life very easy and very wealthy for a career that is well-known to be over worked and under paid. In my second placement (which is what about 4 months?) I spent about 20 hours or so sitting with a very poor group of kids who had been assigned to do some extra work with me talking to them about career prospects because everyone else in the school had more or less given up on them and the kids didn't like them or respect them. So I helped them, found out what they wanted to do and found college courses. I didn't have to do this, this was in my spare time aside from the academic work that they had to do, but I did it anyway.

So tell me, what have you done apart from sitting on Freddyshouse at work telling people that you came from a poor background but you worked very hard and you are still working very hard to get to where have got to?
 

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So tell me, what have you done apart from sitting on Freddyshouse at work telling people that you came from a poor background but you worked very hard and you are still working very hard to get to where have got to?

Nothing, except donate to a food bank...but why should I? All I have said is live your life how you preach to others. So if you are constantly bleating woe is the poor, think of the brown people blah blah, then help them, do something, sharing facebook crap is not doing anything, despite how much you think it is. And fuck off with your hard up nonsense, some people skip dinners to feed their kids, you have no idea what it means to be poor.

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lol, I googled Steve Bannon last night

Yeah.

Very little on the internet "offends" me, it probably doesn't really offend you but for some reason you think you ought to be offended. Like that pair of fat lazy fucks that got upset someone didn't want to house them, which somehow upset you too.
 
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Where is anyone telling you what to do?

Nowhere, directly but see above. If you think people shouldn't avoid tax, or care about the poor or whatever, 2 examples, then don't avoid tax and do something yourself to help people, instead of doing the complete opposite.
 

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Very little on the internet "offends" me, it probably doesn't really offend you but for some reason you think you ought to be offended. Like that pair of fat lazy fucks that got upset someone didn't want to house them, which somehow upset you too.

I literally googled Steve Bannon after I read a news article, and then I found that other article, because I was interested, no other reason.

The fat lazy fucks who both have diagnosed mental illnesses?

I mean, you're dangerous not in a omg why you so offended bullshit but in a deserving and undeserving Victorian attitude, so draconian.
 

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Firstly, one had depression the other had an undiagnosed "bit of a bad back"

Both look like they eat like kings though so it can't be too tough for them.

It's not a draconian, Victorian attitude, quite the opposite. Everyone is given the opportunity to drag themselves up, there are few excuse for not doing so. I have zero sympathy for idle people, they are a cancer on our society.
 

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Firstly, one had depression the other had an undiagnosed "bit of a bad back"

Both look like they eat like kings though so it can't be too tough for them.

It's not a draconian, Victorian attitude, quite the opposite. Everyone is given the opportunity to drag themselves up, there are few excuse for not doing so. I have zero sympathy for idle people, they are a cancer on our society.

Jesus
 

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Yes there are loads of lazy fuks, but the system doesn't help them at all, by giving them their every whim for nothing hardly inspires motivation, especially when going to work makes you worse off, financially, physically and in the beginning mentally.

The typical doleite I visit has an iphone, laptop, 50 inch TV screen, Xbox, fridge full of Lidl food.
I NEVER see any kind of poverty, they are fat, and know every trick in the book to keep the cash coming in.
I know that's a lot of stereotypes, but that's exactly how it is.
The houses are shitholes, the kids rooms full to the brim with toys, always got those 'arty' black and white 200 quid photos of the family in 3 split sections on the wall, hacked cable box, trampoline in the back garden, rusty barbecue and overgrown garden.

Why the fuck would they bother to get a job, get up everyday for minimum wage, childcare, bus pass, getting shit off the boss, having to look presentable.
All that for less money and when you get a job you instantly become public enemy number one, get a fine..they cripple you, get a fine, don't make repayments, do a shit in the road while you're on the dole and it's ..so fucking what.
You'd be the idiot in the road with a job, paying someone else to look after your kids, tramping home at night in the rain, missing out on the parties.
What a life really.
 

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What a life
If you can say "what a life", rather than "what an abhorrent existence" to that then you may have hit the nail on the head why politicians from rich families don't understand how to motivate people.

If all that can be realistically aspired to is a telly, xbox, kids toys and then not working any more then that's a problem for a shedload of people.
 

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That speech by Trump...the thousand yard stare and robotic voice...not sure if hes just terrible at reading autocue or he was giving it the...'they made me say this'.
 

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Oh yeah..the sneaked out stuff shows the real NK..but that video is the real city...and the range of living conditions in others doesnt seem that vastly different from other poor countries, of course sanctions are the actual cause.

Well put it this way..its not as bad as India.
North Korea is a country-sized concentration camp. Comparing it favourably to India is insulting in the extreme.
 

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Not defending Trump in any way shape or form.

However, he is right that no violence is acceptable, from what I can tell both the KKK fuckwits and the social justice league power ranger fuckwits have been using violence.

So when he says there is no place for violence, he is quite correct.

Whether or not he condemns the racists for being shits is a different matter entirely.
 

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Buuuuut. He hasn't actually defended anyone.

And now people are getting whined at for not condemning someone for something they didn't do.

"The papers" are basically just parroting what the tedious vapour chambers are moaning about in the dreadful twattersphere. Barking mad.

I guess it sells more advertising though, somehow.
 

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Its rather obvious that anyone associated with Nazis or white supremacists is going.to be the baddy and anyone calling themselves....whatever against racism is going to be the goodie...its very easy to pick a side, but at that point reason and truth takes a dive.
There are loonies on both sides and the political history and reality of the desire for pure races goes back a long way..is found in every corner of the world and is a far far bigger problem that some toothless nazis with torches.
Trump is right to blame both sides, a rally to object to a statue not being torn down because its not PC now is legitimate, the ensuing violence was cooking allready.
The real problem is the left crush debate..so people stay quiet...and fester...then the people who will let them voice their fears become their friends...and it begins.
Alt-right in Germany now 10%.vote....thats not skinheads and loners..its ordinary people.
 

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Well the racists are twats. That isnt open to debate. They are however perfectly entitled to the hold that opinion and voice that opinion under the American constitution.

You can't silence people because they happen to hold a different opinion, no matter how dumb it is. If you try then you are just as abhorrent as they are.
 

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